<codeworkx>
gimme their Ip adresses and i'll nuke all of them out of the interwebz
<codeworkx>
with no way back in
<a3Dman>
I can't read german, and not sure which comments, but I'm glad that I will finish midterms after days :]
<squadzone>
Lol
<DooMMasteR>
codeworkx: it violates § 44 BDSG
<DooMMasteR>
in Germany one could be punished for the way that feature works
<a3Dman>
from a little reading, appears that drama happened about these stats
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<DooMMasteR>
I was just consultated by an advocate and he more or less stated that in Germany this would be a nogo in the current way
<codeworkx>
DooMMasteR: we're not in germany
<codeworkx>
DooMMasteR: if it's the case, then you wouldn't be able to activate any android phone
<DooMMasteR>
yes, but even someone providing it on a mirror in Germany might be punishable
<DooMMasteR>
it is most unlikely since someone would have to ge tthe attention of a federal prosecutor
<DooMMasteR>
codeworkx: any Android phone comes with a paper in the package that states the needed information
<codeworkx>
websites are telling me that they're using Google Analytics after they got my data.
<DooMMasteR>
aside from that, since when do android phones nee activation?
<codeworkx>
since i have to enter the website to read the information ;-)
<codeworkx>
AND NO FUCKING IDIOT IS COMPLAINING
<DooMMasteR>
:P
<codeworkx>
i'm srsly at war now
<codeworkx>
with those complainers
<a3Dman>
it's easy, take it or leave it, no need for wars or useless drama.
<DooMMasteR>
lol :P I am just complaining about the implementation :P not the basic data sent to CM
<DooMMasteR>
I think the data is fine and might make work a lot easier, and might also throw a light on the grey numbers of how many people opted out in the past
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<DooMMasteR>
atm we should also consider that is is VERY easy do manipulate the data
<DooMMasteR>
giving a device a "statistical" userbase of a tenthousand users is a mere question of minutes :P
<codeworkx>
DooMMasteR: try it
<DooMMasteR>
nope
<DooMMasteR>
why would I mess up the data :P
<DooMMasteR>
and I don't want my whole /23 blocked :P just because too many "phones" are on it :P
<a3Dman>
I missed a lot of drama in the last 2 days...
<DooMMasteR>
:P
<codeworkx>
DooMMasteR: no. i would have -2ed it
<DooMMasteR>
:P
<DooMMasteR>
codeworkx: I also think it is not really the right way
<DooMMasteR>
but we should at least switch the source for the unique ID
<DooMMasteR>
is is not ok to just md5 the IMEI… and then call it one way :P
<cdesai>
Hash it more then
<DuperMan>
your opinion (or any) is more drama fuel
<cdesai>
submit a patch
<DooMMasteR>
lol that does not make it better :P
<cdesai>
I know, you know, others wont
<DooMMasteR>
cdesai: the patch is not the problem it would break with curren stats and that is a thing for Steve to decide
<cdesai>
and there isn't any other unique source
<DooMMasteR>
yes, we shoud seriously consider anroid_ID
<cdesai>
regenerated on data wipe
<cdesai>
which happen often
<DooMMasteR>
a simple high pass filter on the raw data would eliminate such users who did wipe a lot
<DooMMasteR>
cdesai: happens often is relative, since we can easily filter those often wipes
<DuperMan>
what are you 1/x'ing out?
<DooMMasteR>
?
<DuperMan>
filtering away. I missed teh dramaz
<DooMMasteR>
ahh ok
<DooMMasteR>
whne using andoid_ID the problem occurs that any data wipe will create a new anroid_ID
<DooMMasteR>
one would need to filter those reports which fly in only once or twice or not over the period of say 2 weeks
<DuperMan>
well, more passes=less fast
<DooMMasteR>
more passes?
<DuperMan>
checking anything against any db
<DooMMasteR>
ahh ok, that… yeha but it would just take it from 1minute to maybe 50minutes
<DuperMan>
"just" does not fit
<DuperMan>
wouldn't corelate to current severity of problem
<DooMMasteR>
hashing the whole range of IMEIs which come in question for an Android device is quite quickly done
<DooMMasteR>
about 500*10^6 will cover about 90% of all phones
<bealtine>
get going and do it or stfu
<DooMMasteR>
bealtine: as said that is a backend problem
<DuperMan>
will arrive at square one, pragmatically. hence "how things are"
<bealtine>
do it and prove it
<DooMMasteR>
koush agreed but it seems to be more of a problem to implement on his end
<bealtine>
do it
<DuperMan>
my pupils just hit the floor
<DuperMan>
nifty
<DooMMasteR>
bealtine: hashin all IMEIs… no problem… fire up ocl-hashcat on any highend GPU and it wil push you ~5GHashes/s
<DuperMan>
fancy way of saying "I wiped and restored and getting android system force closes all over"
<cdesai>
the stats server is open FWIW
<DooMMasteR>
using tools like hashcat is no rocket science anymore :P
<bealtine>
either you prove it or shut up
<bealtine>
it's annoying
<DooMMasteR>
cdesai: but the data is not
<DuperMan>
relax bealtine. he's giving large enough targets for me to practice on. me
<bealtine>
so when you're done come back and babble incoherently
<DuperMan>
trollol. "but the data is not annoying" >>
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<Yappy>
can i type in any directory/file into /system/etc/custom_backup_list.txt so when i flash a new nightly, the list of files in that txt wont get overwritten?
<Yappy>
want to do this because i have a custom camera sound and dont want to lose it after every nightly flash