<infobot>
Since Sat Aug 29 03:50:53 2015, there have been 0 modifications, 25 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 7 commands. I have been awake for 2d 20h 55m 14s this session, and currently reference 119438 factoids. I'm using about 85608 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 332.96/6.4 child 0/0.01
<infobot>
DocScrutinizer05: i forgot ibot, infobot
<DocScrutinizer05>
~literal ibot
<infobot>
"ibot" is "not a help system"
<DocScrutinizer05>
~literal infobot
<infobot>
"infobot" is "A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command!"
<DocScrutinizer05>
~factinfo ibot, infobot
<infobot>
there's no such factoid as ibot, infobot, DocScrutinizer05
<DocScrutinizer05>
~unforget ibot, infobot
<infobot>
DocScrutinizer05: Successfully recovered 'ibot, infobot'. Have fun now.
<DocScrutinizer05>
~factinfo ibot, infobot
<infobot>
ibot, infobot -- last modified 1m ago by docscrutinizer05; it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008.
<DocScrutinizer05>
~forget ibot, infobot
<infobot>
DocScrutinizer05: i forgot ibot, infobot
<DocScrutinizer05>
~listvalues devuan
<infobot>
Factoid search of 'devuan' by value (2): systemd cabal ;; systemd cabal #DEL#.
<DocScrutinizer05>
~seen poettering
<infobot>
i haven't seen 'poettering', DocScrutinizer05
<DocScrutinizer05>
that's great news ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
~+help
<infobot>
I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"
<DocScrutinizer05>
((<hellekin> DocScrutinizer05: looks like... API changed?)) no, your system lags behind with updates, "machinectl shell" is a very recent new "improvement" (*cough*)
<DocScrutinizer05>
yet to be seen. They will prolly implement some "quarantine period" for a certain percentage of the credit on account, in case customers want to roll back resp dispute their payment (which according to PP they could do up to 180 days)
<DocScrutinizer05>
we will negotiate about that detail later, when we need immediate access to final payments
<edwin>
does that chip perform any signature checks on the firmware blob, or it'll accept modified firmware blobs too?
<DocScrutinizer05>
honestly I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess I'd say "signature? what's signature?"
<edwin>
some form of cryptographic signature
<DocScrutinizer05>
to perform that sort of checks and "security" measures, you'd need more firmware on the chip for the checks than for the WLAN, so that defeats the whole point of uploading firmware rather than have it on board in a ROM
<DocScrutinizer05>
the idea behind all that was "do it cheap and simple"
<DocScrutinizer05>
btw recentöly we got issues with the designated wg 7351 WLAN module. MOQ:2000, lead-time: 20 weeks :-(
<DocScrutinizer05>
We might need to change to another model that's less mistreated by the manufacturers
<DocScrutinizer05>
it's a very poorly thought law proposal, that basically can't work in RL
<edwin>
as if the unmodifiable firmware will now suddenly become bug-free
<DocScrutinizer05>
as if the firmware was unmodifiable on any recent device (except some android phones and iPhone)
<edwin>
yeah I doubt any company would want to recall all their devices just to make it compliant with this new law
<DocScrutinizer05>
also aiui this applies only to the RADIO firmware itself. Irrelevant for the linux running on the router
<DocScrutinizer05>
also funny: this only applies to 5GHz WLAN
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<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly they already gave up on 2.4GHz
<edwin>
channel 14?
<DocScrutinizer05>
or there's some critical service next to 5GHz they want to protect from hackers messing with it. Maybe avionics or military or whatever
<edwin>
the wiki page mentions a weather radar at airports
<edwin>
would seem more logical to me to change the frequency of that radar instead of changing the frequency of all other devices :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly some concress man reads an article in wired, headlined sth like "hacker made cruise missile go out of its track by using a simple hacked 5GHz WLAN router"
<DocScrutinizer05>
anyway cya, bbl
<edwin>
bye
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<pigeons>
yeah i think some kind of radar planes use to detect some form of weather hazard