#pypy on 2017-06-17 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:14 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/build-pypy-c-jit-linux-armhf-raring/builds/1589

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00:26 <dstufft> Just an FYI, but https://pypi.org/ is now running on PyPy3 5.8.0

00:26 <dstufft> as in, it is deployed and running

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00:26 <simpson> Yay!

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00:54 <dstufft> So far memory usage is double :P

00:56 <dstufft> Looks like latency is up too

00:58 <dstufft> https://s.caremad.io/WfwKzAKUFk/ this is the graph for the last 8h, the line is basically when we deployed PyPy3

00:58 <dstufft> gonna let it run a few days and see if it ends up going back down, maybe this is normal around this time i dunno

00:59 <simpson> The memory usage probably won't improve over time, but I'd expect the daemon's serving latency to drop as the JIT warms up.

01:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/4699 [py3.5]

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01:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-32/builds/4017 [py3.5]

01:02 <dstufft> simpson: yea, I don't mind the memory usage

01:02 <dstufft> I can throw ram at things, that's cool

01:03 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/build-pypy-c-jit-linux-armel/builds/1838

01:04 <dstufft> more concerned about the latency, not sure how long I should expect it to take for the JIT to warm up, it's been about an hour but ATM the bulk of Warehouse's traffic is being served directly from Fastly instead of hitting the origin servers

01:06 <njs> that is a bit odd... in smallish CPU-bound benchmarks it usually warms up in a few seconds. Obviously warehouse's codebase is a totally different thing though

01:07 <njs> you could try pointing wrk at the origin server and see what happens :-)

01:08 <dstufft> sounds like more effort than I'm going to put into it at 9pm on a Friday ;) If it's still got higher latency tomorrow ro so I'll try that

01:09 <dstufft> It's much easier to whine on #pypy and expect the pypy fairies to make Warehouse super fast without zero effort on my part ;)

01:09 <dstufft> with zero*

01:20 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/build-pypy-c-linux-armhf-raspbian/builds/1467

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01:31 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-s390x/builds/577 [default]

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01:46 <njs`> dstufft: yes, I recommend it

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01:56 <njs> Incidentally we've twice had pypy3 nightly builds lock up during tests on travis during the last few days... there might be some intermittent bug that's snuck in

01:57 <njs> I don't have any more details than that because I haven't managed to reproduce it locally yet, but throwing it out there in case anyone else has seen something similar

01:57 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/build-pypy-c-linux-armel/builds/1727

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02:01 <tos9> dstufft: if you want another point of reference, our largest prod app takes 7 minutes to JIT to an acceptable amount of latency, and ~2 hours to get to nice-ish amounts of latency

02:03 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/4699 [py3.5]

02:06 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-s390x/builds/610 [default]

02:09 <dstufft> tos9: interesting. Presumably you're getting more traffic than Warehouse is too atm :)

02:09 <tos9> dstufft: About 400 QPS per process

02:09 <tos9> Of course that depends on the number of loops in the app too, but yeah, just a rough number :)

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02:25 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-32/builds/4017 [py3.5]

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02:38 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/6013 [py3.5]

02:49 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/3095 [default]

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02:52 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/build-pypy-c-jit-linux-armhf-raspbian/builds/1594

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03:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2242

03:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-32/builds/3034

03:08 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/5255 [py3.5]

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06:20 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/1437 [default]

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06:44 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jitbackendonly-own-linux-armhf/builds/1503

06:44 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-armhf-raspbian/builds/1346

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07:00 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/3096 [py3.5]

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08:23 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-32/builds/3034

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12:41 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2242

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12:49 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/3183 [default]

12:49 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/3184 [py3.5]

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13:12 <dw> dstufft: consider having a little script to throw a few thousand requests at various common endpoints?

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15:26 <della> hey, a simple question: is scipy supported by pypy3?

15:26 <della> hello everybody :)

15:33 <LarstiQ> della: for pypy2, https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/wiki/cpyext_2_-_cython_and_pandas gives you an idea

15:33 <LarstiQ> della: for pypy3, give it a try?

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15:35 <della> LarstiQ: got it, thanks. it complains about not finding blas/lapack

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15:36 <LarstiQ> della: do you have those installed?

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15:41 <dstufft> huh, interesting, memory usage is now up to 3x the original. Gonna need bigger dynos

15:44 <della> LarstiQ: yes, I do because the official py3 has scipy installed but maybe it's not finding the libraries

15:45 <antocuni> della: I think that scipy bundles them at compilation time

15:45 <antocuni> so, to recompile scipy, you need the *-dev packages

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16:27 <kenaan> arigo py3.5 70d5dcb50915 /: Fixes for test_descr

16:27 <kenaan> arigo py3.5 9d66d935ba76 /pypy/module/_io/test/test_fileio.py: Add a failing test. Unsure how to fix it---I can't quite follow the mess of buffers and memoryviews for now...

16:27 <kenaan> arigo py3.5 19f65d747b8e /pypy/module/pypyjit/test_pypy_c/test_weakref.py: Fix test

16:27 <kenaan> arigo py3.5 3351108873e1 /pypy/module/pypyjit/test_pypy_c/test_string.py: Improve test, now not passing for maybe a good reason

16:29 <kenaan> arigo default 2e1b4bdca21f /rpython/rlib/rstring.py: Add "can_be_None=False" in the result annotation of these methods

16:33 <kenaan> arigo py3.5 d7d9692a9f74 /: hg merge default

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16:53 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-app-level-linux-armhf-raspbian/builds/1399

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