<imperator> lopex, well, what's happening is that i'm getting an invalid handle value returned from the GetCurrentProcess method on windows when using 64-bit jruby
<imperator> so it doesn't segfault, it just errors out when i try to use that value
<imperator> i tried hard coding it (to 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF) but then it complains about a bignum being too big to convert into a long
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<lopex> ah
<imperator> if there's some other type i can use to trick it, i'm happy to do so
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<imperator> hm, could use ulong_long i suppose
<lopex> via ffi ?
<imperator> yeah, just check for 'java' and bitness
<imperator> if java and 64bit, then typedef a :handle to :ulong_long instead of :uintptr_t
<imperator> clunky, but should work
<imperator> now...if i can just rember how to tell if i'm using a 64 bit jruby...
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<headius> imperator: should show in -v
<imperator> headius, within a program :)
<headius> oh, it's some property I always have to look up
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<headius> it's in ENV_JAVA somewhere
<Felystirra> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question, but I'm asking it in consideration of my jruby app... When you're making a web request over ssl, are the URL and headers visible? or just the URL? or is the entire thing encrypted -- assuming no hijacks/breaks, the content and destination are encrypted?
<headius> nothing at all should be visible
<headius> the connection first negotiates encryption, and then you proceed from there as an HTTP request
<headius> that's why russia had to block all of github rather than just the pages they didn't like...github is always ssl
<headius> can't see what page was requested
<Felystirra> so in theory, in that scenario, if someone in russia knew github's api ip, they could still use the api?
<headius> I think they blocked the IPs
<headius> they had to just block it completely
<imperator> wut?
* imperator missed this
<headius> Russia blocked Github a couple times in the past month for having disagreeable content
<headius> the latest one was a document listing the pros and cons of various methods of suicice
<imperator> oh brother
<Felystirra> oh, right. that did do an ip block vs a dns block.
<imperator> headius, java.vm.name ?
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<headius> sun.arch.data.model
<headius> I don't think there's a better one :\
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] jhart-r7 opened issue #2290: Add Apache Karaf Modules http://git.io/fbWFEw
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<imperator> headius, thanks
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<nirvdrum> Sweet. It looks like the zlib test wrapped a second boundar and caused the build to fail :-/
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/r7uqmg
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 5154d74 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Be explicit about what the guards are applying to.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 8a5ba25 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Removed unnecessary casts.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 4793478 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Use a NameError rather than NoMethodError for bad references on main object....
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum reopened issue #2289: Incorrect exception type for bad reference. http://git.io/NLPBrg
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/5ymUzQ
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master fb50f34 Kevin Menard: Fixed casing to match MRI.
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/olVs3g
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 9d3217f Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Use the correct guard methods.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 6fcfcef Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Handle non-Binding instances being passed to Kernel#eval.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 01689a2 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Untag the BEGIN language specs now that Kernel#eval doesn't blow up.
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<nirvdrum> Another failure due to something taking a tad too long.
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<projectodd-ci> Yippie, build fixed!
<projectodd-ci> Project jruby-master-spec-compiler build #134: FIXED in 24 min: https://projectodd.ci.cloudbees.com/job/jruby-master-spec-compiler/134/
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<imperator> hm, think i found a bug
<imperator> Dir["/foo/bar/baz/jruby.{com,exe,bat,cmd,vbs,vbe,js,jse,wsf,wsh,msc,rb,rbw}"] # IllegalArgumentException
<imperator> the key thing here is that the path isn't found - in MRI that just returns nil
<imperator> this a known issue or shall i report it?
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] djberg96 opened issue #2291: Dir[] fails if path does not exist instead of returning nil http://git.io/fJ916w
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<ruby-nuby> hi. sorry if this is a stupid question, i am totally new to ruby. i need to consume 'maven' dependencies. i installed the jbundler gem, and i ran jbundle install. it created a .jbundle/classpath.rb file. but when i run my ruby code (in intellij) it does not pick up that classpath from that file.
<ruby-nuby> it seems jbundler assumes i know how to use bundler, of which it is an extension for jruby i guess..
<ruby-nuby> also, it seems to build the JBUNDLER_CLASSPATH wrong
<ruby-nuby> it keeps adding Jars.home and then ':' - which is not correct for windows
<ruby-nuby> so the classpath it builds is not usuable.
<ruby-nuby> even after i fix it, if i do require 'java' and require 'jbundler' - i still get class def not found errors
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<travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:fb50f34 by Kevin Menard): The build was fixed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/43420075)
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<travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:01689a2 by Kevin Menard): The build was fixed. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/43421287)
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/kS7-_g
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 387a68a Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Untagged some passing Float specs.
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/UySa6A
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 94a5a52 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Untagged passing String specs.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 2fbcf84 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Properly interpolate strings referencing objects with private to_s implementations.
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/Zl5P-Q
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master d2bc983 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Fix String interpolation when the referenced object's 'to_s' doesn't return a String.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 218eb08 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Get rid of some nulls just to be safe.
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<enebo> dfr|work: ugh
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<travis-ci> jruby/jruby (master:2fbcf84 by Kevin Menard): The build was broken. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/43471875)
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<nirvdrum> Aethenelle: Any thoughts on how make this test not flaky? https://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/jobs/43403371
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<nirvdrum> It seems to be dependent on how fast Travis can execute.
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<nirvdrum> headius: Not sure if this is another thread issue or just a time-based issue because Travis is slow: https://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/jobs/43471924
<asarih> nirvdrum: time-dependent tests are bad… just saying.
<nirvdrum> asarih: Not disagreeing. On failed yesterday because the seconds rolled over from 2 to 3.
<nirvdrum> *One failed
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<asarih> nirvdrum: wheeeee
<nirvdrum> asarih: What are these run on anyway? m1.small?
<enebo> asarih: but for knowing whether blocking is blocking forever you sort of need some time limit to fail vs hang forever
<asarih> nirvdrum: it's a Blue Box instance. 1.5 VCPU, 3 GB memory.
<enebo> I am not saying time limits are great but for blocknig tests how else do you fail?
<asarih> enebo: I agree with you!
<nirvdrum> asarih: Ahh. I thought you guys were on AWS.
<asarih> nirvdrum: some are. but they are not EC2 instances.
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<asarih> nirvdrum: i.e., Docker containers running on large EC2 instances
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<nirvdrum> asarih: Ahh. I was having a hard time reconciling that in my head.
<enebo> nirvdrum: You can commit this to a longer time value I don’t know what it is doing but it cannot be testing <1s as any thing more than it blocked forever. Aethenelle can change it later if we are wrong
<Aethenelle> ?
<nirvdrum> enebo: I didn't look into it. I'm not sure if it semantically is supposed to be < 1s or was just an arbitrarily chosen time.
<enebo> Aethenelle: test ffi function on travis is hitting >1s on an ffi spec
<Aethenelle> which?
<enebo> threads << Thread.new { fp.call(2) }
<enebo> threads << Thread.new(time) { expect(Time.now - time).to be < 1 }
<enebo> function_spec.rb
<Aethenelle> lemme look
<nirvdrum> Aethenelle: It looks like you were bouncing between nicks, so you probably missed it: https://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/jobs/43471924
<enebo> Some of these are crazy because the fp.call thread might take a long time to get a timeslice to run
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<Aethenelle> i'm on a train.... wimax has terrible coverage here
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<Aethenelle_> better test of a blocking function would be concurrency abuse wouldn't it? use something with a wide race condition and exploit it...
<Aethenelle_> for now, increase the timeout or disable that test as desired...
<Aethenelle_> i'm not sure that's even a valid test as it sits... comment it out
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<nirvdrum> I'll take care of thats shortly and file an issue so it doesn't get lost. I have a messy workspace right now.
<nirvdrum> All in all, the builds have been a lot more stable recently.
<nirvdrum> So, hooray.
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<Aethenelle> okay... i think I have a semi good one...
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<Aethenelle> don't use threads, and verify Time.now - time > 2
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<enebo> lopex: You linked that one last time we talked....
<enebo> lopex: oh there is a regexp engine bug maybe
<enebo> lopex: oh actually I think it was fixed and I was looking at closed…nvm
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<lopex> enebo: that was another one
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<enebo> lopex: It is possible this is just too much parsing and not an actual bug
<headius> enebo: how are things looking?
<enebo> headius: fine
<headius> I'm tweaking presentation for tonight and will head to Chicago in a couple hours
<enebo> headius: roger found a bug on windows but in looking at it quick I don’t think it is a regression
<headius> ok
<enebo> headius: in any case I am not going to stop this release for it
<lopex> enebo: so that one is fixed ?
<enebo> lopex: it is not
<lopex> after 1.7.8 ?
<enebo> lopex: I marked it for 1.7.18
<lopex> ok
<lopex> not very reduced case
<rtyler> is it release time!
<lopex> do it!
* rtyler sits on the edge of his stat
<enebo> lopex: and a 1+ followed by a ?
<enebo> heh
<Aethenelle> headius: you're going to be in chicago? where?
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<Aethenelle> bah... one night only and not that close...
<Aethenelle> when are you getting in?
<headius> Arriving ORD around 2:30...I probably should figure out where I'm staying and stuff
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<nirvdrum> enebo: Is there a reason line 772 couldn't delegate to method on 767 here? My guess is not and this is just an oversight, but I want to ensure you're not worried about an extra method call: https://github.com/jruby/jruby/blob/master/core/src/main/java/org/jruby/RubyString.java#L767-L772
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<enebo> nirvdrum: no not really. I doubt this was a microopt either (sometimes people would do stuff like this so it did not need the JIT to inline it).
<enebo> nirvdrum: You can change it if you want
<nirvdrum> Cool.
<nirvdrum> The inlining bit was why I was asking.
<nirvdrum> I'm just coming across some stuff as I go along here.
<claudiuinberlin> guys, what king of jvm profiler with jruby should I use?
<enebo> nirvdrum: If we do that we should end up commenting on it in code
<nirvdrum> Agreed.
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<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 238637a Kevin Menard: There seems to be no point in manually inlining a method here.
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] enebo pushed 1 new commit to jruby-1_7: http://git.io/JV37Dg
<JRubyGithub> jruby/jruby-1_7 084d55e Thomas E. Enebo: Bump for new version
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/Pdda5A
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 6495e26 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Implemented enough of Encoding.list to get Encoding#to_s specs passing.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master b0446ed Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Added a helper for creating a RubyString from a ByteList.
<JRubyGithub> jruby/master a5816e5 Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Store the encoding name in a convenient format.
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] enebo pushed 1 new commit to jruby-1_7: http://git.io/gK9K_A
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<JRubyGithub> jruby/jruby-1_7 fafd1a7 Thomas E. Enebo: Fix issues with jruby-jars for release
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<JRubyGithub> jruby/master 4bf8f6e Kevin Menard: [Truffle] Initial implementation of Encoding#inspect.
<JRubyGithub> [jruby] nirvdrum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ysnK-w
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<headius> hey, 150 users...the winter surge continues
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<rtyler> yay
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] zanker opened pull request #2292: Remove unnecessary puts for GC::Profiler.total_time (master...jruby-gc-profiler-puts) http://git.io/VYnTPg
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<Aethenelle> huh... the rbx ffi generator is in jruby and MRI's FFI but it's not used in MRI... anyone know of a reason?
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<Aethenelle> well crap... that can be used for uname...
<lopex> enebo: 1+ ?
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<Aethenelle> there an easy way to handle an #ifdef in one of these .ffi files?
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<Aethenelle> huh.... we could use the rbx etc files if we wanted... not sure we really do as a blanket policy since they create platform dependant code...
<Aethenelle> we don't seem to be using many of these generated files actually... lib/ruby/stdlib/ffi/platform/**/*.rb
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<enebo> lopex: (foo)+?
<Aethenelle> though, they may have been largely suplanted by jnr-constants and jnr-posix
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] djberg96 opened issue #2293: uintptr_t is wrong size on 64-bit JRuby http://git.io/RWYn2w
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<Aethenelle> SQUEE!! getting some very nice info and ideas for creating qemu VMs
<Aethenelle> should have a working sparc-solaris machine soon enough...
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] enebo tagged 1.7.17 at jruby-1_7: http://git.io/yTT6Fw
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<Aethenelle> question: how does the amazon hosting get paid for?
<enebo> Aethenelle: Who are you asking?
<Aethenelle> I'm trying to figure out hosting for the various VMs I'll need to set up for FFI... was wondering if i could piggyback on jruby's arrangement w/ amazon (assuming one existed)...
<enebo> Aethenelle: we don’t have one. We are using a hosted instance from engineyard but we will be trying to move off that soon since we only do static pages for www.jruby.org on it now
<Aethenelle> the actual download is from S3... engineyard taking care of that too then?
<enebo> Aethenelle: they are at least currently
<enebo> Aethenelle: for S3 I am not sure if we will be moving those to someone elses account or not
<Aethenelle> k... I'll keep looking around then...
<enebo> Aethenelle: k
<rtyler> 1.7.17
<rtyler> YAYYYYYY
<rtyler> WOOOOOOO
<enebo> rtyler: Can you set milestones and such? I don’t remember?
<enebo> on issues
<Aethenelle> hrm... maybe i can talk w/ the distros I use about hosting them for vagrant...
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<enebo> Aethenelle: It would so great to be able to hook up to an instance of each platform we support
<Aethenelle> is there an official list somewhere?
<Aethenelle> pretty sure AIX and maybe a couple others are going to have to be hardware still
<enebo> Aethenelle: I just look at jnr-ffi Platform enum
<Aethenelle> k
<enebo> Aethenelle: which does not include versions of architectures of those OSes
<enebo> os390 might also be hard
<enebo> :)
<Aethenelle> enebo: yes, not gonna happen... maybe.. at least not w/ vagrant
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<rtyler> enebo: yes, I can now, what's up
<enebo> People who enjoy fixing jruby bugs…please consider 1.7.18 targetted issues. They should be that hard and are things we should get fixed sooner than later
<rtyler> I'll see what we can do
<enebo> rtyler: remember to set milestone on issues and also perhaps let mkristian to know again
<Aethenelle> huh... there's a couple 390 emulators...
* rtyler nods
<rtyler> now I have to write up an internal announcement
<rtyler> a chore I'll gladly do :D
<enebo> very few people ever mark milestones and I spend time each release doing it. I am sure I sometimes get the milestone wrong :)
<rtyler> for jruby-gradle it's the only sane way I can generate the changelogs
<Aethenelle> i've been going through the jira tickets recently myself
<mkristian> :)
<enebo> I just realized right now that I have not been doing it for PRs :)
<enebo> mkristian: heya!
<mkristian> enebo, hi
<enebo> mkristian: I did not change to -SNAPSHOT manually so you have a virgin landscape
<enebo> mkristian: I sent an email about rmvn not working due to I think cyclical boostrapping issue
<enebo> mkristian: or maybe just ordering perhaps
<mkristian> enebo, cool, that should be working but it does not - let's see
<enebo> (I did not realize mkristian was on or I would not have asked rtyer to remind him)
<mkristian> to put labels - yes I got the message
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<rtyler> enebo: "wrong encoding of “hen string interpolation is involved"
<rtyler> I think that's supposed to say 'is resolved'
<enebo> rtyler: perhaps fixed at front is less confusing?
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<rtyler> that works too
<enebo> we had an issue where encoding was wrong when interpolation was involved
<nirvdrum> enebo: "wrong encoding of “hen string interpolation is involved" ?
<enebo> I will change it on the website though
<nirvdrum> Heh. rtyler was similarly confused.
<nirvdrum> Wow. The popen stuff got fixed. I missed that.
<enebo> - fixed wrong encoding of `` contents when string interpolation is involved
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<enebo> nirvdrum: is that better?
<enebo> nirvdrum: if not give me the proper sentence :)
<nirvdrum> enebo: So, interpolation within backticks?
<Aethenelle> there's a few IBM people flowing in and out of here... maybe we can con them out of a license/installer
<enebo> nirvdrum: yeah
<enebo> Aethenelle: yeah I would think it would be in their best interests
<Aethenelle> 123notit
<enebo> Aethenelle: It is not like we will be making money off of a licensed instance or anything
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<enebo> whoever smelt it dealt it
<Aethenelle> whoever denied it supplied it...
<nirvdrum> enebo: I'd just leave the symbols out and say "backticks" to lower the likelihood of being misread. In a proportional font, it can be a bit hard.
<enebo> mpapis: geez I guess I forgot to tell you 1.7.17 is out :|
<Aethenelle> or just use a single `
<enebo> nirvdrum: GIVE ME THE SENTENCE
<enebo> :)
<Aethenelle> ewww.... http://linuxvm.org
<nirvdrum> enebo: Fixed bad encoding of string interpolated within backticks (``).
<enebo> nirvdrum: looks better
<nirvdrum> enebo: You mean locally? Or did you push it live already?
<mpapis> enebo, just pushed version - good I did not push stable yesterday
<enebo> mpapis: thanks!
<enebo> nirvdrum: It is deploying right now
<mpapis> enebo, 1day heads up would be even better
<enebo> nirvdrum: shoudl be done
<enebo> mpapis: yeah I feel silly since I told Terrence yesterday
<enebo> mpapis: too much multi-tasking maybe? Or I am getting feebleminded in my old age
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<nirvdrum> enebo: I guess the backticks still look werid. And the trailing ')' was lost.
<mpapis> enebo, or just separate news / mail list
<enebo> heh
<mpapis> enebo, automation always helps
<enebo> mpapis: well automation might help but there is no single release in jruby
<enebo> mpapis: we push to rubygems, maven, and our website
<enebo> mpapis: sometimes we frequently stop part way through but I should change process so you get a better heads up
<enebo> we need 2phase commit
<mpapis> enebo, well, in rvm2 I will just query news/tags and change automatically after tests pass
<mpapis> maybe more like 2.5 ;)
<enebo> mpapis: cool!
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<nirvdrum> enebo: Looks better.
<enebo> nirvdrum: k
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<travis-ci> jruby/jruby (jruby-1_7:084d55e by Thomas E. Enebo): The build was broken. (http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/43495634)
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<nirvdrum> enebo: Although if you do make another change, I guess I'd make the "Fixed" lowercase for consistency. But I'm trying to not let it bother me :-P
<enebo> hahah
<enebo> nirvdrum: I am leaving it in just because I know that fact now :P
<nirvdrum> This may shock you, but I'm rather anal about that stuff.
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] elyscape opened issue #2294: String#crypt fails on Windows http://git.io/HClKig
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<enebo> yay
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] mkristian closed issue #1237: jffi*.tmp files remain in %TMP% folder http://git.io/wyVOpA
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] mkristian reopened issue #1237: jffi*.tmp files remain in %TMP% folder http://git.io/wyVOpA
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<zacts> will the next version of jruby have support for ruby 2.*?
<enebo> zacts: jruby 9000 will and it will be out next month
<enebo> zacts: but it will support ruby 2.2
<zacts> was that sarcasm?
<enebo> zacts: jruby 1.7.x will continue to support ruby 1.9.3 and ruby 1.8.7
<zacts> ah ok
<kares> sarcasm :)
<enebo> zacts: jruby 9000 is actually jruby 9.0.0.0 :)
<zacts> well, I'm curious because I want to develop for the android using ruby
<zacts> I am learning ruby 2.1 now
<zacts> I wonder how different 1.9 is from 2.1
<enebo> zacts: not that much different if you do not use keyword arguments
<zacts> ok cool
<Aethenelle> zacts there's a bunch that changed from 1.9.3 - 2.0 not at much from 2.0 to 2.1
<enebo> zacts: Even then many 1.9 programs will still work
<zacts> does jruby byte compile?
<zacts> or is it all purely interpreted?
<Aethenelle> i don't think there were any changes that break forward compatability like there were from 1.8 - 1.9
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<zacts> Aethenelle: ah ok
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<Aethenelle> zacts: i'm not sure on 1.7... pretty sure the default is only after a certain threshold... 9k is all JIT by default
<zacts> ah ok JIT
<enebo> zacts: both are mixed mode runtimes just different impls
<Aethenelle> event without the JIT, the AST and IR interpreters are pretty fast
<zacts> nice
<lopex> enebo: what's the cold perf of IR vs old AST ?
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<enebo> lopex: IR interp is still a little bit slower warm and cold but that will change
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<Aethenelle> okay... the syslog stuff is using the FFI generators rather than jnr-posix... since that's just constants, I'm not sure why...
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<cpuguy83> Any idea why attempting to build jruby from a specific commit will work, then a week later it does not?
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<cpuguy83> I guess the builder is trying to pull stuff that doesn’t exist anymore?
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] jeremyevans opened issue #2295: Regexp.union [] gives wrong result in ruby 1.8 mode http://git.io/yilZAw
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<chrisseaton> cpuguy83: correct - this commit was relying on a snapshot release, which will always be changing
<jeremyevans_> enebo: headius: while the bug I just opened isn't a security vulnerability in jruby, it could potentially cause a vulnerability in applications running jruby
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<JRubyGithub> [jruby] phrinx opened issue #2296: NullPointerException with JRuby 1.7.17 running rspec & simplecov in debug mode http://git.io/AD6mSg
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<abedra> headius: I should have reached out earlier, but you are more than welcome to swing by the Groupon office any time today. We've got plenty of space for you.
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<enebo> jeremyevans_: I see. I guess based on number of remaining 1.8.7 JRuby users (I am guessing is getting pretty small) plus needing to accept [] we can probably wait and get this for 1.7.18
<enebo> marked against 18
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<chrisseaton> Named captures in a regexp - where are these set as locals? I can't any code relating to them at all.
<enebo> chrisseaton: I would guess ParserSupport
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<chrisseaton> enebo: I mean after the match is made, at runtime, where are the captured strings copied into local variables - that's not going to be in ParserSupport is it?
<enebo> chrisseaton: ah yeah. no it will not be in parsersupport only defining the lvars is there
<chrisseaton> enebo: I still can't see that though - 'capture' doesn't find it for me - what could I search for
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<chrisseaton> enebo: ah sorry found it in allocateNamedLocals - just need to find where the values are set now...
<enebo> chrisseaton: yeah I also need to find it. I thought I had added the feature as well :) unless I only hooked up parser
<chrisseaton> enebo: you pass the relevant spec
<enebo> chrisseaton: but that is only alloc’ing the lvars in static scop
<enebo> chrisseaton: something must know that the named patterns are actually locals on the other side (e.g. execution of regexp)
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<chrisseaton> enebo: yeah - and I can't find any reference to it anywhere
<enebo> chrisseaton: Helpers.updateScopeWithCaptures
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<enebo> chrisseaton: you find real software using this?
<chrisseaton> enebo: no - I didn't know they were an unusual feature though? are they new? we're just going through the last of the RubySpec language specs and this was one
<enebo> chrisseaton: Added in 1.9.3? I think but they are not very common
<enebo> chrisseaton: ordering of regexp vs string you are matching on and also needing to be a literal makes them more uncommon
<chrisseaton> enebo: ok - thanks for helping me find that - I was looking in RubyRegexp etc and didn't think to look in Helpers
<enebo> chrisseaton: I do use them but I always get the order wrong “” =~ // vs // =~ “”
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<enebo> chrisseaton: how does Truffle++ back/implement their DirectedGraph impl?
<enebo> Adjacency lists?
<chrisseaton> enebo: you mean how is the Graal IR represented?
<enebo> chrisseaton: well I am assuming their is a directed graph in there somewhere at some point
<enebo> there
<enebo> chrisseaton: I am only asking because I have the most memory innefficient DG on the planet and I am putting it on a diet
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<chrisseaton> There's a Node object, and it has a Node predecessor and Node children - very conventional (and so doesn't do much to save space) https://github.com/OracleLabs/GraalVM/blob/master/graal/com.oracle.graal.graph/src/com/oracle/graal/graph/Node.java#L189-L193
<chrisseaton> You can see two children are inline, so that's an optimisation
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<chrisseaton> But funny you should ask this question today! We're at Google Munich this week speaking to Google compiler people, and V8 are working on a new IR, which is sea of nodes like Graal, and they were talking about how a node is composed of two parts...
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<chrisseaton> They have the graph part that is small, just references to parents and children, and it refers to a more complicated node object, which is shared where possible, and contains more info
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<enebo> chrisseaton: I might be more interested specifically in com.oracle.graal.graph.Graph but I can look at it
<enebo> chrisseaton: right now my first pass wil just be to make in and out lists on vertex share a single primitive array vs 2 HashSets which probably will be enough of a diet for the moment
<enebo> oh I see
<chrisseaton> why are they hash sets? is each edge labelled? we rely on an order convetion
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<chrisseaton> the thing with the V8 is if you have nodes which often do the same thing, like call #+ and the arity is one, you can share that info between nodes
<enebo> chrisseaton: well I think we only wanted the set behavior
<enebo> chrisseaton: just in case our CFG algo I think accidentally added the same edge twice
<enebo> chrisseaton: we label edges
<enebo> chrisseaton: which is somewhat unrelated but we could have two edges between same two vertices but still exist because they have different labels
<chrisseaton> that's ok with an ordering convention
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<enebo> I would have to study CFG and DFG algos to know whether we rely on order of edges…I did not start with a background on compilers :)
<enebo> but if we do I should probably add some specs to make sure order is preserved
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<nirvdrum> enebo: Any idea why that jruby-jars task is failing now?
<Aethenelle> wow... FFI isn't testing quite a bit of functionality...
<enebo> nirvdrum: on 1.7?
<nirvdrum> Ahh, I guess I'm just behind on the build queue.
<enebo> nirvdrum: there was/is an issue with the version renumbering process. I was letting mkristian fix it
<nirvdrum> Although http://travis-ci.org/jruby/jruby/builds/43496648 supposedly was to fix issues with jruby-jars for release and still failed that one.
<enebo> nirvdrum: I will fix it manually tomorrow if it os not done
<enebo> nirvdrum: yeah my change was fine for a release version but not one with snapshot
<nirvdrum> Maybe lucky #18 will get this smooth :-P
<enebo> nirvdrum: in any case it is nothing major and should only be 1.7 branch
<nirvdrum> I just saw the notification after the failure from my push and was working in stack order.
<nirvdrum> I'll check back on it later.
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<enebo> also travis is rendering really really weird for me
<nirvdrum> It refused to load a bit for me.
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<tarcieri> hmmm
<tarcieri> did JRuby 1.7.17 come with RubyGems 2.19?
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<tarcieri> err, sorry, 2.1.9
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<rtyler> Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory - /home/tyler/.rvm/gems/jruby-1.7.17@rubygems/bin/sudo
<rtyler> DAFUQ O_O
* rtyler wonders if rvm goofed up installing 1.7.17
<mpapis> rtyler, show me PATH
<mpapis> rtyler, no does not look like rvm fault
<mpapis> rtyler, where do you get this error?
<rtyler> I cleaned things up and I'm reinstalling to see if I can get a more concise statement of the problem
<rtyler> I'm not sure where to look for this error again to be honest
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<rtyler> I wonder if this is a freebsd related issue :(
<mpapis> rtyler, ruby -rtracer -S bundle install
<mpapis> it will be big ;)
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<rtyler> you know, this might be some new version of bundler
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<rtyler> for fuck's sake, this looks like a JRuby bug
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<rtyler> GAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
* rtyler smashes keyboard
<rtyler> confirmed jruby 1.7.17 bug
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