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<waxwing>
i corrected the attribution andytoshi :) they say it's an adaptor sig based atomic swap on ed25519, other coin is sia, i think there's code linked somewhere in the thread
<andytoshi>
waxwing: yeah, hyperspace is a shitcoin but (unfortunately?) they are doing some interesting wallet stuff
<andytoshi>
thanks for correcting them
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<waxwing>
it's slightly funny to say you believe that though, given the key property of such swaps :)
<andytoshi>
:P yeah exactly. i should shut up and go back to my "this could've been happening for years, there's no way to tell" stance
<waxwing>
hmm yeah it's kinda funny they posted the txids ... even if they posted the T values it wouldn't make a difference.
<gmaxwell>
in fact, the author of any transaction could create a false adaptor proof.
<waxwing>
snap :)
<andytoshi>
aw, it'd be fun to reply to them with some fake proofs from old transactions
<andytoshi>
but i don't know how to access either blockchain..
<gmaxwell>
did they publish code for this?
<waxwing>
well, if those block explorers have apis that show rawtxs, you can strip out the sigs and do it right
<andytoshi>
i assume so, it's a public fork of a public project
<andytoshi>
waxwing: yeah, it'd be quick in sage, it's only scalar math i have to do
<andytoshi>
oh, no, to get T i guess i need a scalar-mult. i can do that
<andytoshi>
it's a bit frustrating to do stuff in ed25519 in sage because i don't know how to do things with the twisted edwards representation .. but at some point i ported djb's python code so i have some basic functionality
<midnightmagic>
if you need some early block keys I can run super early proofs for you
<andytoshi>
midnightmagic: with this we don't even need keys :P (well, for the ECDSA variant we might, i haven't studied that protocol)
<midnightmagic>
\o
<midnightmagic>
make one from satoshi then lol
<waxwing>
unfortunately for CSW, andytoshi has not yet found a deniable protocol to move the coins without even making a transaction
<gmaxwell>
obviously satoshi was scriptless swapping with hal...
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