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<chomwitt> goodmorniing from greece
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<DocScrutinizer05> good morning to Greece!
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<chomwitt1> thanks!!
<chomwitt1> DocScrutinizer05: are u in germany?
<DocScrutinizer05> yes
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<chomwitt1> good afternoon to germany!!
<chomwitt1> kalispera!
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* chomwitt1 compiles eeshow in debian 8.6 stable
* wpwrak smiles
<chomwitt1> i get an error : make pull
<chomwitt1> 70: syntax error near "holes"
<chomwitt1> Makefile:37: recipe for target 'dfn.mod' failed
<wpwrak> seems that your fped is very old. you may have to build it from sources
<chomwitt1> ok. i'll try that
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<wpwrak> (very old) i added that keyword more than four years ago ;-)
<chomwitt1> and where is the src of fpad?
<chomwitt1> i found old builds
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<wpwrak> git clone git://projects.qi-hardware.com/fped.git
<chomwitt1> ok fped compiled
<Joerg-Neo900> how do you like eeschow?
<Joerg-Neo900> eeshow even
<chomwitt1> make view donwload many pdf from various locations... specs?
<chomwitt1> Joerg-Neo900: hi, i had issues compiling it , but wpwrak helped me
<wpwrak> chomwitt1: when it's done, you'll have quick access to all the data sheets which are then locally cached
<chomwitt1> the prospect of helping at hardware level , or the "crowdsoursing" of hardware inspection is very appealing to me.
<chomwitt1> although my theoritical knowledges of electic circuis are low i wonder of visual inspection is a job not requiring to be an expert
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<chomwitt1> /s/of/if
<wpwrak> often the contrary is true: experts tend to look for specific patterns. newbies don't know these patterns yet, so they have a better chance of finding unusual bugs :)
<chomwitt1> wpwrak: if thats true maybe i'm lucky!
<wpwrak> cherish that innocence while it lasts ! ;-)
<chomwitt1> :-)
<chomwitt1> make view stalled and tries 5th time do download a connector spec
<wpwrak> what's the url ?
<Joerg-Neo900> yeah, that URL sucks
<Joerg-Neo900> We'd provide all datasheets from Neo900 server if we were allowed to do so
<Joerg-Neo900> http://jae-connector.com/ is "dead"
<chomwitt1> so i stop make view and try to change the related file?
<wpwrak> it should eventually proceed on its own
<wpwrak> no easy fix for this one: als digi-key and mouser (which both still have the part) don't have local copies
<Joerg-Neo900> you'll just miss that one datasheet in eeshow
<wpwrak> always the best combination: a company that is very defensive about retaining control over where their data sheets go, and then fails to keep their server available 24/7 :)
<Joerg-Neo900> indeed
<Joerg-Neo900> wpwrak: how to avoid a make show retrying to download in vain for a long time, next time it gets invoked?
<Joerg-Neo900> is there a cmdline option like --no-ds-download
<wpwrak> Joerg-Neo900: i think, once it has completed, it won't try again until you change something in the schematics
<Joerg-Neo900> aah ok
<Joerg-Neo900> even when a download failed?
<Joerg-Neo900> IOW when completed unsuccessfully
<wpwrak> you could also touch docdb.out (after making changes) to keep it from updating the cache
<Joerg-Neo900> :-)
<Joerg-Neo900> chomwitt1: did it finish?
<wpwrak> as long as it created docdb.out, it won't try again. and it should ignore download problems (that's what the -i option you asked for does :)
<chomwitt1> nop
<Joerg-Neo900> o.O
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<chomwitt1> 12 try on the same url
<chomwitt1> so do i stop it?
<wpwrak> wget can be persistent :)
<Joerg-Neo900> ohmy! :-P
<Joerg-Neo900> and it needs to timeout
<wpwrak> wget should stop after 20 failed attempts
<Joerg-Neo900> "good" X-P
<wpwrak> chomwitt1: so you're close ;-)
<chomwitt1> ok
<Joerg-Neo900> for speeding up, try "killall wget"? wpwrak, approve that?
<Joerg-Neo900> or will the script freak out on the (missing) reply from wget?
<wpwrak> mmh. could work. but i'd just wait. should be almost through by now anyway.
<Joerg-Neo900> well, patience is a virtue
<Joerg-Neo900> patch request: add wget parameters -t5 -T30
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<wpwrak> Joerg-Neo900: you can set this in your .wgetrc (either in $HOME, or make $WGETRC point to it): timeout = 30 and tries = 5
<chomwitt1> i'll be afk for some hours.
<chomwitt1> try 18
<chomwitt1> :-)
<Joerg-Neo900> chomwitt1: oh please stay the remaining 2 tries!
<chomwitt1> so if that fails i'd be able to launch eeshow with one spec missing?
<Joerg-Neo900> I am eager to hear your comments on first time using eeshow
<Joerg-Neo900> of course
<chomwitt1> i mean generally i'll be afk
<chomwitt1> sporadically i'll check
<Joerg-Neo900> as I said, you'll only miss that one datasheet
<Joerg-Neo900> wpwrak: good call
<chomwitt1> i'll be back in minutes
<chomwitt1> 19 :-)
<Joerg-Neo900> I *hope* this will be the only nasty URL
<Joerg-Neo900> chomwitt1: echo -e "timeout = 30\ntries = 5" > ~/.wgetrc
<Joerg-Neo900> oops
<Joerg-Neo900> chomwitt1: echo -e "timeout = 30\ntries = 5" >> ~/.wgetrc
<Joerg-Neo900> please don't use the first one
<Joerg-Neo900> *now*
<chomwitt1> ok it continues with the next one
<chomwitt1> it 'gave up' at 20th try
<Joerg-Neo900> please do echo -e "timeout = 30\ntries = 5" >> ~/.wgetrc
<Joerg-Neo900> it will reduce wget persistence to 5 tries a 30s
<Joerg-Neo900> works, I just tested it
<Joerg-Neo900> 30 minutes for 8 tirs is really exaggerated
<Joerg-Neo900> tries*
<chomwitt1> Joerg-Neo900: u mean in case i run again make view in the future
<chomwitt1> ?
<Joerg-Neo900> [2017-05-04 Thu 17:41:15] <chomwitt1> make view stalled and tries 5th time do download a connector spec [2017-05-04 Thu 18:17:17] <chomwitt1> it 'gave up' at 20th try
<Joerg-Neo900> in case any URL from now on has same issue, yes
<Joerg-Neo900> even for current run of make show
<Joerg-Neo900> but I think make show should have finished meanwhile
<chomwitt1> a!! it can change the wget behavior while running!?
<Joerg-Neo900> unless it actually ran into another dead URL
<Joerg-Neo900> wget gets invoked for each URL
<chomwitt1> i see the script call wget again and again
<Joerg-Neo900> yes
<chomwitt1> ok done
<Joerg-Neo900> :-)
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<Joerg-Neo900> reduces waits from dead URLs from 18:17 - 17:41 =~ 35 minutes to 2:30min
<Joerg-Neo900> "default is a 900-second read timeout" * "default is to retry 20 times" = ETERNITY
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<Joerg-Neo900> in my math that's 5h, no idea why yours already finsihed after less than 1h
<Joerg-Neo900> your internet is slow?
<Joerg-Neo900> iirc my last download from `make show` took like 2 minutes
<wpwrak> Joerg-Neo900: this was the connect timeout, which is system-dependent (unless you override that)
<Joerg-Neo900> hmm, possible
<Joerg-Neo900> yeah, that's some 90s on my system, since the default 5 minutes sucked
<Joerg-Neo900> I still wonder why chomwitt1's seems to still now finished
<Joerg-Neo900> not* finished
<Joerg-Neo900> or he's so shocked by eeshow he can't say a word :-D
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<Joerg-Neo900> chomwitt1: still here?
<Joerg-Neo900> make view of course, not make show
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<enyc> =))
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<chomwitt1> ok , eeshow launched
<Joerg-Neo900> wow, finally :-D
<chomwitt1> 4 downloads failed
<Joerg-Neo900> can you please share the remaining 3 URLs?
<enyc> OoOOoooOoo chomwitt1 going to help with neo900? ;-)
<Joerg-Neo900> just in time :-) I'm negotiating with our layouter if and how he's going to use git and our tool framework (make, fped, eeshow...)
<Joerg-Neo900> chomwitt1: so eeshow works for you?
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<Joerg-Neo900> ta!
<chomwitt1> and the aforementioned http://jae-connector.com/en/pdf/SJ106220.pdf (1)
<Joerg-Neo900> The requested URL /www-data/pdf/ATB0000/ATB0000CE11.pdf was not found on this server.
<Joerg-Neo900> (3) AccessDeniedAccess Denied91ABB2403B6BF6457XyYhBrslg2BXn3XJVVnXYRG85cPjc7rRwjp79/IraHXopkSbcmTs2KDYviqTF8v
<Joerg-Neo900> (4( Error Code 404(HTTP_NOT_FOUND)
<chomwitt1> yep, eeshow started ok.
<chomwitt1> i'm reading the eeshow doc now with the goal to try and see if i can help .
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<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: i'm updating the anelok BOM and had to fix update the catalog query scripts (for digi-key and newark - they changed their product page layouts, so the scripts couldn't parse them anymore), which live in neo900 misc/bom/. shall i just update them there ? i didn't test things for the n900 side, but i guess there's little risk of having made anything worse
<Joerg-Neo900> I need to think about that
<Joerg-Neo900> err yes, please update them there and maybe test
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<wpwrak> hmm, makes it through digi-key and newark. fails at arrow. so their web designers weren't idle, either ...
<wpwrak> and the ADP1653 (flash led controller) got a little harder to source ...
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<wpwrak> ... and the PAS3225P supercap
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<Joerg-Neo900> the supercaps change constantly
<Joerg-Neo900> you still can get PAS414 but sources change every other week
<Joerg-Neo900> they do since 10 years
<Joerg-Neo900> we're not religious about PAS3225P, we just picked that one since it seemed like "long term available and about right size"
<Joerg-Neo900> if it's some other type that's en vogue now, we may still change to that one
<Joerg-Neo900> with more and more smartphones coming with embedded battery that can't get removed by user, supercaps get out of fashion somewhat
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