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<ja> oh hi there Hrorek
<ja> nice nickname
<Hrorek> ja, är du svensk?
<alexgordon> ja: that means "are you drunk?" in danish
<ja> hehe
<ja> Hrorek: fan inte svensk, din liten jävla
<Hrorek> ja, jeg er ikke scandinavisk men snakker jeg lite norsk
<ec> hi alexgordon
<ec> hi ja
<ec> hi purr
<purr> ec: hi!
<ec> hi Hrorek
<ec> hi ec
<ec> hi ec
<alexgordon> hi ec
<ec> what's up?
<ec> ec: I'm writing tutorial
<ec> ugh that sounds terrible
<ec> ec: it really is
<ec> ec: although it makes me feel smart
<alexgordon> "jeg lite" is some kind of beer I assume
<alexgordon> ec: it's a shame. when I was younger I had the time to build programming languages but not the knowledge, now I'm older I have the knowledge but not the time
<alexgordon> or enthusiasm really
<ec> alexgordon: omg omg
<ec> alexgordon: I know what to do
<ec> alexgordon: build a paws.
<alexgordon> lol?
<purr> lol
<ec> problem solved.
<alexgordon> with paws I have neither the knowledge nor time :P
<glowcoil> .
<ja> alexgordon: yes, jeg lite is great beer
<alexgordon> ja: what does it actually mean?
<alexgordon> sup glowcoil
<ja> Hrorek said he's not scandinavian but he likes to eat sheep heads with jeg lite
<ja> alexgordon: “jeg” is “I” and “lite” is “little”
<alexgordon> I am totally confused now
<ja> don't panic
<alexgordon> I should just upload this wiki then when I'm bored, add an entry
<alexgordon> after a few years, I'll have a programming language! :P
<alexgordon> so what it _needs_ are article classes
<alexgordon> (the wiki)
<alexgordon> like, talk page, function, language element
<alexgordon> if I write a mini-language to represent those, then I can have it autogen the forms and stuff
<ja> hahaha that sounds pretty cool, alexgordon
<ja> wait, which forms, exactly?
<alexgordon> ja: think of it like a structured wiki
<alexgordon> ja: on wikipedia there's just one form: edit the page
<alexgordon> but on a structured wiki, each page has different kinds of structured data
<alexgordon> like code, and markdown
<ja> o rite
<ja> that'd be awesome
<alexgordon> I should write a spec
<alexgordon> like ec did
<alexgordon> everything is better with a spec
<ja> yes
<ja> even people
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<eligrey> where is swooshy
<eligrey> i need to hire him for voice acting
<eligrey> don't even remember his full nick
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<pikajude> i can't believe i'm this stupid
<pikajude> how do you run a specific shell script for each of a make target's dependencies
<pikajude> I just want to iterate over all the files and install them
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<pikajude> hey do any of you guys use autotools
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<alexgordon> sup ec
<ec> sup alexgordon
<ec> I'm writing a new resume >,<
<ec> it's so fucking hard *god* I hate writing resumes
<alexgordon> a resume?
<alexgordon> going to get a job?
<ec> no, actually, a uni application asked for my resume
<alexgordon> going to college?
<ec> hopefully
<alexgordon> whatcha studying?
<ec> no idea? compsci, probably, or applied mathematics.
<ec> I barely have enough credits to place into the sophomore year, so it's not really important
* alexgordon googles sophomore
<alexgordon> ah, second year
<alexgordon> :P
<ec> alexgordon: as in, the majors aren't very different at this point, if I get in
<ec> idk I'm apprehensive, I'm so convinced no self-respecting academic program would taken
<ec> take me*
<ec> but yeah once I finish my revised resume, back to the ginormous containerization-tutorial project
<alexgordon> ec: you can't know until you try!
<ec> man coreos is so cool
<ec> alexgordon: I think you'd like coreos, even if you don't have a lot of time to dive into Random Cool Tech Things
<alexgordon> I've been doing a lot of docker
<alexgordon> but I don't know any coreos
<ec> oh? why?
<ec> CoreOS is just two really simple things: A super-light Linux distributions that basically does nothing but provide a Docker host (that is, *all* software has to be installed as containers),
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<ec> and then, since the application / dependencies / configuration are now deterministic, it goes the last mile and makes the *OS* deterministic, by making it non-writable, and upgrades in a wholesale one-go replacement, basically
<alexgordon> ec: because I suck at sysadmin :P
<alexgordon> easier to write code
<ec> (to the point where the original OS is still mounted on an old mount-point after the upgrade, so you can literally revert the upgrade perfectly)
<ec> kind of related is "etcd" and "fleetd",
<alexgordon> I am going to watch and see who wins :P
<ec> fleet being a systemd clone that uses exactly the same patterns (services as daemons, interdependencies between them, uptime management),
<ec> except it transparently does those things across (1..N) actual CoreOS machines.
<ec> so a given service can be shipped transparently to an arbitrary individual host; and then satisfy SystemD dependencies from that host.
<ec> and etcd does the same thing with system configuration, so configuration is versioned and reversible and managed across the cluster)
<alexgordon> ok but do you have a cluster?
<alexgordon> I don't
<alexgordon> god this is tedious
<alexgordon> MOAR COMBINATORS
<alexgordon> might have to use exceptions rather than monads