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<kenaan> wlav default b505aee6a14e /pypy/: Upgrade to backend 1.1.0, improved handling of templated methods and functions (in particular automatic deduction of...
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<kenaan> Matti Picus unicode-utf8-py3 3f63d5b725cc /: merge unicode-utf8 into branch, probably many mistakes in merge
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<kenaan> Matti Picus unicode-utf8-py3 40650baa7fd6 /pypy/: fix imports. Tests start to run. str_decode_utf8 replaces decode_utf8 but args have changed
<kenaan> Matti Picus unicode-utf8 daeb185c5482 /: merge default into branch
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<mattip> hi
<mattip> took a step toward merging unicode-utf8 and py3.5
<mattip> anyone know what replaces unicodehelper.decode_utf8(self, s, allow_surrogates=True) in the odl code? There is now
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<mattip> unicode.str_decode_utf8(s, errors, final, errorhandler), what should errors, final, errorhandler be ?
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<fijal> mattip_: hi matti
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<mattip> fijal: hi
<fijal> how's going?
<mattip> good
<mattip> trying to make progress with unicode-utf8
<fijal> and?
<fijal> can I help somehow?
<mattip> maybe. Why did decode_utf8 change so drastically, it now has errors, final, errorhandler and no default
<mattip> I understand that allow_surogates is usually False but sometimes True
<mattip> it now is called str_decode_utf8 AFAICT
<fijal> mostly because it's a rather niche call
<fijal> typically you don't do it - you call check_utf8 and you're good
<fijal> it's only ever called if we have some error handler or something
<mattip> so what should space.newtext look like? It should return a W_Unicode on py3.5, no?
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<mattip> ahh, maybe W_Unicode(s)
<fijal> yes, W_Unicode(s)
<mattip> that requires a length argument
<fijal> yes, you get it from check_utf8
<fijal> which you should have called anyway
<mattip> ok
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<mattip> thanks, that helps
<fijal> I mean
<fijal> depending on the setup you either know something (like it's ascii) or you know the length
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<mattip> what about when I have u, type(u) == W_Unicode and try to do space.text_w(u), should that become space.utf8_w(u)?
<mattip> there are places that do if space.is_w(space.type(u), space.w_text): s = space.text_w(u)
<mattip> it looks wrong to do if space.is_w(space.type(u), space.w_text): s = space.utf8_w(u)
<mattip> ahh, nvrmind, I should fix that in interpreter/baseobjspace.py
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<mattip> fijal: for interned strings (see interpreter.baseobjspace.ObjSpace.new_interned_{,w_}str, on py3.5)
<mattip> should the key be a python unicode str or utf8 bytes
<mattip> currently it is unicode, that seems like it should change now
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