julm has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
julm has joined #ocaml
julm_ has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
bluestorm has quit [Remote closed the connection]
Cromulent has quit []
julm_ has joined #ocaml
tmaedaZ is now known as tmaeda
julm has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
ramenboy has quit [Remote closed the connection]
onigiri_ has quit [Client Quit]
mfp has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
mfp has joined #ocaml
julm has joined #ocaml
julm_ has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
julm_ has joined #ocaml
julm has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
peddie_ has quit [No route to host]
julm has joined #ocaml
julm_ has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
julm_ has joined #ocaml
julm has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
julm has joined #ocaml
julm_ has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
julm_ has joined #ocaml
julm has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
bluestorm has joined #ocaml
julm has joined #ocaml
julm_ has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
BiDOrD has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
BiDOrD has joined #ocaml
Ori_B has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
sgnb has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
sgnb has joined #ocaml
Ori_B has joined #ocaml
julm_ has joined #ocaml
julm has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
caligula__ has joined #ocaml
Cromulent has joined #ocaml
caligula_ has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
jonafan_ has joined #ocaml
Cromulent has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
eyda|mon has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
jonafan has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Cromulent has joined #ocaml
eyda|mon has joined #ocaml
jonafan has joined #ocaml
Cromulent has quit [SendQ exceeded]
Cromulent has joined #ocaml
sramsay has joined #ocaml
Camarade_Tux is now known as C_Tux
sramsay has quit [Remote closed the connection]
jonafan has quit [Connection timed out]
C_Tux is now known as Camarade_Tux
Beelsebob has quit ["Leaving."]
Beelsebob has joined #ocaml
hkBst has joined #ocaml
onigiri has joined #ocaml
mattam has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
david_ has joined #ocaml
julm_ has quit [Remote closed the connection]
david_ is now known as Submarine
|yurug| has joined #ocaml
Cromulent has quit []
Snark has joined #ocaml
<Camarade_Tux>
kaustuv: btw, you said you didn't catch the gobject-introspection hype and I told you I didn't either
<Camarade_Tux>
one of the worst thing is probably functions changing their parameters (where parameters will hold the results), it's impossible to bind properly automatically
<Camarade_Tux>
(same goes for arrays of elements, you don't know if the elements won't be changed)
tmaeda is now known as tmaedaZ
mattam has joined #ocaml
Guest90254 is now known as fremo
onigiri has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
onigiri has joined #ocaml
sramsay has joined #ocaml
thelema_ has joined #ocaml
sramsay has quit ["Leaving"]
gildor has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
jlouis has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
ozzloy has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
jlouis has joined #ocaml
ozzloy has joined #ocaml
gildor has joined #ocaml
thelema_ has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Snark has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
hkBst has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
bluestorm has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Modius has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
jimmyb2187 has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
rbancroft has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
th1_ has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
munga has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
LeCamarade|Away has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
duplo has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
maskd has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
gildor has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Beelsebob has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
mfp has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
yurug has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
patronus has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
gildor has joined #ocaml
thelema_ has joined #ocaml
Snark has joined #ocaml
hkBst has joined #ocaml
Beelsebob has joined #ocaml
bluestorm has joined #ocaml
mfp has joined #ocaml
Modius has joined #ocaml
jimmyb2187 has joined #ocaml
yurug has joined #ocaml
rbancroft has joined #ocaml
LeCamarade|Away has joined #ocaml
munga has joined #ocaml
th1_ has joined #ocaml
duplo has joined #ocaml
patronus has joined #ocaml
maskd has joined #ocaml
Submarine has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
BiDOrD has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Amorphous has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
kaustuv has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
gim has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
mellum has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
bartiosze has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
cmeme has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
svenl has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Beelsebob has quit [Connection reset by peer]
Submarine has joined #ocaml
BiDOrD has joined #ocaml
Amorphous has joined #ocaml
kaustuv has joined #ocaml
gim has joined #ocaml
cmeme has joined #ocaml
svenl has joined #ocaml
mellum has joined #ocaml
bartiosze has joined #ocaml
Beelsebob has joined #ocaml
jlouis has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
sgnb has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
lutter has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
tsuyoshi has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
nimred has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
jlouis has joined #ocaml
sgnb has joined #ocaml
lutter has joined #ocaml
tsuyoshi has joined #ocaml
nimred has joined #ocaml
|yurug| has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
willb has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
rwmjones_ has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
lanaer has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
maxote has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
erickt has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
thelema has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
tmaedaZ has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
orbitz has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
fremo has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
bohanlon has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
prigaux has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
jdavis has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
hcarty has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
aij has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
schme has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
rwmjones has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Beelsebob has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
bjorkLinux has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
TaXules has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
|yurug| has joined #ocaml
willb has joined #ocaml
rwmjones_ has joined #ocaml
lanaer has joined #ocaml
maxote has joined #ocaml
erickt has joined #ocaml
thelema has joined #ocaml
tmaedaZ has joined #ocaml
orbitz has joined #ocaml
fremo has joined #ocaml
bohanlon has joined #ocaml
jdavis has joined #ocaml
schme has joined #ocaml
rwmjones has joined #ocaml
hcarty has joined #ocaml
aij has joined #ocaml
prigaux has joined #ocaml
Beelsebob has joined #ocaml
bjorkLinux has joined #ocaml
TaXules has joined #ocaml
Anarchos has joined #ocaml
Ched has quit [No route to host]
Spiwack has joined #ocaml
bzzbzz has joined #ocaml
<Camarade_Tux>
bah, I don't like writing comments :)
bombshelter13_ has joined #ocaml
Amorphous has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
Amorphous has joined #ocaml
bscofield has joined #ocaml
_andre has joined #ocaml
willb has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
jonafan_ is now known as jonafan
maxote_ has joined #ocaml
eeooff has joined #ocaml
eeooff has left #ocaml []
bzzbzz has quit ["leaving"]
_andre has quit ["leaving"]
maxote has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
maxote_ is now known as maxote
svenl has quit [Connection reset by peer]
|yurug| has quit ["KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/"]
willb has joined #ocaml
svenl has joined #ocaml
brendan has joined #ocaml
thelema has quit ["Lost terminal"]
thelema has joined #ocaml
yurug has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
Modius has quit ["I'm big in Japan"]
yurug has joined #ocaml
yurug has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
yurug has joined #ocaml
gim_ has joined #ocaml
gim has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
Spiwack has quit [Remote closed the connection]
ulfdoz has joined #ocaml
ertai has joined #ocaml
Anarchos has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
Ori_B has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
mbishop has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
noj has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
ertai_ has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
Anarchos has joined #ocaml
Ori_B has joined #ocaml
mbishop has joined #ocaml
noj has joined #ocaml
ozzloy has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
mattam has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
caligula__ has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
det has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
mishok13 has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
tarbo2_ has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
sbok has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
wysek has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net]
ozzloy has joined #ocaml
mattam has joined #ocaml
caligula__ has joined #ocaml
det has joined #ocaml
mishok13 has joined #ocaml
tarbo2_ has joined #ocaml
sbok has joined #ocaml
wysek has joined #ocaml
flux has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
hkBst has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
flux has joined #ocaml
slash_ has joined #ocaml
onigiri has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
onigiri has joined #ocaml
onigiri_ has joined #ocaml
onigiri has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
sramsay has joined #ocaml
bscofield has quit []
Ched has joined #ocaml
onigiri_ has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
onigiri has joined #ocaml
hkBst has joined #ocaml
Snark has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
Submarine has quit [Remote closed the connection]
Hydrant has joined #ocaml
<Hydrant>
is this the best hangout for functional programming speak ?
<bluestorm>
this is an IRC channel about the OCaml language
<kaustuv>
Hydrant: there's #proglangdesign and some other channels that talk about fp in general
<bluestorm>
ooh, didn't know about this one
onigiri_ has joined #ocaml
<bluestorm>
is it interesting kaustuv ?
<bluestorm>
(I wouldn't mind idling on something a bit more interactive than LtU)
<kaustuv>
I think it's mostly dead, unfortunately
<kaustuv>
I think idling on all of #haskell, #scala, #ocaml, and possibly others might be the best idea
<Hydrant>
how much of a cost is really incurred by making things immutable in functional languages?
<bluestorm>
depends on what your constraint are
<bluestorm>
+s
<bluestorm>
Hydrant: In a multi-threaded settings it is not a cost but a net benefit : you get lock-free data structures !
<Hydrant>
lock-free doesn't always mean fast
<bluestorm>
also when you need persistence you'll want immutable things anyway
<bluestorm>
so it all depends on what your needs are
<bluestorm>
Hydrant: "a cost" doesn't mean an execution time cost
<bluestorm>
(doesn't always)
<kaustuv>
mutation in a GC'd language is generally more expensive than allocation
<Hydrant>
I'm looking at Ct, and NESL... in particular data parallel programming techniques in C++
<Hydrant>
Ct advocates one of its greatest strengths is the immutable data model it borrowed from FP
<kaustuv>
NESL is great, but if you understand Guy Blelloch's parallel quicksort implementation you're a cleverer man than I
<Hydrant>
I've been reading a lot of his papers lately
<Hydrant>
he keeps coming up :-)
<kaustuv>
mutation is not all that bad, I think, if you keep it confined to ONE process
<Hydrant>
in my experience garbage collection kills parallel performance
<kaustuv>
what really kills parallel performance is Amdahl's law
<Hydrant>
indeed
onigiri has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
hkBst has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
flux has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
flx__ has joined #ocaml
julm has joined #ocaml
julm has quit ["Lost terminal"]
julm has joined #ocaml
onigiri has joined #ocaml
onigiri_ has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
onigiri_ has joined #ocaml
bombshelter13_ has quit []
<rbancroft>
how is mutation more expensive than allocation? you mean within a transaction of some kind?
<bluestorm>
rbancroft: with a GC and a write barrier
ulfdoz has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
onigiri has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
<rbancroft>
bluestorm: hmm, I see. that still seems surprising to me