<Regenaxer>
I release now. With 'sqrt' implemented only half yesterday evening.
<Regenaxer>
But it should build
<Regenaxer>
oops, no, still ....
<Regenaxer>
fixed
<Regenaxer>
It was because I moved 'name' into "dec.l"
<Regenaxer>
seems that ext.l needs a dependency on dec.l in Makefile
<Regenaxer>
Thanks! I did not notice because ext.ll was not rebuilt
<Regenaxer>
OK, I changed the dependencies in Makefile
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<beneroth>
hi all
<Regenaxer>
Hi beneroth!
<aw->
hey beneroth
<beneroth>
aw-, :D
<Regenaxer>
Hi aw-
<beneroth>
aw-, how is internet regulation in Japan? In Europe the Though-Police and censors are heavily on the rise. Maybe we should come to Japan?
<aw->
not sure if you saw my message on the mailing list, but we have (for Linux) 32/64 bit binary packages built automatically each time Regenaxer pushes a new version
<Regenaxer>
Japan is traditionally controlled a lot more
<aw->
there's actual laws preventing downloading of pirated content, but i think there's only been 2 or 3 cases of people being fined for it
<beneroth>
here it isn't yet, but it's on the rise. and already used in rare cases for arbitrariness, increasingly so.
<beneroth>
the biggest dangers is that the governments establish laws and mechanism which can be abused without check and balances - which they never would do, of course! but they don't think about what the next government might do.
<beneroth>
and the economical restrictions and additional red-tape
<beneroth>
downloading pirated content is allowed in Switzerland (but not in Germany, there exists a private fine-mechanism which gets greatly abused)
<aw->
hmmm
<beneroth>
but Swiss are not allowed to play on foreign online casino websites (they get DNS blocked, maybe, if you don't happen to use google dns)
<beneroth>
but it is allowed to travel to France and visit physical casinos there
<aw->
i'm more worried about mishandling of private information here in Japan
<aw->
the govnt forces a bunch of new policies which are completely stupid, and very dangerous, but Japanese people don't have the guts to vote those idiots out of parliament.
<Regenaxer>
Privacy was never a big issue in Japan, remains of the pre-Meiji era
<beneroth>
central Europe is the main opponent to this things, culturally, but the protections get removed slice by slice
<aw->
Regenaxer: _was_ never.. it changed significantly in the last 10 years
<Regenaxer>
I see
<beneroth>
the broad issues in our democracies seems to be the lack of alternatives
<aw->
we now have mandatory ID numbers which are used to track EVERYTHING of your personal life: shopping, medical, financial, family
<beneroth>
oh
<beneroth>
social scoring soon? I heard it is a big success in China :)
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<aw->
and it's designed to be "shared" between multiple govnt organizations to "facilitate things"
<beneroth>
aw-, EU wants to establish data sharing in whole EU market, both business and gov, maybe including forcing data release
<beneroth>
some old politicians belief this would be the resource needed to get IT and AI industry / silicon valley style to Europe.
<aw->
oh yes, not to mention the database/systems for managing this new ID number was created by a private company
<aw->
nothing is open source
<aw->
nobody has any idea how it works behind the scenes
<aw->
super secret system
<beneroth>
they fail to recognize that their over-reaching copyright laws are completely strangling such businesses. and that all hacker guys are pissed of for being passively criminalized just for using ping or so.
<beneroth>
aye
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<aw->
interesting times.. haha
<beneroth>
it is an evil mechanism: gov forces data collection, but collection is to be done by private companies, and implementation and all data fall under company secrets
<beneroth>
no lawful way to protest.
<beneroth>
no check and balances.
<aw->
yes exactly
<beneroth>
and then all act surprised when right-wing populists got voted into gov and use the already laws to full force like its 1920.
<beneroth>
(or populists in general)
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<beneroth>
how ironic.. we like to rant about unstable software..but when software becomes more stable than reality we are still not happy :)
<aw->
ahahaa
<aw->
what software is more stable?
<beneroth>
software didn't get better, but we switched to an unstable branch of reality ;-)
<beneroth>
did you see the newest NPM fail?
<aw->
no
<beneroth>
they use Cloudflare...and cloudflare implemented a change in their DDOS detection, getting more sensitive to malformed HTTP. turns out the NPM package downloads have some malformed HTTP.. cloudflare blocked clients. People cannot build their projects anymore because why would you cache your dependencies.