#pypy on 2019-12-09 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2019-08-29 19:33 cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin

00:05 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7864 [default]

00:08 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-32/builds/5581 [default]

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00:29 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6645 [default]

00:35 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/4754 [default]

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01:10 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/rpython-win-x86-32/builds/217 [mattip: force build, release-pypy3.6-v7.x]

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02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-32/builds/5582 [py3.6]

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02:53 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-aarch64/builds/223 [mattip: force build, release-pypy3.6-v7.x]

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03:07 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/6803 [py3.6]

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04:35 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6646 [py3.6]

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04:45 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7865 [py3.6]

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06:31 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-aarch64/builds/222 [mattip: force build, release-pypy3.6-v7.x]

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07:22 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2194 [mattip: force build, release-pypy3.6-v7.x]

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07:29 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-aarch64/builds/224 [default]

07:29 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-aarch64/builds/225 [py3.6]

07:49 <arigato> https://bugs.python.org/issue38091 "Import deadlock detection causes deadlock"

07:49 <arigato> in other words, recent CPythons can just deadlock randomly if you run multiple threads

07:50 <arigato> it looks like recent CPythons are *entirely unusable*, to me

07:52 <arigato> given that this bug report has attracked 0 reactions in the 3 months since it was filed, as opposed to a flurry of urgent fixes, I think I am justified in not recommending recent CPythons at all to anyone serious

07:53 <ammar2> but it's also gotten 0 "me too" comments

07:53 <ammar2> so not many people actually experiencing it in the wild?

07:54 <arigato> well, if in wild I'm getting a random deadlock, I won't know that it happens to be the import deadlock detection and I won't find this bug report

07:55 <arigato> I would rather first suspect it's a deadlock in my own code, before looking for this code

07:57 <ammar2> true

08:27 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2797

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08:58 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5003 [default]

08:58 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5004 [py3.6]

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09:47 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2195 [default]

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10:43 <mattip> aksing again: does anyone have anything important on bencher4?

10:43 <mattip> My attempt to update the machine from debain 7 to 10 was unsucessful, and the conclusion is to give us a different machine

10:49 <cfbolz> not me

10:49 <arigato> not me either

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11:03 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-aarch64/builds/223 [default]

11:03 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-aarch64/builds/224 [py3.6]

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12:26 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-s390x/builds/1197 [mattip: force build, release-pypy3.6-v7.x]

12:26 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-s390x/builds/1198 [default]

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13:22 <kenaan> arigo py3.6 1a1d7d250c82 /lib-python/3/: Issue #3111 Back-port the tentative bpo-38091 from cpython: Import deadlock detection causes deadlock

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13:46 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-aarch64/builds/225 [py3.6]

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14:45 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5004 [py3.6]

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16:10 <kenaan> Stian Andreassen py3.7-tracemalloc c31bb71da53e /pypy/module/cpyext/: Expose tracemalloc C API

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17:28 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-aarch64/builds/224 [py3.6]

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20:50 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6647 [ronan: force build, py3.6-exc-info-2]

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22:26 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6647 [ronan: force build, py3.6-exc-info-2]

23:30 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7866 [ronan: force build, py3.6-exc-info-2]

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