07:06 <FromGitter> <mavu> Morning, I've been listening to the Q&A and was wondering if there is any place where I can "vote" for *not* prioritizing windows support? ⏎ I personally could not care less about windows, and I think there might be a imbalance of perception of how many people actually want to have crystal windows as a priority.

07:08 <FromGitter> <mavu> You know like the well known effect that people are mote likely to voice complaints than praise.

07:38 <FromGitter> <j8r> @mavu don't worry, for now there isn't much progress. Even if there are priorities, people mainly work on what they can/want to do.

08:02 <FromGitter> <bew> boughtly: is there a relation between Foo & Bar ? can you do a https://carc.in ?

08:02 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> @mavu The issues on Windows support are in fact by far the most liked ones. It's a very frequently requested feature. ⏎ But even if actual demand for using Windows would be low, porting to a non-posix platform is an excercise to verify that our APIs work genericly and are not fixed on posix APIs.

08:03 <FromGitter> <mavu> @straight-shoota Alright then :)

08:03 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> But it's already not a huge priority atm

08:11 <jokke> thanks again for the Q&A yesterday. One reason I'm such a crystal fanboy and promote it to every dev I know is the community. It's super welcoming, helpful and friendly. Never condescending or elitist. At least from my experience. :)

08:22 <FromGitter> <mavu> Someone also asked in chat how to get a company on the list of using crystal in production. someone can add xevit.com :)

08:22 <FromGitter> <mavu> in production since this week. fingers crossed :P

09:04 <jhass> @mavu you have no edit button at https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/wiki/Used-in-production ?

10:02 <jokke> oh hey jhass o/

10:02 <jokke> long time no see

10:09 <wuehlmaus> jokke: i think, that jhass was esp. a person that was always kind to answer questions, true example of a helpful community, thanks, jhass !

10:10 <wuehlmaus> and thanks all :-)

10:14 <FromGitter> <mavu> @jhass Oh, it did not occur to me to look for a edit button :)

10:14 <FromGitter> <mavu> thanks!

11:07 <jhass> thanks for spreading the word!

11:48 <jokke> added our company as well :)

13:28 <FromGitter> <GaryMiller> Thanks for clarifying the Windows priority. I wasn't complaining just trying to get prioritization clarification so I know if I needed to pursue other alternatives for my projects. There were several articles out last year saying how close Windows support was for Crystal. Even the single book available on Amazon (which I bought) mentioned Windows support anytime now. Congratulations on your continued

13:28 <FromGitter> ... impressive benchmarks though! Crystal continues to outperform most other languages with much higher financial backing that are well beyond version 1.0. Once you reach version 1.0 and support Windows I predict a lot of commercial success for you! And while I realize this is an OpenSource project, it is not unheard of for ma ... [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5caf40f031aec969e88ae17a]

14:26 <jokke> i forget this every time

14:27 <jokke> what's the delegate missing macro called again

14:28 <FromGitter> <kinxer> I believe it directs all method calls on an object that aren't defined for that object to a particular class or instance variable.

14:29 <jokke> yes

14:29 <jokke> that

14:29 <jokke> how is the macro called?

14:31 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://crystal-lang.org/api/0.27.2/Object.html#forward_missing_to(delegate)-macro

14:32 <FromGitter> <kinxer> https://play.crystal-lang.org/#/r/6phm

16:20 <ua> whats the default value of MAXHINCR and MAX_HEAP_SECTS?

16:20 <ua> i get an error when loading lots of data into memory to increase them

16:23 <ua> the error says to increase them *

16:40 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/issues/5610 based on this looks like around 8gb

16:46 <ua> yeah saw that one

16:46 <ua> ive increased GC_MAXIMUM_HEAP_SIZE to 32G, still crashed at around 9.5

16:47 <ua> will try to write it diffrently

17:48 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> @veelenga thought of a new possible ambea feature, or possibly stdlib Spec?

17:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> at work we use PHPUnit as our testing framework, and they came up with the concept of "Risky Tests"

17:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> which the main point would be like ⏎ ⏎ ```it "does something ⏎ var foo = 234``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5caf7e36016a930a45a1f1ce]

17:50 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> to point out tests that dont actually make any assertions

17:50 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> i.e. an `it` block w/o a `.should` or `.should_not`

17:51 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> could see something like ⏎ ⏎ ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5caf7ea4a84e0c501a15363c]

18:09 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> whoa TIL all the extra spec cli args there are

18:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> would be nice if those were displayed on `crystal spec --help`

18:19 <FromGitter> <kinxer> How did you find them?

18:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/blob/master/src/spec.cr#L69

18:31 <z64> yeah, atm its accessed through the resulting spec binary - `crystal spec -- --help`

18:33 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yea that doesnt do anything for me

18:52 <FromGitter> <veelenga> @Blacksmoke16 sounds reasonable. Be free to file an issue in the ameba repo

18:54 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> might make a forum thread first, if it would be something that would be worth having in stdlib

18:54 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> but sounds good

19:32 <z64> @Blacksmoke16 you have to run that in a project dir that has tests otherwise it won't print anything. the only thing that `crystal spec` does is automatically glob your spec files - `require "spec"` is actually what builds a spec runner binary and exposes those `--help` options etc.

19:33 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ah nice, good call

19:33 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> thanks

19:33 <z64> flags are passed to the spec runner, but the way the crystal compiler command parser works is it inteprets that `--help` first and prints the *compilers* helps then calls `exit`

19:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> gotocha

22:25 <FromGitter> <konung> Q: Is there an equivalent of Elixir's recently released LiveView & Live EEx templates for Crystal?