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<bbot2> Exception: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7195 [ronan: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<kenaan> rlamy unicode-utf8-py3 316992f1c55d /pypy/module/_sre/interp_sre.py: fix translation
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/5922 [ronan: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7196 [ronan: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<bbot2> Retry: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/5922 [ronan: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Retry: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7196 [ronan: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<kenaan> cfbolz extradoc 57a845f89133 /sprintinfo/ddorf2019/people.txt: Tim is coming to the Düsseldorf sprint
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<kenaan> cfbolz extradoc 36e6157b5dac /sprintinfo/ddorf2019/people.txt: Add Łukas and Maciek to ddorf sprint
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<fijal> cfbolz: łukasz
<fijal> I see it's just a commit message typo though
<cfbolz> Damn sorry
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<cfbolz> Was so happy with my Ł ;-)
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<kenaan> fijal extradoc c65a069376b9 /sprintinfo/ddorf2019/people.txt: matti is staying with us
<fijal> cfbolz: OS X has a cool feature where pressing L for a second gives you options
<fijal> *except* it does not do ą and ę that way
<cfbolz> All this stuff is just easy on the phone
<fijal> yeah shows phones came later
<fijal> it's really nearly there on OS X
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<mattip> ronan: I updated the gist for the fix to unicode-utf8-py3, much better now
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<ronan> mattip: good! There's still some bad slowdowns though, I'll investigate chameleon
<mattip> great. That will bring us pretty much to baseline py3.5, it would be nice to reduce the slowdowns to default
<mattip> they appear in the second half of the gist
<mattip> telco seems particularily bad
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<ronan> mattip: soooo it turns out that the main function becomes twice slower when defined with exec() than when it's imported??!?
<ronan> (the slowdown also exists on py3.5 but is much smaller)
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<ronan> mattip: here's my results so far: https://gist.github.com/rlamy/392931b55183fbb86587f982990e74d3
<ronan> I'm guessing it's something to do with dict strategies...
<cfbolz> yes, dict strategies are a very likely culprit
<kenaan> arigo extradoc 3fbf4e3aa39c /sprintinfo/ddorf2019/people.txt: add myself
<cfbolz> ronan: well, what is the speed difference between exec and import on py2? I suspect exec is also much slower on py2 than import
<cfbolz> ronan: one interesting thing to try: could you add a "print(__pypy__.strategy({}))" at the end of bm_chameleon.py?
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<ronan> cfbolz: it says EmptyDictStrategy, as expected
<cfbolz> Argh, sorry, I meant of env
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<cfbolz> ronan: ^^
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<ronan> cfbolz: UnicodeDictStrategy
<cfbolz> OK, good
<cfbolz> That's something at least
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