#bitcoin-wizards on 2018-07-13 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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10:13 <waxwing> aj, "reveal the extra conditions you have to satisfy (s), satisfy them, and provide a signature the key "P-s*G2" - i didn't understand (a) is that missing a word (provide a signature the key), (b) i assume you mean a NUMS G_2 for a binding commitment (c) you can't sign against the key A - sG_2 if G_2 is nums and s != 0, so i'm not sure what you mean? (prob relates to (a))

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14:59 <waxwing> did people here know about this? https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/872

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19:07 <maaku> waxwing: yes, that's the work bulletproofs was based on

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19:10 <waxwing> maaku, no, it's not, it's after that

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19:10 <waxwing> bulletproofs was based on the bootle '16 paper

19:11 <waxwing> https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/263 (based on - but it's a significantly different thing)

19:11 <maaku> [BCG`17b] in https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/1066.pdf

19:11 <maaku> both are cited

19:13 <waxwing> yes but that's just an example, it's not the basis of bulletproofs

19:14 <maaku> i think we're talking past each other

19:16 <maaku> where i come from at least if a prior idea played a part in the creation of your new idea, you cite it in the paper. all citations play a role in ideogenesis

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21:19 <kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/layer2-summit/2018/scriptless-scripts/

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