#pypy on 2019-07-18 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2018-11-25 07:18 arigato changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | mac OS and Fedora are not Windows

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01:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/4717 [py3.6]

01:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/6542 [py3.6]

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01:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/4492 [py3.6]

01:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6319 [py3.6]

01:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7569 [py3.6]

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02:06 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-32/builds/5320 [py3.6]

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02:28 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6319 [py3.6]

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03:39 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/6542 [py3.6]

04:02 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7569 [py3.6]

04:03 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/4492 [py3.6]

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05:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2659

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06:44 <the_drow> Is there a reason why on PyPy we get a different order for a list when on every CPython version tested we get the same order? https://travis-ci.org/networkx/networkx/jobs/559857687#L4310

06:56 <cfbolz> the_drow: could be a bug, could you pastebin the relevant parts of the log? It's a bit too huge for me

06:57 <cfbolz> the_drow: could it be set ordering?

06:58 <cfbolz> Now that CPython switched to the same insertion order that PyPy has been using for a while for dicts, sets are one of the big sources of ordering differences

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06:59 <the_drow> cfbolz, Sure I can.

06:59 <the_drow> This is a list and not a set. The ordering should be the same

07:00 <cfbolz> OK, but how is the list constructed

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07:00 <the_drow> http://dpaste.com/0RT1MDE

07:00 <the_drow> Yes, it's using a set internally

07:01 <cfbolz> Then it's likely that

07:01 <cfbolz> list(some set) in pypy gives the elements in insertion order, on CPython it depends on the hash of the elements

07:01 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/4717 [py3.6]

07:02 <the_drow> https://github.com/networkx/networkx/blob/master/networkx/algorithms/chordal.py#L144

07:03 <cfbolz> the_drow: note that it's a dangerous test in general. The order of a set is not defined in python, and other implementations (or later versions of CPython) could redefine it at any point

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07:07 <the_drow> Yes however it's a doctest that clearly conveys to the users what the results look like

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07:11 <the_drow> If we avoid converting the result to a list everything should be fine right?

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07:16 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2659

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07:31 <the_drow> cfbolz, Funny I get a test failure because the output is not exactly the same even though both outputs are sets...

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10:21 <nimaje> iirc, doctest uses the string representation to compare stuff, so you should use sorted() to have definded ordering, the_drow

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