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<lichtkind> you mind helping me a bit writing a wikipedia article about pony
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<vaninwagen> lichtkind: sure. just ask, if you have questions. if nobody answers right away, we do use to read the logs and answer later
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<bodie___> howdy
<bodie___> I'm looking at using Pony or erlang/OTP for a good-sized project where things which talk to one another need to run well on customer deployments
<aturley> hello bodie___
<bodie___> is Pony in a sufficiently healthy, active, well-documented, and library-supported state that it's reasonable to even consider?
<bodie___> Not trying to be confrontational, it's just a little hard to tell from here
<aturley> pony is being worked on constantly and is being used by at least one company (wallaroo labs), so i'd say it is healthy and active.
<aturley> the libraries are reasonably well documented (https://stdlib.ponylang.org/) and the tutorial (https://tutorial.ponylang.org/) covers the concepts that are required to understand pony.
<bodie___> I mean, there's clearly a lot going for it :) i've been following you guys on and off since maybe early 2015
<aturley> cool.
<aturley> i don't know if that info i gave helps or not. are there any specific worries that you have?
<bodie___> haven't taken the time yet to explore the current state of things, just looking for a high-level sense of production suitability
<bodie___> how's db / networking / tooling support?
<bodie___> obviously OTP offers a lot of platform, which I'm not necessarily in love with
<aturley> general networking is good. we're adding more tooling, but so far there's dtrace support, lldb support, and support for several editors and ides.
<bodie___> the pony runtime seems solid, I'm more worried about making it work with other systems and other developers
<aturley> some folks have written db drivers/clients.
<bodie___> I assume FFI is good b/c of llvm
<aturley> i put this list together a little while back to help folks who are considering pony: https://gist.github.com/aturley/49b60c98306d90ffc2f981515827b005
<aturley> maybe that helps.
<bodie___> thanks, I'll have a look
<aturley> yeah, FFI is good, we use it pretty heavily here at wallaroo labs.
<bodie___> I was a tiny bit sad to see that the emacs plugin only offers highlighting and indent, lol
<bodie___> otoh it does appear to be a pretty simple language from the perspective of syntax and usability
<aturley> eh, i've been using emacs with pony for a few years now, and i've been happy with it.
<bodie___> have you guys had a good experience onboarding people to use it?
<aturley> granted, it has been said that i use emacs like i'm in the 90s.
<aturley> onboarding hasn't been too much trouble.
<aturley> especially folks who come from actor-based languages like erlang.
<aturley> the hardest part for most people is reference capabilities.
<bodie___> this doc is a good resource
<aturley> thanks
<bodie___> I'm less worried about the syntax and more worried about making different components play nice over the network
<aturley> in what sense?
<bodie___> you guys have something like a container coordination platform, right?
<bodie___> I read a bit of the blog post
<SeanTAllen> its a distributed stream processor
<SeanTAllen> w Python and Go APIs
<bodie___> is there a decent streaming i/o option?
<bodie___> I would assume yes
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<SeanTAllen> depends on how you define "streaming i/o"
<SeanTAllen> can you dig into that a little?
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