08:05 <aecepoglu[m]> Would picolisp be interested in a PR for using the EDITOR environment variable instead of just "vim" ?

08:06 <aecepoglu[m]> oh wait, it is a lot more hardcoded than that

08:07 <Regenaxer> Not just vim, but also emacs, and I use Vip exculsively

08:07 <Regenaxer> But EDITOR is not used, right

08:11 <aecepoglu[m]> also "emacs" ? How? (edit) only mentions "vim" and has cli args for setting position etc

08:12 <DKordic> aecepoglu[m]: "[help 'em]".

08:12 <DKordic> I would like to see Forks of PicoLisp.

08:15 <aecepoglu[m]> Yeah, I think that's what I will do

08:16 <DKordic> IMHO UNIX ""Environment Variables"" are ID10T-ic.

08:16 <DKordic> Isn't ""hard-coding"" natural in Lisp?

08:17 <DKordic> Straightforward?

08:17 <aecepoglu[m]> Is it? I wouldn't know

08:18 <aecepoglu[m]> It's straightforwards everywhere to hardcode than not

08:20 <aecepoglu[m]> The option to using environment variables to configure a program is by aliasing and cli arguments, which is still fine and many distros will put a ".bashrc" in your home folder that aliases "ls" to "ls --color" or something

08:20 <Regenaxer> In Lisp code and data are equivalent, so *all* is variable ann nothing is hardcoded ;)

08:22 <aecepoglu[m]> true true

08:25 <aecepoglu[m]> alias'ing "pil" to "pil ~/.config.l" is the way, then

08:26 <aecepoglu[m]> but I'll still have to edit "edit.l" so I don't have to redef the whole edit function but just the part that calls "vim"

08:29 <Regenaxer> I have a file env.l

08:30 <Regenaxer> but it has only one line (load "@lib/vip.l")

08:31 <Regenaxer> Global configs are in ~/.pil

08:33 <Regenaxer> There I have e.g. viprc, but also other configs

11:06 <beneroth> hi all

11:09 <beneroth> [OT] Apparently various linux distros have problems booting on a ADM Ryzen CPU.. because SystemD makes a (official, legit, documented) call to rdrand (bios instruction, apparently buggy on AMD Ryzen) instead of using /dev/urandom (or /dev/random)

11:09 <beneroth> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-3K-RdRand-Systemd-Maybe

13:15 <razzy> beneroth lol

13:23 <DKordic> I am very pleased by such a feature.

13:34 <DKordic> I hope systemd... elite will stay true to themselves and clarify it as ""WONTFIX"". Such level of excellence is now called ""poettering"".

13:35 <Regenaxer> Like the dynamic arrays in CLang?

13:37 <DKordic> Yes, as far as I can understand.

13:37 <DKordic> ""Worse Is Better""!? Gabriel was an optimist!! ""Worse of All"" as we can see.

15:07 <beneroth> DKordic, bwahaha