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perry >
anyone know a better pcap gem than ruby-pcap? ruby-pcap seems to suffer from packet loss...
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mclee >
haven't used it myself though, but it seems more updated than ruby-pcap
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lianj >
mclee: it works nice
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zzak_ >
perry: capp
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hahuang65 >
Is there anyway around a Marshal.dump(obj).bytesize and getting the same byte size some other way? Having this weird issue where I can insert an object into Rails.cache, but when I try to delete it, it has a File object attached to it, which causes Marshal.dump to vomit...
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whitequark >
that's surely weird
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hahuang65 >
whitequark: isn't it?
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rickhull >
anyone familiar with extended regexp? /foo/x
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rickhull >
i get a syntax error in the middle of one where i start a capture on one line, specify some subexpressions on the next lines, then close the capture paren on the subsequent line
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whitequark >
rickhull: gist it
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rickhull >
trying a new approach. /x does seem fraught with peril however
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rickhull >
for example, don't use '/' in a comment
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whitequark >
rickhull: use %r{}x
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whitequark >
so / won't be a special symbol
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rickhull >
ok, that should solve the one
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whitequark >
rickhull: hahaha
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<
whitequark >
I know why your latest gist doesn't work
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<
whitequark >
but I wanna brag
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rickhull >
grip it and rip it :P
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<
whitequark >
gem install parser --pre; ruby-parse -E foo.rb # foo.rb being your gist
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whitequark >
you'll understand it in no time
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rickhull >
how bout you gist the output ;)
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whitequark >
-E, of course, being --explain :p
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whitequark >
well ok, you boring one
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whitequark >
it won't have the nice coloring!
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<
whitequark >
tl;dr: # in regexps is only interpreted by regexp parser; ruby's parser just captures it as a part of regexp source.
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rickhull >
could it be a "bug" since it's trying to parse a comment?
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whitequark >
ruby's parser does not interpret regexps, though.
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whitequark >
think of // or %r{} as a special kind of string which automatically executes Regexp.new() with the content.
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rickhull >
i'd still consider a design bug, that /x cannot be implemented properly
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rickhull >
should be documented, i think, at least
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rickhull >
happy to file a ticket
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<
whitequark >
ruby's parser is already insane enough
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whitequark >
we
*really* shouldn't have another weird corner case in it.
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rickhull >
yeah i'm not suggesting to edit ruby's parser
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rickhull >
no doubt
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rickhull >
but i would still document that comments using /x are parsed and will result in potentially unexpected behavior
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rickhull >
and to use %r{} to help mitigate
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whitequark >
sure, sounds like a good idea
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rickhull >
could probably come up with another problematic comment char when using %r{}
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whitequark >
well, that would be unbalanced }
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<
whitequark >
balanced {} are fine.
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rickhull >
ok so yeah, if i used %r{} then a commented end brace would have same behavior?
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rickhull >
expected (not same) behavior with %r{}
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whitequark >
a commented, unbalanced end brace, yes
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rickhull >
hm, maybe not
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rickhull >
getting two different results in different pry sessions
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<
Newbie0086 >
can someone help me , i install feed_tools but it does'not work
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whitequark >
add a magic encoding comment to your code
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Newbie0086 >
what the magic encoding...
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whitequark >
# encoding:utf-8
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whitequark >
at the first line
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<
Newbie0086 >
i have added
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<
Newbie0086 >
#encoding:utf-8
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<
Newbie0086 >
require 'rubygems'
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<
Newbie0086 >
require 'feed_tools'
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<
Newbie0086 >
whitequark: have any idea?
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Newbie0086 >
when i installing FeedTool I found something wrong ,oops ,maybe feedtools too old
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whitequark >
not sure
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Newbie0086 >
thanks any
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<
yorickpeterse >
morning
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<
Newbie0086 >
this symbol means what?
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<
Newbie0086 >
its time to Dinner
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<
Newbie0086 >
now 4:00 pm
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<
Newbie0086 >
i want to make email spoofing by ruby but failed
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yorickpeterse >
Newbie0086: stop pasting markov chains in #ruby-lang
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<
yorickpeterse >
this isn't ruby_ebooks
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zzak_ >
injekt: hi!
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injekt >
zzak_: what's on the agenda for this evening?
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<
yorickpeterse >
what we do every evening
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<
yorickpeterse >
trying to take over the world
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<
injekt >
pinky and the brain brain brain brain brain brain brain brain
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<
yorickpeterse >
in unrelated news, fuck maven
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<
andrewvos >
Oh yeah
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andrewvos >
Don't you mean mvn
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<
andrewvos >
mmm ven
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<
yorickpeterse >
the Java build tool that can't actually build stuff
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<
yorickpeterse >
because instead it bitches about something stupid
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. it now seems to
*insist* that plugins have a version requirement specified
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<
injekt >
I write my maven in nokogiri
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<
andrewvos >
I write my nokogiri in maven
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<
yorickpeterse >
also fuck the new github repo layout
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yorickpeterse >
They got rid of the single most useful URL: git read-only links for cloning
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yorickpeterse >
instead it's now just HTTPs, SVN (lol) and SSH if you have write access
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injekt >
it's still read only if you dont own it
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yorickpeterse >
and as always there's not really a place to bitch about this other than on Twitter
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yorickpeterse >
injekt: yes, but I'd like to use the Git protocol instead of http
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yorickpeterse >
mostly just personal preferences
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injekt >
sure but if they had all the urls there people would be pissed off too
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injekt >
I dont mind it, but for me github isn't for reading code, it's for managing my project. I have my code locally to read it
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injekt >
they made reading my code on github easier, and managing my project harder
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yorickpeterse >
I don't like how the sidebar collapses on anything but the project dashboard
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yorickpeterse >
lol
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yorickpeterse >
not sure if trolling
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: "What's the difference between ant and maven? The creator of maven apologized."
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: I think trolling.
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<
whitequark >
but that's easy to reply to without inflaming.
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<
whitequark >
i.e. "classes are about organizing your code, and nothing more."
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<
zzak_ >
injekt: asakusarb and drinks
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<
zzak_ >
lol i almost wrote that as
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<
zzak_ >
drbrain inks
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<
yorickpeterse >
whitequark: lol
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yorickpeterse >
I saw a good talk yesterday about OO and such
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<
yorickpeterse >
(local Ruby meetup)
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<
yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: what's the eta on it?
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<
zzak_ >
controller specs sux
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<
zzak_ >
too much troll
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<
andrewvos >
yorickpeterse: GOOD JOKE I AM LAUGHING OUT LOUD
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<
yorickpeterse >
My work here is done
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<
yorickpeterse >
Remember, if you need a good pun just light the pun signal
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* yorickpeterse
runs off in to the night
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<
yorickpeterse >
even though it's 11:14 and sunny
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<
yorickpeterse >
This is why I fucking hate cloning over https:
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<
yorickpeterse >
Username:
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<
yorickpeterse >
IT'S A FUCKING PUBLIC REPOSITORY
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: your answer is... useless
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<
yorickpeterse >
que?
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<
whitequark >
or maybe not
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<
whitequark >
I wonder if I should learn Simula...
09:34
<
yorickpeterse >
is it actually still used?
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<
whitequark >
not really
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<
whitequark >
horrible syntax
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: but, Smalltalk has drawn its OO from Simula.
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<
erikh >
it's almost like you have both so you can use both
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<
yorickpeterse >
lol UML
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<
whitequark >
TurkeyAdapter
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* whitequark
headdesks
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<
whitequark >
I can't imagine anyone discussing this with a straight face.
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<
erikh >
FartAdapter
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<
erikh >
+bonus_content()
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<
yorickpeterse >
AbstractFartInterfaceFactoryAdaptorFactoryGenerator
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<
tbuehlmann >
+setOdor
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<
yorickpeterse >
+getAbstractFartInterfaceFactoryAdaptorFactoryGeneratorGenerator()
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<
yorickpeterse >
method names should be self documenting
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* yorickpeterse
runs
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<
whitequark >
erikh: :D
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<
yorickpeterse >
import org.apache.commons.httpclient.methods.StringRequestEntity;
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<
yorickpeterse >
haha java
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<
yorickpeterse >
also lol at empty catch() blocks
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<
yorickpeterse >
DocumentBuilderFactory factory = DocumentBuilderFactory.newInstance();
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yorickpeterse >
DocumentBuilder builder = factory.newDocumentBuilder();
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<
yorickpeterse >
hahahaha
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<
yorickpeterse >
I'm just very tempted to rewrite this in Ruby because really all it does is POST shit to a webservice
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yorickpeterse >
the actual logic is like 20 LOC
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<
yorickpeterse >
the rest is just Java boilerplate
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* whitequark
has insomnia
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* whitequark
is reading MSDN
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<
whitequark >
it helps.
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<
whitequark >
for example, it is a good idea to read through the description of every memory management function in Windows.
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* whitequark
is at HeapSetInformation
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<
mdedetrich >
assuming you call some method like this
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<
mdedetrich >
do_stuff(Test)
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<
mdedetrich >
where Test is a class
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<
mdedetrich >
how do you detect, inside do_stuff, is actually a class reference (and not a variable)
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<
whitequark >
mdedetrich: classes and variables do not belong to the same domain
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<
whitequark >
you probably meant a regular object.
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<
whitequark >
def do_stuff(klass); if klass.is_a? Class; # do something; end; end
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<
mdedetrich >
whitequark: thanks
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<
mdedetrich >
that worked
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<
mdedetrich >
also what is the typical ruby collection that is an unordered array (or list)
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<
mdedetrich >
nvm, got it, ruby has set
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<
kke >
can i convert pathname to regular io somehow?
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<
kke >
i got a method that takes content_or_readable as argument and pathname lacks things like .eof? but has .read
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kke >
oh, to_io, maybe that works
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<
kke >
sounds too easy
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<
jacktrick >
^said everyone new to ruby ever
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<
kke >
yes, it was awesome in the beginning
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<
kke >
"would be cool if it would work like this" -"wow, it does"
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<
kke >
ah, actually it didn't, to_io was IO's method, not Pathnames
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<
kke >
now how come pathname doesn't have .eof? but has .read
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<
lianj >
because eof? would suggest its already an opened io instance of some sort
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<
yorickpeterse >
kke: a pathname to IO?
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<
yorickpeterse >
You mean just a string containing the filepath?
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<
kke >
yeah, seems so, it uses IO.read instead of having an io open already
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<
yorickpeterse >
to_s
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<
yorickpeterse >
>> require 'pathname'; Pathname.new('/foo').to_s
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<
kke >
yeah looks like i'll need to handle that differently than passing a file/io/stringio because i want to read it buffered
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<
yorickpeterse >
I'm probably misunderstanding but from what I know you cant convert a Pathname instance to an IO instance
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<
yorickpeterse >
at least not out of the box
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<
rolfb >
yorickpeterse: any objects you can send a message with the pathname to do that for you?
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<
kke >
yeah, File.open
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<
yorickpeterse >
rolfb: maybe IO and friends as such can take Pathname objects, not sure
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<
kke >
but actually i realized i can just do FileUtils.copy content_or_readable, dest_path if a pathname is passed
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<
kke >
yeah they mostly can
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<
yorickpeterse >
>> require 'pathname'; File.open(Pathname.new('/etc/shadow'), 'r'); # This will raise because there's no filesystem
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<
yorickpeterse >
hm, interesting
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<
kke >
>> require 'pathname'; Pathname.new('/etc/shadow').open('r') { r.read until r.eof? }
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<
yorickpeterse >
oh neat, didn't even know you could directly do that on Pathname
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<
kke >
yeah and .exist? and .directory? and .unlink and things like that, they're awesome
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<
yorickpeterse >
I'm writing Java
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<
yorickpeterse >
somebody kill me please
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<
yorickpeterse >
before I turn into a FactoryMonsterFactory
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<
yorickpeterse >
BufferedWriter w = new BufferedWriter(new OutputStreamWriter(System.out,"UTF-8"));
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<
yorickpeterse >
like...wat
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<
gnufied >
the problem is JVM does not support Process.kill() natively
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<
gnufied >
otherwise, you would have been dead by now.
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<
gnufied >
lets wait for OOM error though
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<
yorickpeterse >
fuckit, letting the Java people do this
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<
whitequark >
pathname is awesome
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<
whitequark >
I wish ruby never used strings for paths at all.
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<
whitequark >
what about... path literals? and URL literals? way more useful than all those perlisms out there.
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<
whitequark >
oh, yes, and more pervasive usage of URL.
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<
whitequark >
Rails basically explodes if you try to pass Pathnames or URLs to it.
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<
yorickpeterse >
URLFactoryBuilder
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<
yorickpeterse >
also, brace yourselves:
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<
yorickpeterse >
>> require 'uri' URI.regex
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<
eval-in >
yorickpeterse => /tmp/execpad-370a4dc9665d/source-370a4dc9665d:2: syntax error, unexpected tCONSTANT, expecting keyword_end ... (
https://eval.in/33888)
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<
yorickpeterse >
errrr
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<
yorickpeterse >
fail me
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<
yorickpeterse >
>> require 'uri'; URI.regexp
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<
yorickpeterse >
...
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<
yorickpeterse >
oh ha, there's actually a newline
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<
yorickpeterse >
lel
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<
yorickpeterse >
either way, I do agree that "String all the things!" is annoying
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<
whitequark >
awesome regexp
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<
whitequark >
one of the more correct uses of regular expressions.
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<
lianj >
hope no one uses it to check if the string is 'only' a uri
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<
whitequark >
Next, the program calls CoGetClassObject to get a pointer to IExample.dll's IClassFactory object. Note that we pass the IExample object's GUID as the first argument. We also pass a pointer to our variable classFactory which is where a pointer to the IClassFactory will be returned to us, if all goes well.
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<
yorickpeterse >
whitequark: are you suicidal?
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<
yorickpeterse >
Should we get help?
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<
yorickpeterse >
and don't you dare export the OLE objects on the commandline for internet information
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<
yorickpeterse >
fuckit, 10 minute nap tiem
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: helps with insomnia
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<
yorickpeterse >
How do you not make it worse? I'd get nightmares reading that
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<
whitequark >
I never seen anything more bland and boring than MSDN.
12:38
<
yorickpeterse >
also pretty sure you can solve that by not dealing with parse.y every night before you go to bed
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<
whitequark >
meh, it's just C++ reinvented before C++ compilers got production quality
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<
whitequark >
then backported back to C++.
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<
whitequark >
how do I add type annotations to ruby 2.0's method definitions with kwargs?
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<
whitequark >
def foo(Bar baz: 1, Foo foo)?
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<
whitequark >
everything else seems to not work
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<
whitequark >
baz: Bar conflicts with kwarg syntax
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<
whitequark >
variations over def foo(baz => Bar) cannot accomodate kwarg syntax if => is also used for type conversion
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<
whitequark >
as in: def foo(baz: 1 => Bar) is ambiguous: is it (baz: 1) => Bar, or baz: (1 => Bar)
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<
charliesome >
whitequark: how about
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<
charliesome >
def foo((Bar)baz, (Fixnum)lol)
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<
whitequark >
even more ugly
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<
whitequark >
also related
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<
whitequark >
though, not sure if actually necessary
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<
yorickpeterse >
hmm, that was nice
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<
whitequark >
declaring type of lvars: it can be "Foo foo = 10"
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<
whitequark >
or "foo = 10 => foo"
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<
whitequark >
(inferred from type conversion)
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<
yorickpeterse >
def foo(<Bar>baz, <Foo>foo)
12:50
<
yorickpeterse >
needs <<<more>>>
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<
whitequark >
also related: types of ivars declared inside the class
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<
whitequark >
Foo @bar ?
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<
whitequark >
@bar => Foo ?
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<
whitequark >
I like => because "Foo @bar" can be interpreted as a method call.
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<
whitequark >
ruby's grammar leaves very little room for experiments.
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<
yorickpeterse >
wouldn't => conflict with hashes?
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: it never occurs bare
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<
whitequark >
and if it ever occurs in a hash, you're free to disambiguate it with ()
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<
injekt >
zzak_: ping
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<
yorickpeterse >
whitequark: hmmm
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<
whitequark >
I feel that I really need to stop using Ruby's grammar intact and use something way, way simpler instead
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<
whitequark >
it can even allow mechanical transformation from Ruby code
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<
yorickpeterse >
so def increment(number => Integer) => Integer; end
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<
whitequark >
right now it's def increment(Integer number) => Integer; end
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<
yorickpeterse >
oh and before I forget, please make the type system so that it checks for the ancestor chain (somehow) instead of directly the class
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<
whitequark >
and I don't like how it is inconsistent
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<
yorickpeterse >
that way you could also pass MyInteger (given it extends Integer)
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<
yorickpeterse >
since that's the single most annoying thing of type systems in my opinion: they are far too strict
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<
whitequark >
yorickpeterse: that's inheritance subtyping
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<
yorickpeterse >
also, you can use hungarian notation!
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<
whitequark >
and any sensible type system has it
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<
yorickpeterse >
def iIncrement(iNumber); end
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<
whitequark >
even nonsensical ones. Java, C++, etc.
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<
yorickpeterse >
C++ doesn't have it as far as I'm aware of
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<
whitequark >
it does
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<
zzak_ >
injekt: pong
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<
zzak_ >
injekt: im at a british pub LOL
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<
kke >
splitting long ifs looks ugly somehow
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kke >
because the next line of conditionals lines up with the code following it
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yorickpeterse >
zzak_: how long are you in Glorious Dainippon anyway?
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zzak_ >
injekt: nice!
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zzak_ >
yorickpeterse: i leave for home, and my cat, sunday
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matti >
zzak_: Back in the US?
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matti >
zzak_: Or enjoying humid night in Tokyo?
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yorickpeterse >
zzak_: Ah
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injekt >
zzak_: I hope you're drinking something british
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yorickpeterse >
zzak_: weren't you going to Euruko as well?
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yorickpeterse >
def polymorphic_path(record_or_hash_or_array, options = {})
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yorickpeterse >
haha that variable name
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injekt >
I think record would be enough
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whitequark >
duh, I really need to work something out with this syntax.
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whitequark >
it is really going to end up as a disaster.
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yorickpeterse >
Ruby++
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yorickpeterse >
Ruby With Types
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<
whitequark >
ruby already has types.
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yorickpeterse >
Ruby With Static Types
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yorickpeterse >
fine, w/e
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yorickpeterse >
now just add macros and templates and you're done :>
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gnufied >
i want ruby to support immutable variables and values
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<
gnufied >
a = 10, a = 15 sorry
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gnufied >
things like that
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gnufied >
a.update(:crap => "foo") sorry!
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gnufied >
injekt: not a fan?
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injekt >
the first one doesnt make much sense
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<
Mon_Ouie >
A = 10; A = 15
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injekt >
that's not mutating the object
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Mon_Ouie >
a.freeze
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gnufied >
thats why we are talking about two things
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injekt >
which is why freeze wouldn't help
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gnufied >
1. immutable objects
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gnufied >
2. immutable references
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injekt >
well then no I dont agree with 2
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injekt >
that's what constants are for
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gnufied >
constants can always be overridden
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injekt >
and 1 is solved by freeze basically
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gnufied >
not really
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injekt >
well not entirely
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gnufied >
there bunch of edge cases around frozen objects
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gnufied >
(last i looked)
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injekt >
sounds like you want python
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gnufied >
python has immutable references?
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injekt >
no I was referring to objects
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gnufied >
Mon_Ouie: that just a warning and nobody will use constant for local immutable references will they?
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injekt >
I don't know if I see the benefit of local immutable references
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injekt >
like at all
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yorickpeterse >
immutability isn't a holy grail
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gnufied >
injekt: for one, one can guarantee that function is side-effect free?
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yorickpeterse >
I probably shouldn't say that on HN
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injekt >
it would remove a lot of the nice dynamic capabilities of ruby, or any dynamic language
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injekt >
erlang has this right?
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gnufied >
yes. clojure has it.
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gnufied >
I am not saying it has to be made a default behaviour.
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gnufied >
I am saying, it should be possible.
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yorickpeterse >
I'd also say that by nature those systems would be less memory efficient, though you can probably optimize that to death as well
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injekt >
why would they be less memory efficient? storing references?
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gnufied >
probably he is thinking, updating a object will have to yield a new object
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gnufied >
rather than modifying existing one.
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gnufied >
he is right, but there are ways to get around that. people have been building functional data structures for decades
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injekt >
most languages yield new objects when mutating anyway, including ruby
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gnufied >
not really. ruby strings are mutable.
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gnufied >
so as about everything almost.
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gnufied >
I am not saying immutable references or objects has to be default. because then we are looking at entirely different language.
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gnufied >
they should be possible.
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gnufied >
</2 cents>
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yorickpeterse >
injekt: due to it being immutable you'd have to create new copies for every modifcation. However, like I said you can optimize for this
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yorickpeterse >
up to the point where it might not make a difference
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injekt >
im just gonna use go
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gnufied >
i have been working very slowly through learning go properly!
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gnufied >
need something to use it for
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yorickpeterse >
meanwhile I'm trying to make Rails deal with my contextual based link_to madness
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yorickpeterse >
SO CLOSE
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yorickpeterse >
SO GOD DAMN CLOSE
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injekt >
do you just wake up in the morning and think, "what kind of weird ass shit can i do today?"
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injekt >
you always seem to have weird/interesting problems to solve
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yorickpeterse >
injekt: it's called "having a nice job"
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gnufied >
and he is really short on co-workers and hence we have to listen. :-)
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yorickpeterse >
or "being fucking crazy"
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injekt >
I'll go for the later
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gnufied >
what is this contextual link_to() yorick/
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injekt >
I have a nice job and I dont have these kind of weird problems
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yorickpeterse >
tl;dr: this app has "stacked pages" similar to Basecamp (basically contexts), I want link_to and such to deal with that
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yorickpeterse >
or at least have a similar helper that can do that
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injekt >
rather than writing full paths?
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yorickpeterse >
Mind you you can have 4 contexts in a lot of cases
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yorickpeterse >
so for each link you'll end up with a case/if-else statement to deal with that
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yorickpeterse >
e.g. /contracts/1/users, /companies/2/users, /company_groups/2/users, etc
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gnufied >
perhaps those presenters can solve some of the problem?
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yorickpeterse >
I'm doing it in a one-liner
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yorickpeterse >
at least that's what I want to achieve
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gnufied >
as in - you are free to define polymorphic path helpers in them
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yorickpeterse >
and I'm actually pretty close
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gnufied >
whereas if you do that in models, people willl cry and fall over
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yorickpeterse >
contextual_path(:edit, some_user_object) # => takes care of it
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yorickpeterse >
I'm doing it in a helper
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gnufied >
is defining path helpers in models, just cargo cult?
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gnufied >
i mean hating it
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injekt >
models should not care about views
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yorickpeterse >
I'm currently abusing build_named_route_call for most of the work
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yorickpeterse >
and that
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injekt >
if you include the url helpers in a model, you should be smacked
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gnufied >
injekt: but they don't. they just have a method that a view can use.
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gnufied >
injekt: I don't almost 100%.
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injekt >
that's what view helpers were built for
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gnufied >
but I am not very sure.
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injekt >
or presenters if you like them
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injekt >
git rebase is like the best thing ever
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gnufied >
there is also polymorphic_url_for or something tbh
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yorickpeterse >
injekt: I can never get the hang of it
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injekt >
yorickpeterse: it's a god damn beast, so powerful, I only use the basic features
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yorickpeterse >
I always end up rebasing myself into hell
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yorickpeterse >
(Git hell)
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injekt >
I dont do anything magical with it, I dont see myself as advanced with git on any level, it's way too confusing
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injekt >
but rebase, rebase is the shit
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yorickpeterse >
HAHAHAHA IT WORKS
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yorickpeterse >
<insert picture of Frankenstein scene>
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yorickpeterse >
contextual_path(:new, :user) or contextual_path(:new, user) (using an object)
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yorickpeterse >
one last step: fixing the location of the available contexts, right now these come from a method
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yorickpeterse >
but meh, I don't want to define one of those for every controller
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injekt >
what are you building?
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gnufied >
yorickpeterse: polymorphic_url didn't do?
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yorickpeterse >
No, it slaps too much in front of it
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yorickpeterse >
I needed the very last segment of the path, not everything
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yorickpeterse >
so "user_path" instead of /foo/bar/user_path
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erikh >
he invents them
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<
erikh >
also I'm grumpy
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banisterfiend >
Asher: sup
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Uranio >
there is any SIMPLE gem for make a twitt?
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<
ericwood >
the twitter gem
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<
ericwood >
but you still have to grapple with OAuth for any and all twitter-related gems
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<
ericwood >
so yay :D:D:D:D
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Uranio >
ericwood: yeah, show be cool... but do not support proxy
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<
Uranio >
oauth is not a problem
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<
ericwood >
my mind broke trying to parse that sentence
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<
Uranio >
proyx's support is the problem
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<
ericwood >
elaborate plz!
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Uranio >
ericwood: ericwood.mind=Cuban::Lang::WeirdEnglish.new do |input|
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<
ericwood >
ah Cuban WeirdEnglish
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<
Uranio >
the problem is in the proxy... I need to use a proxy
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<
ericwood >
ah, see that I can't help you with
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<
Uranio >
not connecting direct to internet
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<
ericwood >
I don't know anything about proxying
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<
ericwood >
but I feel like that should be done at the OS level
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<
ericwood >
forward all traffic over the proxy?
16:13
<
ericwood >
but you probably don't want to do that (I wouldn't, either)
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<
Uranio >
everything work, except the twitter gem... what should by the mistery
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NemesisD >
anyone know how to pull the numbers before and after the decimal in a bigdecimal
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NemesisD >
im struggling to remember the term for it. i thought it was the mantissa but im not sure
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banisterfiend >
NemesisD: use mod
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NemesisD >
banisterfiend: ah so like integer, decimal = bigdec.divmod(1).map(&:truncate)
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<
NemesisD >
what are the terms for those 2 parts
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<
banisterfiend >
#math ;)
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Squarepy >
NemesisD, the definition distinguishes the pre-factor (mantissa) and the exponent (relative to the chosen base)
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erikh >
math math math
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<
injekt >
math shmath
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<
injekt >
math is hard lets talk concurrency
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erikh >
injekt: sadly, that's easier for me
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injekt >
erikh: me too :(
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injekt >
and even more sadly not because im awesome at concurrency
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<
erikh >
hehe exactly
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<
erikh >
I FEEL YA BRAH
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<
injekt >
HEY DONT TOUCH THERE
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<
erikh >
much pot was smoked during this time in my life
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injekt >
wrong window
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wnd >
darn focus stealers
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wnd >
actually, I believe the word is "thief". anyway. carry on.
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apeiros >
wnd: cats on youtube again?
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yorickpeterse >
github plz
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andrewvos >
Ok so I want to make a cucumber formatter that shows the time remaining in a bar at the bottom of the screen. Suggestions?
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andrewvos >
I have so far created a custom formatter that forward calls on to the Pretty formatter
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andrewvos >
And I'm trying to write the bar at the bottom but have no idea how to make it work without ruining the ruby output
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banisterfiend >
andrewvos: you'er using curses for the bar?
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andrewvos >
banisterfiend: Nahh I'm just doing a print "\r" ; print "some shit"; print "\r" so far
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andrewvos >
banisterfiend: But perhaps that is a better option
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andrewvos >
I kinda want something like tmux does
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andrewvos >
For the entire test run
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kung_fu_mike >
When my application spins up, I need to create a class with a name based on a string eg:
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kung_fu_mike >
new_class_name = "MyNewClass"
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kung_fu_mike >
class new_class_name.constantize
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kung_fu_mike >
Can someone point me in the right direction for doing that?
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kung_fu_mike >
I am not sure if I should look at eval mixed with const_set in some way
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kung_fu_mike >
or what
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injekt >
>> Object.const_set("Foo", Class.new).new
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kung_fu_mike >
Ah ha, ok, that makes sense
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and is there a way to do it and have the class be a child class?
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kung_fu_mike >
Thank you by the way
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kung_fu_mike >
maybe like:
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apeiros >
kung_fu_mike: take a look at Class.new's documentation
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kung_fu_mike >
Object.const_set("Foo", Class.new < ParentClass).new
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kung_fu_mike >
yeah, I am looking for it now
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kung_fu_mike >
That was the starting point I really needed
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kung_fu_mike >
Object.const_set("ChildExample", Class.new(String))
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kung_fu_mike >
Awesome
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kung_fu_mike >
thanks again
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kung_fu_mike >
(If anyone searches the logs, the line above will make a class that descends from String)
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andrewvos >
Anyone know how to return the cursor to the bottom left?
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andrewvos >
In terminal
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injekt >
move your mouse
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yorickpeterse >
andrewvos: move the mouse to the bottom left
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apeiros >
andrewvos: click!
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<
andrewvos >
I CUT YOU BOTH
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<
yorickpeterse >
The Dutch actually had an ad about this
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yorickpeterse >
lemme look it up
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andrewvos >
Curses.curx and Curses.cury
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andrewvos >
FACEEEEPALM
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zenspider >
mmmmm curry
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erikh >
partial appetizers
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