havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 3.0 release announcement: https://goo.gl/SsAhv
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<shevy> I got a good first april suggestion
<postmodern> if you're parsing time/dates in a library, should one use Time.parse or DateTime.parse?
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<shevy> the addition of "intend Foo"... which combines include and extend!
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<smathy> postmodern, depends whether you want a Time or DateTime object, ready the start of http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.3.0/libdoc/date/rdoc/DateTime.html
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<mr_oh> hmm
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<mr_oh> freenode via phone is not so good
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<shevy> freenode via phone on first april!
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> # Sanity
<shevy> I am glad for this comment
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<gizmore> shevy: what do you think? ... useful?
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<gizmore> shevy: please note that the 3 bottom funcs are ice dancers
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havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: http://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.3.0; 2.2.4; 2.1.9: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on https://gist.github.com || logs @ http://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby/
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<josephan_> So all my classes live in separate files in the same directory, and are all under the module namespace. How should I make it so that the constants in the module are accessible by the classes in seperate files and their tests?
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<shevy> gizmore lol I am way too scared to check it out... I tried ponycorns before yesterday ... and I think it requires unicode so I only saw some colours and weird chars... ok the name is ponysay http://erkin.co/ponysay/
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<smathy> josephan_, put the constants into one file, can just be a module file, doesn't have to have a class, and require that file anywhere the constants are needed.
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<josephan_> smathy, oh perfect! Thank you! Sorry I was tabbed out I just saw your message. Have a great day.
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<smathy> Np.
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<Ox0dea> Is this Nobu? http://lgtm.in/i/I4vN7PdRp
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<sudomarize> can someone explain what macros are?
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<brent_> I'm having trouble w/ this program, It looks like the @touched_pos hash is storing a list of Fixnums instead of instances of nodes representing a nodes children. can't seem to figure out how the hash is getting pushed a fixnum. https://gist.github.com/brentgsw/c1dffb36f91ae781c6749a536b9178a7
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<havenwood> sudomarize: Ruby has no macros. It's a compile-time thing. I'd suggest taking a look at Elixir and Crystal macros.
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<sudomarize> havenwood: ah ok. I guess i'm wondering what macros are in general
<Radar> ?g macro
<ruby[bot]> Radar: I don't see no macro, whom should I tell about g?
<Radar> welp I tried
<havenwood> :)
<sudomarize> i always hear about macros, but never know what people are referring to
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<sudomarize> it's programmaticaly generating code, isn't it?
<havenwood> sudomarize: Maybe try the Crystal link above first and see if you grok it?
<sudomarize> ok
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<havenwood> Or maybe the Elixir docs are better in this case?
<havenwood> I'm not sure.
<Radar> [15:04:44] <sudomarize>it's programmaticaly generating code, isn't it?
<Radar> Close enough
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<havenwood> sudomarize: Like a general way to change the code's abstract syntax tree, whatever the syntax, at compile-time.
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<baweaver> Lisp?
<havenwood> sudomarize: Matz always has a witty retort at RubyConf when asked if he'll ever add Macros.
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<havenwood> Q: Will Ruby 3 have macros?
<Radar> And generics too probably
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<Radar> and it will compile down to machine code
<Radar> and it will be 5x faster than php
<baweaver> Radar: 6x
<havenwood> A: Short answer "No," long answer "No Way."
<baweaver> has to be a multiple of 3
<havenwood> That was 2014 ^
<havenwood> I think it gets asked every year, at least in jest.
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<havenwood> A tradition.
<baweaver> Well, he already mentioned it this year
<baweaver> in his Ruby 3 features discussion: https://goo.gl/SsAhv
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<havenwood> baweaver: aaaah, snap
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<shevy> he is doing it the sneaky and clever way
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<shevy> he waits until crystal has it all smoothened out
<shevy> then he grabs it and assimilates it into ruby!
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<rindolf> Hi all.
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<shevy> hey gandalf!
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<rindolf> shevy: THIS. MEANS. WAR!!!!
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<baweaver> No no
<baweaver> If you're going to do the lines, do them right
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<shevy> this ... is ... sparta?
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<baweaver> !kick shevy
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> the bot speaks to me
<shevy> ah if I would have known that before, we could have set up the bot with an april message
<baweaver> You'll find plenty of that in the pit
<shevy> "ruby[bot]> Your behavior was considered" haha
<baweaver> there must be a kick when someone says such lines
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<roelof> How can I check if a character is in a range . I tried : (!word[1].start_with? ('a','e','i','o','u')) but then I see runtime errors on the first "," ?
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<smathy> roelof, no spaces between method name and open paren in ruby.
<roelof> thanks,
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<arup_r> We have File::basename. so File.basename("/home/gumby/work/ruby.rb") #=> "ruby.rb", but when I have File.new("/home/gumby/work/ruby.rb").what_method will give me the name of the file?
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<arup_r> for now I did like, file = File.new("/home/gumby/work/ruby.rb"); File.basename(file.path) .. and it worked. Let me know if better way to get it..
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<smathy> arup_r, `f = Pathname.new "/home/gumby/work/ruby.rb"` and then you can `f.basename` and `File.new f`
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<arup_r> smathy: thanks. I forgot about the lib. :D
<smathy> Can even just `f.open` I think.
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<chrislansing> hi my code isn't working http://sh.st/Y8j6Y
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<mr_oh> stuck as heck
<chrislansing> mr_oh: have you checked out this: http://sh.st/Y8j6Y
<chrislansing> it's a handy resource to help you get unstuck
<chrislansing> i use it all the time
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<mr_oh> nope
<chrislansing> check it out :)
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<mr_oh> check out addware?
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<chrislansing> it's a short link but the content is great
<chrislansing> it helps support site authors
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<forcer> !ops
<ruby[bot]> forcer: ops currently in #ruby: adaedra, aredridel, havenwood, My_Hearing, Radar, apeiros, drbrain, jhass, ljarvis, miah, ruby[bot] and workmad3
<forcer> chrislansing is spamming an ad link to meatspin.com
<chrislansing> oh sorry i meant to paste this link http://sh.st/Y8b6V they look so similar
<mr_oh> !seen mr_oh
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<My_Hearing> !troll chrislansing
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<mr_oh> forcer: Yep, I'm not quite that dumb. (pretty dumb, but I knew what was up...)
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<mr_oh> What a dick.
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<Ox0dea> Mon_Ouie: Is there a story to your nick?
<Mon_Ouie> I wanted to pick something unusual, so I picked something with a space and a non-ascii character (ï). Then I just adapted it for IRC.
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<forcer> mr_oh: I was just letting the ops know why I called :-)
<mr_oh> forcer: I'm thankful. I was calling chrislansing a dick.
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<forcer> :-)
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<ruurd> OK help me please how on earth can I get rid of the libv8 dependency. Every time I want to use it it breaks building the native extensions. What is that? A gaping quality problem?
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<workmad3> ruurd: stop using therubyracer or the ruby less gem?
<ruurd> can I replace rubyracer somehow?
<workmad3> ruurd: depends on what you're using it for
<ruurd> to be able to use less
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<workmad3> ruurd: in which case, not if you want to keep using ruby
<ruurd> can one instruct the less gem to use rubyrhino?
<workmad3> therubyrhino is for jruby
<ruurd> Ah. Clear.
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<workmad3> and less needs either therubyracer on MRI or therubyrhino on jruby... it can't use node.js or other external JS runtimes last time I checked
<ruurd> that's a pity because for as long as I have been doing rails it's a PITA
<workmad3> yeah... I avoid using less for that reason :)
<ruurd> sass not using it then?
<workmad3> nope
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<ruurd> workmad3 I'm using OSX and when I have a look at brew it says v8 is version 4.9.something
<ruurd> While libv8 is 3.16.something
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<ruurd> Shouldn't they be roughly the same to work together?
<workmad3> ruurd: latest seems to be 4.5.95.5 in rubygems: https://rubygems.org/gems/libv8
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<ruurd> why then pull in such an old version?
<workmad3> ruurd: no idea... could be a locked dependency in your Gemfile.lock?
<ruurd> Killed the lockfile.
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<workmad3> or it could be therubyracer is locked to an ancient version because it hasn't been updated in ages
<ruurd> (if it does not work force it if it breaks it needed replacement anyway)
<workmad3> ruurd: personally, I prefer to never delete Gemfile.lock... if I'm curious about something not updating, I find opening it and searching for that gem to be more useful (as the lockfile will list version restrictions underneath the gem they're a dependency of :) )
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<ruurd> drats this is one of the few experiments that is not in git.
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<apeiros> !spam Guest_98765
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<apeiros> I suggest not to click the link
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<steve> hey, i did "gem install bundler" and it seems to be working, but when i do "gem list" i don't see bundler's dependencies (e.g. mustache) installed
<steve> any idea what i'm missing?
<steve> oh, maybe they're development dependencies
<steve> mustache (= 0.99.6, development)
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<tom39291> I want to learn Ruby. I know multiple other languages (Python, JS, Scala). Can anyone recommend a suitable resource for learning Ruby that doesn't spend pages explaining if/while/OOP/etc.
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<steve> tom39291: hold
<steve> tom39291: focus is on how to do things in a ruby way
<steve> tom39291: also https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/ruby/ for a quick syntax lesson
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<tom39291> steve: Thanks. I'll look at those.
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<ruurd> workmad3 ISTM that clang 7.3.0 broke a bunch of shit
<amincd> hi, how do I use the irb bot here?
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<n1colas> Hello
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<amincd> p "test"
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<amincd> puts "test"
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<amincd> hsh = {"a" => 1, "b" => 2, "c" => 3}
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<amincd> >> hsh = {"a" => 1, "b" => 2, "c" => 3}
<ruby[bot]> amincd: # => {"a"=>1, "b"=>2, "c"=>3} (https://eval.in/546767)
<steve> tom39291: :)
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<roelof> Can someone help me with this problem : https://gist.github.com/rwobben/f27dc15ed4b5204d90c7c017c888bd93
<amincd> >> p Time.new.round(2).iso8601(3)
<ruby[bot]> amincd: # => undefined method `iso8601' for 2016-04-02 13:50:05 +0000:Time (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/546771)
<apeiros> roelof: do |word| {
<amincd> how do I use the iso8601() method?
<apeiros> you have to decide which one you use - either do, or {, not both
<apeiros> amincd: require 'time'
<amincd> apeiros: thanks
<roelof> apeiros: thanks, another time saved my day
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<greengriminal> How do you use Regexp with a gloabl modifier. on the ruby docs: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.3.0/Regexp.html#method-c-new it supports: Regexp::EXTENDED, Regexp::IGNORECASE, and Regexp::MULTILINE should there not be one for Regexp::GLOBAL?
<benzrf> greengriminal: you use gsub instead of sub
<greengriminal> cool
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<shevy> If I redefine an existing method, I will get a warning such as: "warning: method redefined; discarding old initialize", such as in https://gist.github.com/shevegen/4c1bd71facbf7219133d8f5da3a86929 - is there a simple way to modify an existing method without incurring such a warning?
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<shevy> I can use undef_method to get rid of an already existing method, but can I get a copy of an old method too?
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<shevy> ah I was wrong
<shevy> alias seems to copy anyway
<shevy> now I narrowed it down to this "foo.rb:22: warning: undefining `initialize' may cause serious problems" hahaha
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<smathy> shevy, !fake - your code works fine with no error when pasted into a pry session.
<smathy> Oh, not in that channel.
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<smathy> Don't use fake code, it doesn't help us understand the problem.
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<smathy> And/or if that code gives you an error, which ruby version?
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<shevy> smathy fake?
<shevy> smathy have you run with warnings enabled?
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<smathy> Oh, no, I didn't realize you were running in warnings mode, you must have mentioned that before I joined.
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<smathy> (or does this channel view `-w` as some sort of "proper" way to run the interpreter? I'm still new here)
<shevy> Hmm I actually forgot to mention that; I also don't see who joins or leaves, sorry
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<chridal> So where does one ask a question like this? I don't know.
<chridal> We've got a Ruby stack and I need to write some sort of algorithm to rank content that will be displayed in a feed.
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<chridal> I will be using Postgres, Redis and Neo4J with different approaches to determine what content might be interesting for you
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<chridal> Here's my question; have any of you solved anything like this with Ruby before, and in that case; do you have any resources you'd like to point out?
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<chridal> It's a social network and we have different interactions like viewing content, writing comments, and following users
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<smathy> chridal, just google ranking algorithms.
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<chridal> Cheers. Didn't think about that.
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<redasus> hwy
<redasus> hey*
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<adaedra> hey
<redasus> I've installed rails, passenger and nginx on an aws ec2 ubuntu server. I've followed the tutorials and started the nginx server. but I'm getting a 404 error when I try to go to the home page.
<adaedra> ?rails
<redasus> yeah
<smathy> Maybe you want #rubyonrails
<adaedra> ugh, bot's down again.
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<jakelovesvivi> redasus copy in your config file?
<adaedra> APEIROS!
<redasus> nginx config file ?
<adaedra> redasus: you may want to discuss that in #RubyOnRails.
<jakelovesvivi> Yes, its in /etc/nginx
<smathy> jakelovesvivi, it's off topic, head on over to #rubyonrails if you want to talk about it with redasus
<jakelovesvivi> Allright
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<Guest23288> Hi! Is anybody here know platforms to stream coding?
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<Guest23288> like twitch but for coding
<adaedra> I found one once
<Guest23288> ?
<redasus> this is my nginx.conf file
<smathy> redasus, what's wrong with you?
<smathy> redasus, go to #rubyonrails
<adaedra> Guest23288: livecoding.tv it seems.
<jakelovesvivi> Im trying to install ruby 2.x, I'm using mint cinnamon and apt-get gives me 1.9.8, I'm a huge linux noob and would like advice, I suppose I'm going to try using a tarball, don't know how yet, but if anybody has an easy fix it would be appreciated
<redasus> smathy, okay :)
<redasus> use rvm
<benzrf> jakelovesvivi: apart from rvm, chruby and ruby-install would work
<adaedra> 1.9.8?
<smathy> jakelovesvivi, yeah, use one of the ruby version tools, although I'd recommend chruby over rvm.
<Guest23288> redasus: It's not stream service
<smathy> Guest23288, they weren't talking to you.
<Guest23288> oh ok
<Guest23288> adaedra: have a link?
<smathy> Guest23288, other than the one she already gave you?
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<jakelovesvivi> thanks guys
<Guest23288> smathy: which one?
<smathy> [15:11:17] @adaedra:Guest23288: livecoding.tv it seems.
<Guest23288> yes, this good one, I missed it
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<maranza> Hello everyone
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<Begi> Hello, maranza
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<maranza> any simple app suggestions for a Ruby begginer ??
<Begi> What's your level ?
<maranza> begginer...i want to learn it by actually app development...i have programming background though.
<smathy> puts "Hello world!"
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<adaedra> ?links
<adaedra> ugh.
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<adaedra> http://ruby-community.org/pages/links — maranza: there's some websites with exercices on them to train yourself, like exercism and the koans.
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<moh0852> #rubyonrails
<adaedra> It's the next door.
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<xpt> /j #rubyonrails
<xpt> /j <- this one helps a little :)
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<moh0852> ok,sorry i was wrong
<adaedra> np.
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<smathy> Didn't want to go to #ror after all :)
<shevy> they must play unicode hangman there
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<smathy> All their answers are just `render partial: "answer"`
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<shevy> lol
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<shevy> yay! take his power away!
<adaedra> Tab key, why you fail me
<adaedra> anyway, g'night.
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<gemking> hello
<gemking> anyone here know C programming?
<gemking> I tried pasting my program in the chat but I got banned by accident since I thought the person trying to help me wanted me to put it in the topic
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<smathy> ...so you thought "I know what I'll do, I'll ask about C programming in some other totally unrelated channel...." - ffs!
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