00:40 <doublec> SeanTAllen: I've started cleaning up my generics documentation and pushing to https://github.com/doublec/pony-tutorial/tree/generics

00:40 <doublec> SeanTAllen: I'm working on it today and should have a pull request later tonight

01:31 <SeanTAllen> awesome

01:31 <SeanTAllen> wait, that didnt properly capture my emotions: AWESSSSOMEEEE!

01:56 <doublec> Why does this compile? http://pastebin.com/vX7JrTby

01:56 <doublec> The 'get' method return type is this->String iso. Which should be 'String tag' right?

01:57 <doublec> So how can I call the 'string()' method on a tag?

01:57 <doublec> The receiver of the 'get' call is an iso. So iso->iso gives tag.

01:58 <doublec> is there some automagic recovery stuff going on?

02:35 <doublec> Ah I'm wrong

02:35 <doublec> My receiver is a ref

02:36 <doublec> so ref->String iso is a String iso

02:41 <doublec> So why does this->String iso as a return type work but String->iso by itself doesn't.

02:48 <SeanTAllen> iso can be auto-recovered to val. but i wouldnt think what you have would compile...

03:54 <doublec> I guess iso! is also being auto-recovered

11:39 <SeanTAllen> yes that happens with iso!

11:39 <SeanTAllen> wait sorry with iso^

11:39 <SeanTAllen> that really looks like a bug to me

16:20 <SeanTAllen> doublec: between your recent mailing list contributions and the generics section, you are doing some awesome documentation work. anything from your user list emails or anything in general in tutorial or elsewhere you want to improve, by all means please do.

16:27 <bodie_> who do you feel is Pony's strongest competition?

16:34 <SeanTAllen> i dont think of programming languages as a competition bodie_

16:59 <ohir> bodie_: does socked wrench compete with keyed one? ;)

16:59 <ohir> s

16:59 <bodie_> :)

17:00 <bodie_> I wouldn't say most languages are as single-purposed as a socked wrench

17:20 <ohir> yep, but there is no real competition imo, so the metaphor stands. All "new kids" are trying to be universal, but as anything else have their strongs and weaks.

17:22 <ohir> so evenyually each of them will fit in its place. For one it will be a huge place, for other it will be a niche. Time will tell.

17:24 <ohir> as for competitions - if I were a gambler I would bet on cheapest one ;) (to fluorish)

21:04 <doublec> SeanTAllen: thanks!

21:04 <doublec> SeanTAllen: I'm fixing up the generic stuff now and will push shortly

23:54 <Perelandric> Having trouble getting a simplified example that uses Generics to compile...

23:54 <Perelandric> Wondering if someone might have a minute to take a look.

23:54 <Perelandric> https://gist.github.com/Perelandric/19501e1d1e93271468077157bbf9be24