02:09 <VxJasonxV> hey folks, is it possible to configure cinch to *not* expect to be able to /who or /whois on an IRC network? I'm trying to use Cinch for a bot on Twitch.tv's IRC servers, and they don't respond to either.

02:12 <dominikh> no. Cinch is for IRC servers, Twitch.tv is not an IRC server if they don't even remotely implement the spec.

02:13 <VxJasonxV> well, alright then

02:14 <VxJasonxV> I wonder if everyone else I've seen just listens to join/parts (which are also delayed, messages can come from users before joins)

02:14 <VxJasonxV> It's strange, I haven't entirely figured out Twitch's IRC server yet. It seems to be the underpinning of their chat, but it's very... ... ...special.

02:15 <VxJasonxV> Guess Cinch is not for me then, thanks for the answer.

02:15 <dominikh> my guess would be that their IRC server is just a gateway, and that their underlying protocol or chat infrastructure isn't IRC at all

02:15 <VxJasonxV> it's possible

02:16 <dominikh> anyway, Cinch uses a lot of features that expect a proper IRC implementation. if all you want is to pretend that IRC consists if join/part/privmsg, then that's maybe 20 lines of generic ruby :)

02:16 <dominikh> maybe "isaac" works

02:18 <VxJasonxV> hmm. I see that on rubygems, but it appears the GitHub repository is gone

02:18 <VxJasonxV> (or private)

02:18 <dominikh> https://github.com/vangberg/isaac

02:19 <VxJasonxV> aha, thanks. Rubygems links to https://github.com/ichverstehe/isaac

02:19 <dominikh> yeah, wrong url in the gemspec :)

02:19 <VxJasonxV> pull request here I come

02:20 <dominikh> I think the project is dead

02:20 <VxJasonxV> last commits, 2011

02:20 <dominikh> I mean, it works reasonably well, but there's no active development whatsoever

02:20 <dominikh> it should be simple enough to work with Twitch ;)

02:20 <VxJasonxV> here's hoping. thanks for the info

02:20 <dominikh> good luck.

09:15 <leftylink> just had a crazy idea... instead of doing that crazysauce thing where I make three matchers...

09:15 <leftylink> why not just set the prefix to lambda { |m| m.channel.nil? ? /^!?/ : /^#{m.bot.name}: |^!/

09:16 <leftylink> gonna try it; let's go

09:16 <dominikh> that'd be a better solution, yes.

09:19 <leftylink> damn can't believe I didn't think of this before!!!

20:12 <dRbiG> leftylink: aprops last conversation: I did a class that I include instead of Cinch::Plugin which has a class method that sets up channel and private with and without prefix (among other things too)

20:12 <dRbiG> another approach