#pypy on 2017-09-26 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2017-09-12 15:07 cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/pypy/ ) | use cffi for calling C | "nothing compares to the timeshifter, my personal polar expedition in software" - pedronis

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03:48 <bbot2> Retry: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/3300 [py3.5]

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04:56 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-s390x/builds/714 [default]

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06:41 <kenaan> arigo py3.5 8b9aafe3487b /pypy/module/cpyext/: PyUnicode_Substring()

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06:47 <kenaan> arigo py3.5 d350c77746fc /pypy/module/cpyext/: PyLong_FromUnicodeObject()

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06:51 <arigato> mattip: SOABI: we need to decide something

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06:51 <arigato> I'm fine if we postpone the problem by bumping the SOABI in pypy 5.9, for both CPython extension modules and for cffi

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08:21 <bbot2> Retry: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/3301 [py3.5]

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13:55 <lesshaste> hi all

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15:54 <mattip> hi

15:56 <mattip> arigato: (for the logs) I am a bit indifferent. Since we are bumping the PyPy major. minor version to 5.9, pip should not install 5.8 extension packages on the new release

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15:57 <mattip> perhaps we should bump the SOABI (which is used in practice to describe our CFFI backend implementation) on the next CFFI version step

15:58 <mattip> although OTOH, now CFFI has complex arguments and boolean is a bit different so maybe it needs to be done now?

16:01 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-app-level-linux-armhf-v7/builds/1280

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16:09 <mattip> is there some meme I can reuse about corner/unused features in popular libraries like nditer in numpy, and

16:10 <mattip> efforts by smaller projects like PyPy trying to be compatible with that library,

16:10 <mattip> but not getting any traction on discussing the corner features since no-one uses them in the first place?

16:11 <mattip> something about 0.1% feature multiplied by 0.1% project yeilds something only one person in the world cares about

16:13 <mattip> see for instance my pull request on UPDATEIFCOPY, and the subsequent discussion I tried to start about nditer

16:13 <mattip> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2017-September/077217.html

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