00:14 <octonion> Hello, is it possible to build a dynamic shared library (vs static) with ponyc?

00:15 <SeanTAllen> Sorry, I dont understand octonion. Build a dynamic shared library?

00:15 <SeanTAllen> What are you doing?

00:17 <octonion> Yes, you can build a static shared library with ponyc --library i.e. a *.a archive, but I'd like to compile to a dynamic *.so shared library.

00:19 <SeanTAllen> No such option exists with the compiler. I'm curious what your usecase for that would be

00:20 <octonion> It's just for my own learning

00:21 <octonion> Thanks for your answer!

00:23 <SeanTAllen> you're welcome

01:32 <brainpro1> allocation in pony hits hard

01:34 <SeanTAllen> brainpro1?

01:34 <brainproxy> just messing around w/ the access example

01:34 <SeanTAllen> ok. if you have a question, we'll be here.

01:34 <brainproxy> was seeing how far I could take things, e.g. a billion Mathematicians

01:35 <brainproxy> anyway, once I got rid of allocations, then even a billion is pretty snappy

01:36 <brainproxy> but had to do things like not use lambda, and use a single Mathemetician instance to which I was sending a billion messages

01:36 <brainproxy> vs. creating a billion Mathematicians

01:36 <brainproxy> anyway, it just drove home the point from the tutorial about being mindful of allocations

01:37 <SeanTAllen> a billions is quite a few actors.

01:37 <brainproxy> well even when I went to the single actor

01:38 <brainproxy> all the lambda allocations also caused massive jump in mem usage

01:39 <SeanTAllen> ya, every lambda is an object. which has to be allocated and then eventually freed and the pool allocator will generally hold on to that memory.

01:40 <brainproxy> btw, this may be a known thing, but I ended up needing to do my experiments in a linux container on macOS as native seemed to start choking at much lower numbers

01:41 <brainproxy> choking not w.r.t. mem usage, but just taking a looong time to run

06:01 <hateful_moron> Hello, how do I assign 0 (literal) to a variable of generic 'Int' type? https://pastebin.com/c7rvyHub

06:03 <hateful_moron> or of a union type like [T: (I32 | I64)]

06:34 <hateful_moron> I could get it to work by doing 'var x = I32(0) as T', is there a more idiomatic way of doing this? (not having the possibility of raising an error)

08:46 <Candle> hateful_moron: I've used T.from(<literal>) for the generic case.

09:09 <hateful_moron> Thanks for the reply

14:38 <vassilvk> Hi all! I am looking for some ballpark info regarding milestones and planned releases for ponylang/ponyc. For example, what is the next planned release? Is it 0.21.4 or is it 0.22.0, what is expected to be included in it, are there any planned release dates yet, etc. I found https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/issues/424, but I can't tell what decision was made regarding maintaining a road map.

14:42 <SeanTAllen> there will be a new release coming soon that is dependent upon my having time to

14:43 <SeanTAllen> 1) go through the changelog of unreleased items and work out the documentation to help people with breaking changes

14:43 <SeanTAllen> 2) actually do the release

14:43 <SeanTAllen> i intended to do last weekend and didnt have time

14:43 <SeanTAllen> i probably wont have time to do all that this weekend either

15:03 <vassilvk> Thanks SeanTAllen

15:04 <SeanTAllen> you're welcome