<diginet>
SU8 is hard for amateurs to get a hold of
<diginet>
and it's expensive
<Noxz>
yeah ..
<Noxz>
and it expires
<Noxz>
which is the biggest drawback, I think
<Noxz>
to amateurs, plus being expensive
<Noxz>
I just watched too many things about.. watches.. that I sort of changed my idea some (alot) of the mems watch
<Noxz>
well, not really.. but it certainly expanded my idea a bit
<diginet>
do you own "Watchmaking" by George Daniels?
<diginet>
you might be interested, it's a very fascinating book
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<Noxz>
diginet# I do not, but I wear an Omega Speedmaster with the Daniel's Co-Axial escapement, with a silicon balance spring... so I know who he is ;)
<diginet>
neat
<diginet>
you should check out that book, it's really neat
<Noxz>
yeah, I need to buy some things..
<Noxz>
I actually bought another watch yesterday
<Noxz>
a Girard-perragaux (I prob butchered the spelling)
<Noxz>
an older, manual wind, watch.. on ebay
<Noxz>
his protoge has a decent youtube channel on watchmaking
<Noxz>
worth a look
<diginet>
ahh thanks I'll check it out
<Noxz>
just bought the book.. thanks for the kick-in-the-butt reminder
<diginet>
I can't really afford expensive watches, lol
<diginet>
hah, no problem, enjoy
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<diginet>
Amazon is so dangerous
<Noxz>
my speedmaster was basically new, so that was expensive
<diginet>
they make it so easy to spend/waste my money
<Noxz>
I used my signing bonus
<diginet>
ahhh
<diginet>
I didn't get a signing bonus :/
<Noxz>
which happened to be right before xmas of last year, so I kind of treated myself
<Noxz>
eh.. taxes took like half of it away
<Noxz>
I was a contractor for 7 mo before turning full-time with them
<diginet>
like, as in housing?
<Noxz>
relatively simple sysadmin work
<diginet>
oh
<Noxz>
prob about 30k baremetal servers
<Noxz>
no VMs ;)
<Noxz>
each box is a dual cpu, 12+ cores each, with atleast 72gb of ram
<Noxz>
but, it's basically alot of break/fix stuff, ticket queue..
<Noxz>
I'm ready to find something else
<Noxz>
I told my boss when I turned FTE (to turn full time?) that I would give him atleast one year, and it's right about that time
<diginet>
ahh
<Noxz>
I'm in sillicon valley (*moved out here for the job) so I should bee able to make a friend that deals with chip fab.. should be able to purchase a small amount of reisst from someone ;)
<diginet>
yeah I'm just a programmer, but I'm fairly new, I've only been working in the field for about a year
<Noxz>
are you a recent college grad?
<diginet>
no, I don't have a degree
<Noxz>
I'd prefer software dev
<diginet>
technically, I don't even have a HS diploma
<Noxz>
neither do I..
<Noxz>
I have HS, and like half a year of college
<diginet>
same re: college
<Noxz>
but, it was hard enough to get my foot in the door
<diginet>
I'd like to go back to school, ideally I'd like to eventually go to graduate school
<Noxz>
trying to find something else may be hard without the required number of years exp in the field
<Noxz>
so, I may be 'stuck' in this position for some time
<Noxz>
I've thought about going bac to college
<diginet>
yeah
<Noxz>
honestly, I'd rather go to watchmaking school
<diginet>
hah
<Noxz>
in switzerland ;)
<diginet>
I've thought about going to University in Switzerland (or applying anyway)
<diginet>
originally I planned to go to Uni in Scotland, but I couldn't afford it, ended up going to a small Catholic college
<Noxz>
I applied to two colleges, Ohio State, and RIT (Rochester Inst. of Tech) .. OSU was in state (I lived like 15 mins away) so that was basically the result
<diginet>
I really don't care for programming, though I do like my coworkers and where I work, hopefully I won't be doing this the rest of my life
<diginet>
yeah
<Noxz>
are you in the US?
<diginet>
yeah
<Noxz>
okay, you just talked alot about overseas
<Noxz>
so, wasn't sure
<diginet>
well there's a reason
<diginet>
see
<diginet>
when I was in HS, I had awful grades
<diginet>
for a variety of reasons
<Noxz>
school sucks.. that's why
<diginet>
UK schools, for Americans anyway, totally ignore your HS diploma
<diginet>
or rather transcript I mean
<Noxz>
interesting
<diginet>
I had a good SAT score
<Noxz>
I have dual citizenship with Australia.. my mother is from there, I've never been
<diginet>
yeah, it's just the fact that the exchange rate and the fact that I'm not a UK citizen made everything expensive
<Noxz>
I thought for a little bit about going there
<Noxz>
yeah, citizenship is funky
<diginet>
I jokingly asked a friend of mine from London if she would marry me for dat green card
<Noxz>
heh
<diginet>
apparently doesn't work that way :/
<Noxz>
what was her answer?
<diginet>
that their laws are different
<Noxz>
heh, okay
<diginet>
beyond the fact that it would be painfully obviously a marriage of convenience, you don't get citizenship until after like 5 years of marriage or something
<Noxz>
ah
<Noxz>
so, what is your interest in cmos/mems?
<diginet>
I think open source hardware is important, and the ability to make your own chips is the only way it can meaningfully be brought to fruition
<diginet>
the problems with ICs are that they are non-interchangeable
<diginet>
consider like, for example, a car. All cars effectively do the exact same thing: drive.
<Noxz>
a friend of mine helped fund the Noveno laptop, he's all about open-everythign nowadays
<diginet>
yes, Novena is interesting
<diginet>
although the name is odd
<Noxz>
I have an electric car I am fixing up, from 1980
<diginet>
maybe it's unintentional, but it's weird that it's seemingly named after a Catholic religious practice lol
<Noxz>
and fixing up is a loose term.. I have been designing an electric motor for the past 100 years.. this is a shell to stick the new motor (working on making it) into
<diginet>
hmm neat
<Noxz>
10 years *
<diginet>
I don't drive, so car projects aren't too useful for me
<Noxz>
I dont have my license
<Noxz>
never had it
<Noxz>
I used to be a mechanic at a bicycle shop
<diginet>
neat
<Noxz>
hence, being a gear head, liking watches/horology
<diginet>
yeah
<Noxz>
and MEMS
<diginet>
I got in a bike accident a month ago, broke my jaw, chipped a ton of my teeth
<Noxz>
oh damn
<diginet>
weird, freak crash
<diginet>
yeah, not fun
<diginet>
but it's mostly healed now
<Noxz>
I have been hit by a few cars, but nothing major
<diginet>
just need to go to a dentist to get some caps
* Noxz
knocks on wood
<diginet>
well I live in small town, and we have bike lanes, the problem was some big rock in the road
<Noxz>
oh, the bike lanes around here are shit
<Noxz>
that's where all the debris is
<diginet>
I got distracted for a split second and went straight over the handlebars
<diginet>
yeah, they're normally clean here
<Noxz>
i've done that a few times
<Noxz>
but, since I somewhat recently moved.. I dont know the streets too well, so I'm usually glued to the road
<Noxz>
my eyes are normally glued*
<diginet>
my phobias are somewhat inconsistent. I'm literally terrified of being behind the wheel of a car, and yet the only time I've ever been injured on a vehicle is on a bike
<diginet>
more importantly, I don't really want to pay for insurance, gas, maintenance, and the cost of the car itself
<Noxz>
there are certain people I don't trust to drive me anywhere
<Noxz>
and not sure why they even have their license
<Noxz>
gas/oil is my thing I'm against
<Noxz>
it's not that I liked bikes, but I hated gas
<diginet>
While electric cars an improvement, I'm somewhat skeptical that they're a good solution long term. Strip mining for lithium isn't exactly environmentally friendly
<diginet>
and IMO there's nowhere near enough to replace every gas car with an electric one
<Noxz>
yeah, we'll see what the effeciency of my motor is
<diginet>
too bad fuel cells have fallen by the wayside, I guess people don't understand the hydrogen economy
<diginet>
also IMO the use of platinoids is a non-problem, fuel cells need no more than catalytic converters
<Noxz>
some people still beleive in fuel cells
<diginet>
yeah
<diginet>
unfortunately Elon Musk has this weird cult who hang on every word of his as if it were gospel and he decided they're "stupid"
<Noxz>
I never really paid too much attention to him/tesla
<Noxz>
people at work kept telling me to just buy one.. I keep telling them I've been designing my own motor for 10 years
<diginet>
how do these people afford Teslas?
<diginet>
they're super expensive
<diginet>
do people realize not everyone is super rich?
<diginet>
(I don't know about you obviously)
<Noxz>
california has a bunch of tax stuff
<Noxz>
for EV
<diginet>
oh
<Noxz>
sort of thing
<Noxz>
fed govt too
<diginet>
ahh
<Noxz>
but yeah, I was not excited about a 6-figure car
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<diginet>
but yeah, getting back to home CMOS, I just think it's more important as a proof of concept
<Noxz>
so what is your opinion on spending a bit of money to do it at home?
<diginet>
well I just want to get the concept out there
<Noxz>
like, nano-step linear movers
<diginet>
realistically, what i'd more like to see is "boutique" fabs for individuals
<diginet>
to decentralize the production chain
<Noxz>
that would be cool to go to a convenient store and they make the chip you want right then and there
<diginet>
yeah, something like that
<Noxz>
3d print it ;)
<diginet>
at least, similar to the way you can get PCBs
<diginet>
I'm personally skeptical of 3D printers
<diginet>
I feel like people who think they're going to replaces factories don't understand materials science
<Noxz>
same.. I'm actually working on a CNC to make aluminum molds for thermoplastic extrusion
<Noxz>
unless there is a good post-bake, most 3d printed objects are fairly brittle
<Noxz>
from what I've seen and read
<diginet>
yeah, I mean they for sure have their uses
<diginet>
but people forget, 3D printing means rapid *prototyping*
<diginet>
here's what I say to people
<diginet>
3D printing will no more put large factories out of business than 2D printers put book publishers out of business
<diginet>
just because I *can* print a whole book with my printer doesn't mean it's practical or economical to do so
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<SpeedEvil>
It depends.
<SpeedEvil>
Once you have a printer - if your printer can print something - the cost is very low
<SpeedEvil>
Of course - to get that to aply - you have to amortise it over lots of stuff
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