<ec>
realized i care very little about any code that isn't paws, and paws is dead
<ec>
so now i'm in school for math
<cloudhead>
hmm
<cloudhead>
my life is alright
<cloudhead>
I stopped working for other people
<ec>
oooo
<cloudhead>
I started enjoying code again
<ec>
now you work exclusively for aliens and dogs and dog-aliens?
<cloudhead>
I'm doing exclusively haskell now
<ec>
ew
<cloudhead>
yes, precisely
<cloudhead>
no I work for myself only
<cloudhead>
haskell's the only language that doesn't make me want to strangle kittens
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<alva>
i wish it was more usable for things i like. but rust isn't half bad.
<jfhbrook>
I've hated my job for at least a few months now
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<pikajude>
i've hated my job since we picked up node
<jfhbrook>
the job hunt is ultra depressing because so far everything sucks just as much
<pikajude>
yep
<pikajude>
it's quite depressing
<jfhbrook>
as you may have gathered I work in node and I'm mostly okay with that
<jfhbrook>
preferable to java, at least
<jfhbrook>
probably
<jfhbrook>
it's less the java and more the dogmatic oop from ultra-stale megacorps that I worry about
<jfhbrook>
anyways, part of the problem is because I know javascript everyone assumes I would be qualified, much less want, to do front-end, and that I would be disqualified from doing backend
<jfhbrook>
and the backend is what I want to do
<jfhbrook>
so it's incredibly frustrating
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<pikajude>
really? that's bizarre
<pikajude>
I thought node.js developer was the only job left
<alva>
there's no shortage of c/c++ stuff
<jfhbrook>
I'm too stupid for c/c++
<jfhbrook>
just straight up, my mind is too feeble
<jfhbrook>
I've accepted that
<jfhbrook>
pikajude, a lot of that stuff is "full stack" and just uses node to do server-side rendering of data from the "real backend"
<jfhbrook>
and most "serious backend" people won't touch javascript with a 30 foot pole if only because they're "too good" for node
<jfhbrook>
y'know, "not a real language" and all that other bullshit
<jfhbrook>
there are reasons to not use node but being an asshole about chosen language is, well
<jfhbrook>
it's being an asshole
<jfhbrook>
...except for ruby or java ;D but seriously
<alva>
i thought i knew c++ but it's one of those things where the more you know, the more you know that you don't know... or something
<alva>
c is at least small.
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<alva>
at least the tools are awesome. asan, tsan, static analyzers...
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<jfhbrook>
I'm used to having shitty tools
<jfhbrook>
good tools are in many ways lost on me
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<ec>
AHHH WHAT'S THE THING WITH THE STORIES
<ec>
‘something, collect, contain’
<ec>
SCP!
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<cloudhead>
alva: jfhbrook: find a platform you enjoy working with and then get a job doing that?
<cloudhead>
not disagreeing that the industry is depressing though
<cloudhead>
but I've usually been able to work with the technologies I wanted to
<cloudhead>
the depressing part was the business and social side
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<pikajude>
i have to brush up on my datastructures and algorithms
<pikajude>
do u guys have any resources you frequently use for that
<pikajude>
or have ever used even once
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<jfhbrook>
my background on all of that is embarrassingly bare
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<ec>
HOLY SHIT
<ec>
THE DALLAS PD JUST KILLED INCOMPREHENSIBLY
<ec>
“they used a robot to deliver a bomb that killed the dude, identified as Micah Xavier Johnston”
<ec>
incomprehensibly: you never told me your middle name was Xavier
<ec>
nor that you're a psycho who wants to mass-murder people but eh that's beside the point
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<alva>
cloudhead: kind of stuck at my current job doing embedded/mobile dev, because of visa, but it couldbe worese. i think this is what i enjoy the most, even if i'd like the option of doing it elsewhere.
<alva>
i also can't spell
<cloudhead>
gotcha
<cloudhead>
pikajude: I think most people make a bigger deal out of it than need be