<alexgordon>
went to indonesia, saw a wizard i.imgur.com/D22hIQA.jpg
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
did u becom frog
<incomprehensibly>
In this demo, instead of Atari games, we'll start out with something more simple: a 2D agent that has 9 eyes pointing in different angles ahead and every eye senses 3 values along its direction
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
that probably tell you something about Roomba
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
what is roomba's reward-state
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
'sucked up some dirt'
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
thats the problem with eh eye
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
one day ur like 'find the dirt' and next thing u no roomba's going outside and tracking it inside just so it can clean it up
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
dum ai
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
like this smartcar bs for instance
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ur teslas eventually gonna b like 'okay u don't want to run into things, clearly the smartest choice is to not turn on'
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
incomprehensibly: I want to post a gif of that animation, a few frames where he picks up a red blob and doesn't like it, and caption it "this is why"
<incomprehensibly>
ELLIOTTCABLE: i was going to post a clip "my son has 9 eyes"
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yesssssss
<incomprehensibly>
with 9 eye emoji
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
don't you ever talk to my 9-eyed son or his nine 9-eyed sons again
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
i herd u liek 3 eyes so I put 3 eyes in ur 3 eyes so you can train algorithmically while u train algorithmically
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<pikajude>
i don't know what's better: the job interview i just scheduled, my new LCD-2Fs, or the fact that the caterer today was the one decent Chinese place
<pikajude>
everything's coming up pika
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<ELLIOTTCABLE>
olakukielko: TEN THOUSAND TIMES BETTER. yahhhhs
<olakukielko>
is there a mobile client o
<olakukielko>
r
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
there's an app, yeah, but, woah, you've been on your phone this whole time
<olakukielko>
im really bad at typing i apologize in advance
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
doesn't matter
<olakukielko>
no ive been on pc
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
irc is very informal lol
<purr>
loling
<pikajude>
the bass on these headphones is fucking bonkers
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
pikajude: whatcha got
<pikajude>
LCD-2F
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I had Beats for a hot minute last month, after losing my Momentums
<pikajude>
hooked up to an audiogd nfb-15
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
got very very frustrated, very very fast, and returned them.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
shelled out for replacement Momentums.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
olakukielko: check out #scala, though, for your issue.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and you might want to containerize your solution, once you figure it out: install Docker, and set up <whatever commands set up the working scala environment> as a Dockerfile.
<olakukielko>
thanks
<pikajude>
or use nix!
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
that way, since it sounds like you'll have to use this often, you'll end up w/ a reproducible, reliable platform to work on top of.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
pikajude: she's dealing with some 3-year-old Google product that's unmaintained, and doesn't work with current Scala or Java or … something.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ALSO LOL FRANS THIS IS A FELLOW IIT STUDENT
<pikajude>
nix has older versions of stuff
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
hm, does it have a Java 7 OpenJDK? o_O
<pikajude>
uh, sure
<pikajude>
i mean, if it doesn't, you can just write an expr for it
<pikajude>
it won't hurt anything
<pikajude>
but i know for a fact that jdk7 is in nixpkgs
* ELLIOTTCABLE
nods
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
olakukielko: good luck! and stick around IRC: there's thousands of channels, with hundreds of thousands of devs. This (Freenode) is my first stop to solve basically any tech-related problem.
<olakukielko>
thanks!
<pikajude>
if stack overflow doesn't work
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ugh nah
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
stack overflow is a huge cesspool of misinformation
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
pikajude: DID YOU SEE INCOMPREHENSIBLY W/ AN OTTER
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I died, I died
<pikajude>
it was super cute
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I knoooowwwww
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
my heart hurts now
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
that could also be cholesterol tho.
<pikajude>
incomprehensibly, where did you get the otter
<pikajude>
can i have one
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
incomprehensibly, *are* you the otter
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
pikajude: you been playing Stellaris?
<pikajude>
i don't know what that is
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
whaaaaat
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
do you like Civ, etc?
<pikajude>
civilization? the game?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
yes?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
also: Civ 6 has me all in tatters, I'm so goddamn excited
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I tried EU4 a couple days ago, too, but jesus, that's too much for me
<pikajude>
i never played any of those games
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
you've never played civ
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
jude how, jude why, jude you poor thing
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'm not even a gamer but fuck that game is so much fucking fun
<pikajude>
i didn't play games as a kid and i kind of never got interested in them as an adult
<pikajude>
wasn't allowed any games growing up
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
there's like. 2-hour games, 10-hour games, and 40-hour games … but Civ is one of the rare 250-hour games. Like Minecraft, the Sims, SimCity …
<pikajude>
ok i lie
<pikajude>
i did play ratchet and clank growing up
<pikajude>
30 minutes a week
<pikajude>
i savored it
<cloudhead>
ELLIOTTCABLE !!
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
cloudhead!
<cloudhead>
I'm also excited about Civ
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's been a hot fucking second
<cloudhead>
I know my friend
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
pikajude: I remember when I would *viciously* anticipate the 1 hour a day I was allowed to play video-games, growing up
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'd go over to my (probably only-)friend's house, and we'd get the egg-timer from his mom
<pikajude>
yeah
<pikajude>
i got 30 minutes on saturdays
<cloudhead>
I always had infinite video game time, now look where I ended
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
the time booting up the computer and putting the disk in didn't count and that was a big deal
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Red Alert would start up, and we'd spin the timer around to 60m
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and then take turns playing
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ahhhhhhhh, good times
<cloudhead>
haha
<cloudhead>
omg red alert!!
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
literally every single day after school for like an entire year, that was my life
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
cloudhead: YESSS RIGHT!?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
dude have you tried booting it up
<cloudhead>
that was the best dude
<cloudhead>
not recently
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
game mechanics are tied to clock-speed.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it like fucking runs on Windows 8 man
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but you can't play
<cloudhead>
hahaha whattt
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
because the game loads, and then boom you're dead, the enemy has built fifty buildings and destroyed you with a blitzkrieg of tanks
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
in a millisecond
<cloudhead>
lol!
<purr>
trololol
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's hilarious
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
cloudhead: wanna see some gifs
<cloudhead>
yeah
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh I can't find it
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so disappointed
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but somebody modded Red Alert to turn the bombers into Santa Claus, and the parachute troopers into parachuting gift-boxes, last year for christmas
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it was fucking epic
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
there's a great .gif of it that's like, ALL of the nostalgia
<cloudhead>
haha
<cloudhead>
:(
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
cloudhead: are *you* Stelladdicted yet?
<cloudhead>
What's that!?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
if you *haven't* played it: do you like the civs?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
stellaris
<cloudhead>
I love them
<cloudhead>
:o
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
omg
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
omg you fuck come play stellaris w/ me
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
what's your steam name
<cloudhead>
but the problem is when I start playing civ I play like, 16h/day
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
YES I KNOW
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I HAVEN'T STOPPED PLAYING STELLARIS FOR ALMOST TWO WEEKS STRAIGHT
<cloudhead>
that's a real problem
<cloudhead>
omg
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I haven't showered today
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'm a fucking gross mess
<cloudhead>
gonna look this up
<cloudhead>
hahaha
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but I'm master of like a third of the galaxy so w/e
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I'll literally buy you a copy right now COME PLAY W/ ME
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
lol are you kidding me, would *I* play a game that's windows-only
<cloudhead>
no I mean, windows pc
<purr>
lololol
<cloudhead>
oh yeah I guess not heh
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
(actually yes, okay, fine, I would. fucking Banished is beautiful.)
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but yeah lol it's OS X-compat
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's a Paradox game
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
have you played Cities: Skylines? Or Europa Universalis? or Crusader Kings?
<cloudhead>
shit this looks serious
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
(haven't played the last, and I suck at EU, but Cities is fucking amaaaaazing)
<cloudhead>
not really no
<cloudhead>
I know about them
<cloudhead>
and EU especially
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
how about Endless Space or Endless Legends?
<cloudhead>
yeah I played endless legends
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
Stellaris is everything Endless Space *should* have been.
<cloudhead>
but was a bit too unpolished
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's like Endless Space and Civ 5 had babies
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and EU
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it has a lot of the non-combat mechanics of EU.
<cloudhead>
:o
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
diplomacy in particular is very similar
<cloudhead>
this looks like homeworld
<cloudhead>
+ EU
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
and the ethos shit, where your population will develop their own feelings and opinions and disappear right out from under you, is very similar
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ehhhhh vaguely, but not really
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's Endless Space combat.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
OMG the coolest thing tho, is how they've innovated on *movement*.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
it's not a traditional here's-some-hexes,-let's-pretend-this-is-a-board-game thing
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
there's *three* completely fucking different movement systems, and different alien species use their own
<cloudhead>
:O
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so you may be using ‘warp’, where your ships just point themselves at a star-system and slowly zoom across interstellar space towards it over like months, but you have complete freedom of movement, strategically speaking,
<cloudhead>
that's crazy
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
whereas the people you're fighting are using ‘hyperspace lanes’, where they can zoom around real fast, but are limited to pre-existing lanes in the universe, kinda like ley lines
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
so if you can block their movement by squatting on hub-systems where lots of important lanes intersect, you have a significant tactical advantage;
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
I always play as ‘wormhole’ races: you can go anywhere, and *instantly*, but one end of your transit *has* to start, or end, at a wormhole-station you build / maintain / protect
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
but once you have a station somewhere, and the means to protect it, your ships can instantaneously jump basically anywhere in its radius: even through / across rivals' territory.
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
ANYWAY LOL i like this game. >,>
<purr>
lolol
<cloudhead>
it looks quite good :D
<cloudhead>
how many hours do you have on it already?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
uh
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
idk
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
cloudhead: steamname?
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
wite goo dreeping down my steam-a
<cloudhead>
greyface
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
there's … several of those
<ELLIOTTCABLE>
whatchoor icon
<cloudhead>
james joyce
<cloudhead>
wait, my steam name is "Buck" currently
<cloudhead>
but username is greyface
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<pikajude>
i'm on a gallon of milk a day diet
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<incomprehensibly>
pikajude: wait who are you on twitter again
<pikajude>
i bet you can guess
<incomprehensibly>
ah
<incomprehensibly>
where did you see me with otter
<incomprehensibly>
ELLIOTTCABLE: the otter was at the zoo
<pikajude>
i got mentioned on facebook
<pikajude>
have you guys seen that new ipad app that simulates a vagina
<ljharb>
i don't even know how to unpack that sentence
<pikajude>
it's designed for people that don't know anything about vaginas
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<incomprehensibly>
ah facebook
<incomprehensibly>
AH i hadn't seen the comment yet