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<Waterfox> Heyy all, is there a way to install linux to the internal flash?
<Waterfox> Hmm, found a tutorial to try.
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<shineworld> so funny... this morning my cubieboard opened play store with updated 4.0.27 where my SGSA and Nexus 7 don't step up from 3.10.14....
<BigWhoop[DE]> :)
<shineworld> I next days (I hope for few time yet) I will busy to fix openbox so can use Android Open Accessory Mode (at now is buggy and don't works)
<BigWhoop[DE]> i have the new play store since 3-4 weeks :)
<shineworld> perhaps depend by country
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<shineworld> because I "connect" cubie to play store from zero at least 3-4 time a day due full-wipe
<matt680209> !ls
<shineworld> *times
<BigWhoop[DE]> dont think so. my other 4 android devices hasnt
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<dongs> i dont think i ever cared what version my play store was.
<dongs> i did notice google took out differential patch/updates from store and re-downloads everything again
<dongs> they used to have someshit where a 10meg app with 9.5megs of resources/images would update by only downloading the needed 500k binary diff for the app itself
<dongs> then they stopped doing that..
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<dongs> or they called it incremental updates? someshit like that
<dongs> too bad its dead now.
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<cylta> Hi! Is it possible to boot from usb-stick? (instead of sc-card?)
<user_2> cylta, no
<cylta> user_2: thank you
<user_2> yw
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<shineworld> someone tried CTS test tool with cubieboard openbox ?
<shineworld> I've saw CTS repo in sources
<shineworld> and I tried to run it but hangs
<user_2> what is CTS?
<shineworld> now works ... wonderfull
<shineworld> CTS = Compatibility Test Suite
<shineworld> I'm fixing some openbox issues so CTS would be fine
<shineworld> because is a system to automate test
<shineworld> there are a lot of fails .... in log
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<user_2> hello! beside cubieboard, someone how also a raspberrypi?
<shineworld> I. Collect dust in my desk.
<mnemoc> wasting desk space with a r-pi???!
<mnemoc> shame on you
<user_2> shineworld, go to private
<shineworld> I can't try it in the bin... :)
<shineworld> *put it
<shineworld> I've also a wandboard dualcore (in same desk) that collect dust together with rpi
<shineworld> I prefer cubie
<cylta> is there any way to run cubieboard without sc-card? like, preinstalled something and linux installed from flash?
<xenoxaos> yup
<xenoxaos> did you try googling this?
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<cylta> xenoxaos: yes(just now), and looks like I've found the answer: http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/12/09/cubieboard-unboxing-and-quick-start-guide/
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<rm> what's people's obsession with not paying 5 dollars for an SD card
<rm> what's with*
<buZz> ?
<buZz> oh yeah
<buZz> like on the ML
<buZz> i guess we are attracting the 14 yr old crowd
<\\Mr_C\\> got my cubie board today
<\\Mr_C\\> finally
<\\Mr_C\\> took almost a month to get here
<buZz> better delete all documentation
<buZz> thats pretty normal for cheapskate shipping from china
<\\Mr_C\\> well i thought they wer ein the usa and afterwards the origin was sweden
<buZz> yeah guess you didnt read anything
<buZz> sweden air mail is also in china
<\\Mr_C\\> oh
<\\Mr_C\\> i just got it assemlbed
<buZz> _all_ cubieboards come from china
<\\Mr_C\\> gotta search for installation now
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<cylta> rm: I do not see any point in SD card... they have too short lifetime. (about 10 times less, than flash)
<rm> ooh any URLs to verify that claim?
<rm> NAND vs SD card lifespan comparisons?
<cylta> sd card based on other technology, they usualyl have about 10k cycles and nand memory has about 100k cycles. will google for links...
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<cylta> Hm. they are both nand flash, but there are two technologies, SLC and MLC (single and multi level cell). SLC has about 100k and MLC has about 10k. I can't find any translation of this document to english.
<rm> and all are MLC
<rm> SLC is very expensive
<rm> even modern desktop SSD drives are MLC, with some (Samsung) moving to TLC, an even crappier technology
<cylta> hmm. then I should check which technology is my flash drive..
<rm> so the point is, reliability is about the same between SD cards and NAND
<rm> the difference is, NAND is soldered into your 50 USD device and can't be replaced
<cylta> i'm not talking about soldered nand.
<cylta> but about replaceable nand, like flash-drive
<cylta> I thought that they are SLC... if not, that's sucks =(
<cylta> Is there any way to separate SCL and MLC?
<rm> manufacturer datasheet
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<jelly-home> and then there's "enterprise MLC"
* jelly-home has a $100 SSD connected to the $50 cubie... it works quite well!
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<\\Mr_C\\> is there a way to properly shutdown the board with the preloaded android?
<\\Mr_C\\> or do i just unplug it?
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<\\Mr_C\\> is there an official remote too?
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<Yaku> \\Mr_C\\ look in the appstore for "quick boot"
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<Yaku> and as i heard the normal mele a1000/a2000 remote would work too, but i prefer a normal wireless mouse
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<\\Mr_C\\> yaku
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<Boohbah> yaku nai
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