#ruby-core on 2013-10-05 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-03-25 00:43 hsbt_away changed the topic of #ruby-core to: check the latest release candidate for 1.9.1 release ftp.ruby-lang.org:/home/yugui/ruby-1.9.1-r26021+1.tar.bz2

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00:19 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31066] nobu:r43145 (trunk): common.mk: sizes.c depends on PREP now - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31066

00:19 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31067] svn:r43146 (trunk): * 2013-10-05 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31067

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00:26 <travis-ci> [travis-ci] The build passed. by @svn: See http://travis-ci.org/ruby/ruby/builds/12155565

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01:02 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31068] nobu:r43147 (trunk): common.mk: revert r43137 and r43145 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31068

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02:21 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31069] nobu:r43148 (trunk): thread.c: fix some mutexes remaining locked after forking - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31069

02:21 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31070] nobu:r43149 (trunk): thread.c: fix some mutexes remaining locked after forking - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31070

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04:43 <charliesome> _ko1: what if we optimized String#freeze instead of introducing new f-suffix syntax or frozen_strings pragma? https://gist.github.com/charliesome/6836600

04:43 <charliesome> cc headius

04:43 <headius> I feel kinda silly now :-)

04:43 <charliesome> we could extend this sort of thing to work on array/hash literals too

04:44 <charliesome> without requiring changes to the user visible language

04:44 <headius> there would be a call site invalidation check for String#freeze, but it will still be way faster than a new object

04:44 <headius> yeah easily

04:44 <headius> your fstring code would stay in place

04:47 <charliesome> yep

04:47 <charliesome> i'm totally in favour of going with this and killing f-suffix syntax

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21:10 <felipec> any developers around can explain why the patch to fix strptime() is not applied?

21:10 <felipec> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.ruby.general/367536

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22:52 <r0bgleeson> felipec: is 1377283786 seconds since EPOCH?

22:53 <r0bgleeson> %s seems to be documented as "seconds within the minute"

22:53 <felipec> r0bgleeson: yes, that's what '%s' means in strptime(3)

22:53 <felipec> r0bgleeson: no, that's %S

22:54 <r0bgleeson> ah youre right

22:54 <r0bgleeson> my bad

22:54 <r0bgleeson> i use cmd+f and didnt figure out the case, sorry

22:54 <felipec> r0bgleeson: the fix is very simple, and doesn't affect anybody negatively

22:54 <felipec> I don't see what the problem is

22:55 <r0bgleeson> i'm not a great person to ask, i idle here, no background on the ticket.

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23:00 <r0bgleeson> felipec: seems to make a lot of sense to me.

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23:02 <r0bgleeson> felipec: what does that return for Time.strptime "0 -07:00", "%s %z" ?

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23:04 <felipec> r0bgleeson: it seems Time is not affected

23:04 <felipec> r0bgleeson: but in DateTime it's 1969-12-31T17:00:00-07:00

23:06 <felipec> r0bgleeson: or maybe it is affected, I'm testing with rubysl right now

23:06 <felipec> https://github.com/felipec/rubysl-date/commit/f2e939a0fe332270f0fd9c0efd1c827934de4bf5

23:06 <r0bgleeson> felipec: ah, i didnt even know Time.at took a negative index

23:06 <felipec> r0bgleeson: yes

23:06 <r0bgleeson> it makes sense just wondered about that case

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23:17 <r0bgleeson> felipec: Time.strptime() doesn't seem to be aware of the timezone at all here for me on rbx2.0.0

23:17 <r0bgleeson> it returns UTC+1 for -07:00

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23:18 <felipec> r0bgleeson: yeah, UTC+1 is probably your localtime

23:18 <r0bgleeson> its not

23:18 <r0bgleeson> im UTC+2

23:18 <r0bgleeson> Time.now returns UTC+2

23:19 <felipec> r0bgleeson: what does Time.strptime("0 -07:00", "%s %z") return?

23:19 <r0bgleeson> irb(main):009:0> Time.strptime "0 -07:00", "%s %z"

23:19 <r0bgleeson> => 1970-01-01 01:00:00 +0100

23:20 <felipec> r0bgleeson: and Time.at(0)?

23:20 <r0bgleeson> irb(main):011:0> Time.at(0)

23:20 <r0bgleeson> => 1970-01-01 01:00:00 +0100

23:21 <felipec> weird

23:21 <r0bgleeson> it doesnt use UTC for you?

23:21 <r0bgleeson> im on the official release of 2

23:22 <r0bgleeson> i think the +1 is for DST

23:24 <felipec> r0bgleeson: actually Time.at(0) returns -6, Time.now returns -5

23:24 <r0bgleeson> thats local time then

23:24 <r0bgleeson> weird

23:24 <r0bgleeson> hm

23:25 <felipec> smells like a bug

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23:28 <r0bgleeson> felipec: it looks like the offset is screwed

23:28 <r0bgleeson> for DST

23:28 <r0bgleeson> thatd be my guess

23:30 <r0bgleeson> looks like Time.now has the right offset for my local time and at() doesn't

23:39 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31071] zzak:r43150 (trunk): * lib/webrick.rb: [DOC] fix grammar in WEBrick overview [Fixes GH-413] - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31071

23:39 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:31072] svn:r43151 (trunk): * 2013-10-06 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=31072

23:41 <zzak> svn++

23:41 <zzak> hsbt: ping

23:45 <zzak> i sent tweet + updated ticket