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<werdnativ> def def; :def end; self.def # def jam
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<Paradox> sup ruby
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<tobago> ruby is great.
<seanstickle> Yup
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<Paradox> best damn language evr
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<offby1> USA USA
<offby1> er
<tobago> awesome
<offby1> NIPPON NIPPON
<Paradox> no
<offby1> no?
<Paradox> ಠ_ಠ
<seanstickle> Big Red Dot! Big Red Dot!
<Paradox> lol
<banisterfiend> offby1: hey eric
<offby1> stalker
<Paradox> (づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ
<banisterfiend> hehehehe
<seanstickle> Kirby!
<olrrai> do u know if activeadmin uses a local cookie for logon?
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<banisterfiend> offby1: so eric, wanna work on a SLIME-like thing for ruby with me? it'll be a good partnership: u can do the elisp and i can tell u what to do
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<offby1> nah, I never have every for stuff outside of work :-(
<offby1> er, s/svery/energy/
<offby1> wish I did but I don't.
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<Paradox> banisterfiend, pry…
<Paradox> banisterfiend, http://pry.github.com/
<banisterfiend> Paradox: :P u know i wrote pry right? :)
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<Paradox> oh
<Paradox> cool
<Paradox> where can i get a working copy of pry-git then
<banisterfiend> Paradox: gem install pry-git
<Paradox> i tried the gem and it made me angry because it didnt show up in plugins
<banisterfiend> it's still in beta though
<Paradox> lol
<banisterfiend> Paradox: it should do
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<Paradox> let me install it and i'll show you
<banisterfiend> Paradox: amybe some weird bundler problem u got?
<Paradox> nah, doesnt bug no where else
<Paradox> this internet is kind of slow though
<Paradox> the hotel blocks a lot of stuff so im vpn-in
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: pry-git is more proof of concept right now
<Paradox> banisterfiend, http://i.imgur.com/G508S.png
<banisterfiend> but i think it's pretty cool
<Paradox> oh there it shows up
<Paradox> lol
<Paradox> ill eat my words
<banisterfiend> Paradox: do u like stack_explorer?
<Paradox> yeah
<Paradox> its nice
<Paradox> along with nav
<Paradox> replaces any need for an IDE
<Paradox> and cooline is awesome
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: cool. also check out pry-debugger if pry-nav is kind of unstable for u, it bugs out on some ruby versions appaerntly
<Paradox> i havent had any problems
<Paradox> that said, havent used it much since i jumped to p194
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<banisterfiend> yeah i think it's all LLVM builds on osx
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<Paradox> prior to finding pry i was trying to use SublimeREPL to improve irb, and it worked, but half the time it http://i.imgur.com/wplD0.gif
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: cool, how long u been using it?
<Paradox> few weeks now
<banisterfiend> Paradox: cool
<banisterfiend> Paradox: which commands to u make most use of
<Paradox> probably cd and ls
<Paradox> although show-source and show-doc are very useful
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<offby1> I think I do "ls {}" three times per day
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<offby1> I use show-doc _all_ the time. "ri" never seems to work
<banisterfiend> offby1: did u know that ? is an alias for show-doc ?
<Paradox> i installed yard just to make show-doc more useful
<offby1> banisternope
<banisterfiend> Paradox: did u install pry-doc ?
<banisterfiend> offby1: yeah and $ is an alias for show-source
<Paradox> yuh
<Paradox> but still
<banisterfiend> offby1: ? Array#sort instead of show-doc Array#sort
<banisterfiend> offby1: and $ Pry instead of show-source Pry
<offby1> *nod
<offby1> never used show-source even once
<banisterfiend> offby1: it's awesome, type show-source Pry::Method
<banisterfiend> offby1: show-source is esp. useful if show-doc returns crap, or nothing at all
<banisterfiend> Paradox: show-source -a ClassName is great too as it shows all monkey patches for a given class
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: but probably my fave command atm is find-method -c :P
<Paradox> banisterfiend, the one suggestion i have is easier way to make aliases
<Paradox> or is it already there
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: Pry.commands.alias_command "lM", "ls -M"
<Paradox> ah
<Paradox> lol
<banisterfiend> Paradox: if that's too difficult u can suggest a simpler api
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: how were u doing it?
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<Paradox> i was editing pry config
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: do u know about find-method -c ?
<Paradox> yeah
<banisterfiend> that command is pure magic
<Paradox> i used it the other day to find something
<banisterfiend> ah ok
<Paradox> i cant remember which
<Paradox> ah yeah
<Paradox> 10.minutes
<Paradox> couldnt remember where in rails that was
<banisterfiend> did it help?
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<Paradox> (activesupport/fixnum)
<banisterfiend> it's not always so useful with rails stuff i think as rails uses a lot of eval()
<offby1> slow
<blendedbychris> hey guys i'm trying to do a simple regex each loop… the top part is the match http://pastie.textmate.org/private/2m5wsagfuhn1kxsqz6a0qa
<banisterfiend> offby1: yeah, u should never do it at top-level
<banisterfiend> offby1: u shoudl always constrain the find to a namespace
<blendedbychris> it's not returning any matches
<banisterfiend> offby1: otherwise it has to search over every single method in the runtime
<offby1> ah
<banisterfiend> esp. with -c
<Paradox> slow
<banisterfiend> which cheks over every single line of sourcecode in every single method in the runtime :)
<Paradox> but i got tired of googling
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<Paradox> and didnt want to dig through all of actionpack and activesupport
<banisterfiend> Paradox: ever used the -c option?
<Paradox> yeah, thats how i found it actually
<Paradox> lol
<banisterfiend> cool
<Paradox> i bound ~@ to reset
<Paradox> thats why i was asking about aliases
<blendedbychris> any ideas guys?
<Paradox> i gotta jum
<Paradox> brb
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<offby1> a warning to that effect might be helpful
<banisterfiend> offby1: that it'll take a long time?
<banisterfiend> offby1: how long is long?
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<banisterfiend> offby1: answer me or i beat u
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<Paradox> im back
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: wb
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<davidokner> Are there any ruby books that have exercises to practice?
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<Paradox> davidokner, pickaxe book
<davidokner> Oh, I have the pickaxe book. I haven't gotten to any exercises.
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<davidokner> Maybe they come in the second half of the book after ruby is fully explained?
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<davidokner> (instead of as you go?)
<Paradox> yeah
<Paradox> and also, its best to pick something you care about and start building
<Paradox> thats how i learned
<Paradox> like…if you want to make irc bots
<davidokner> Half of the book is class documentation
<Paradox> use cinch
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<davidokner> I'm flipping through and not seeing exercises.
<davidokner> I don't see what I'm talking about in the table of contents.
<davidokner> I mean like problem sets like in lernaing text books
<sorbo_> idk
<sorbo_> I feel like you learn better by doing projects than exercises
<davidokner> I don't have any projects
<sorbo_> well
<sorbo_> what do you want to use ruby for?
<davidokner> I want to use it in the future, but I don't have an immediate need.
<davidokner> I'm a cyber engineer. So I think I need to be able to talk to computers.
<davidokner> I have a degree in computer science as well.
<davidokner> And I want ruby to be something I have available.
<Paradox> davidokner, do you use reddit?
<davidokner> no
<Paradox> anything with an api?
<Paradox> at all
<davidokner> No
<Paradox> wrong
<Paradox> you're on irc
<Paradox> irc has an api
<Paradox> a very simple one
<Paradox> :p
<davidokner> Well, I was thinking about playing around with the Gosu API
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<Paradox> grab HTTParty and play around
<Paradox> really excersizes will only get you so far
<Paradox> you need to make and solve your own problems to grasp something
<Paradox> else you just learn the exercizes
<Paradox> not the fundamentals behind them
<davidokner> That sounds good. I could just think some things up once I know enough
<davidokner> I thought there might be some common types of problems to solve I'd need examples of
<davidokner> Without any particular context.
<davidokner> Probably databases, what I would do would use databses.
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<davidokner> I saw ruby on rails has a special database API, do you use that when not using rails?
<Paradox> you can
<Paradox> or you can use simpler ones like MongoMapper
<davidokner> I wouldn't want to use SQL
<Paradox> activerecord is great
<Paradox> but it has some bulk
<davidokner> right activerecord
<Paradox> mongomapper gives you the gist of it
<Paradox> but its a lot simpler to use and implement
<davidokner> do you have to use a mongo DB?
<Paradox> yah
<Paradox> theres probably one for redis too
<davidokner> Oh, well I need to be able to use ORacle.
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<Paradox> ouch
<Paradox> good luck
<Paradox> i dont think anyone wants to develop apis for their stuff
<davidokner> Why, can't active record work with Oracle?
<Paradox> for fear of being sued
<Paradox> that might do what you want
<davidokner> If I were to ever use Ruby in work, we always use Oracle DB's.
<Paradox> thats unfortunate
<Paradox> but you can work around it
<Paradox> oracle-enhanced seems decent
<davidokner> Sometimes in the past some Microsoft DB.
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<Paradox> why not Postgres or Mongo or something like that?
<davidokner> Not totally sure. I think the DB software might have to use Oracle.
<davidokner> We actually could use Mongo for what I do, because what I do is just reporting, not storage DB.
<davidokner> whatever you call the two.
<davidokner> From what little I have heard about Mongo DB, I realized you wouldn't want to use it for your storage DB.
<davidokner> But only your reporting DB that pulls from your storage DB's. I forget the proper teriminology.
<Paradox> ive had no problems with it
<Paradox> but some people hate it for whatever reason
<davidokner> But I heard Mongo DB doesn't save the data or something.
<Paradox> not in my experience
<davidokner> Something about if the server were interrupted.
<davidokner> Basically that would mean mongo is good for one kind of DB application. There are two types, I forget the technical names.
<davidokner> The latter is the "reporting" type. Which mongo would be good for.
<Paradox> i belive they've fixed that stuff
<davidokner> Oh, ok. Well I thought it was part of the design to give is super speed.
<davidokner> I've only heard a little about it. WHen I heard about it I looked up some basic info quickly.
<davidokner> So what does active record work with then?
<davidokner> Anything but Oracle?
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<Paradox> davidokner, there is a list somewhere
<Paradox> but i provided a link to a gem/gh project that adds oracle support
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<Johnny7877> When I was asking earlier today about image processing in ruby, it seemed like there aren't really any actively maintained ones out there
<Johnny7877> And someone said to just use ImageMagick as it is
<Johnny7877> How would you go about doing this from ruby?
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<Paradox> Johnny7877, `convert `
<Paradox> but thats kind of tricky
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<Johnny7877> RMagick apparently used to be used a lot, but now it's kind of outdated, especially the Windows build
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<Paradox> thats why i like rubytoolbox
<Paradox> shows frequency of updates and how old
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<Paradox> Image science might be good
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<Johnny7877> Seemed like it was mostly for thumbnails
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<Paradox> well
<Paradox> if you want to use imagemagick as is
<Paradox> you just run its commands wrapped in `
<Paradox> ie `convert -size 300 image1.jpg thumbnail.png
<Paradox> `
<Paradox> but…
<Paradox> then you have to deal with each platforms quirks
<Johnny7877> That's interesting, didn't know that actually
<Paradox> yeah
<Paradox> you can call anything via ` `
<Paradox> it just returns a string
<Paradox> so for example, if for some reason you dont want to use the git gem
<Paradox> you can do status = `git status -porcelain`
<Paradox> then any string-processing you want on status
<Johnny7877> I really like the BitmapData class that AS3 has: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/flash/display/BitmapData.html I know it's kind of unreasonable to expect the same thing from ruby, but it seems like there's more of a lack of image processing stuff then expected
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<Paradox> yeah, its one area thats surprisingly shallow
<Paradox> considering python lets you view fucking histograms of an image
<Johnny7877> Yeah, and since this is for a job for someone else, it just makes it all that more complicated
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<Johnny7877> They said python or Ruby, trying to decide if I should do a crash Python study and just use it
<Johnny7877> My preference is Ruby
<Paradox> its probably not worth using python
<Paradox> python is great for academics
<Paradox> but not so good for real-world problems
<Banistergalaxy> Histogram are easy
<Paradox> Banistergalaxy, elaborate, i've been wanting to make a decent thumbnailer for a rails app im dabbling in
<Johnny7877> Yeah, I'm not a big python fan
<Paradox> the way the reddit thumbnailer works is…we take the image down to 70px x
<Paradox> and then run histogram on the image
<Paradox> and crop it to 70px h for the most interesting region
<graspee> i wouldn't say python is "not so good for real-world problems" but i might be being trolled
<graspee> python and ruby fill the same niche
<Paradox> i know chunky_png does stuff
<Johnny7877> I actually am interested in that one
<Paradox> but chunky_png doesnt support anything but pngs
<Johnny7877> But yeah, that's the problem :D
<Paradox> thats the reddit thumbnailer
<Paradox> doh
<Paradox> for histogram you can just convert the image to strings
<Paradox> lol
<Paradox> im a doofus
<Paradox> L65 is the actual thumbnailer
<Johnny7877> I think people don't give Flash enough credit :D BitmapData class has an histogram method in fact
<Johnny7877> But heck, JS is the wave of the future
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<Paradox> basically, if an image is taller than it is wide, it takes it, slices 10px off the top and bottom, and compares these two slices, and discards the one with the least entropy
<Paradox> it then repeats till the image is square, then scales it
<Paradox> to 70px
<Johnny7877> Oh yeah, saw a cool video on something like that
<Paradox> the advantage is, if it gets the right image, you get a thumbnail of the most interesting part of an image
<Johnny7877> Except it didn't use static columns/rows, it actually dynamically chose pixels that might not be aligned
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<Paradox> other, simpler ones crop to the center or upper left corner or something
<Paradox> and that doesnt generate a good image
<Johnny7877> There it is - watch and be amazed :D
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<Paradox> i have that built into photoshop right now
<Paradox> but its kind of expensive
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<Johnny7877> Did you see around 2:00 how they do it?
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<Paradox> yeah
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<Johnny7877> You said you implemented something similar? Is it difficult?
<Paradox> no
<Paradox> i havent
<Paradox> adobe has
<Banistergalaxy> Paradox I wrote two image libs it ain't hard homie
<Paradox> its in photoshop CS6
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<Paradox> Banistergalaxy, which ones
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<Paradox> lol
<Banistergalaxy> Devil and texplay
<Johnny7877> You actually wrote those?
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<Banistergalaxy> Devil is bindings for a c lib, but I wrote texplay from scratch in c
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<Banistergalaxy> Johnny7877: you heard of them?
<Johnny7877> Ha ha, I've just been looking for the best image proccessing solution for Ruby
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<Johnny7877> Cross-platform that is up to date
<Banistergalaxy> Try devil but I no longer maintain it
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<Banistergalaxy> I would say use image science
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<Johnny7877> Can it do more than resize/blur/ super basic things?
<Banistergalaxy> I'll write a proper image lib for ruby one day
<Johnny7877> And does it work on Windows?
<Johnny7877> Windows and Ruby are not best friends :D
<Banistergalaxy> Johnny7877: what functions do your want
<Banistergalaxy> You
<Paradox> Banistergalaxy, i actually didnt know about either of them
<Johnny7877> Not exactly sure yet. One project I'm looking at has to do with detecting skintones of faces
<Paradox> so far i've been using imagemagick to convert images to png then using oily_png to deal with the croppage
<Banistergalaxy> Johnny7877: try opencv
<Johnny7877> Well, python or ruby os what it's supposed to be in
<Johnny7877> I actually haved used opencv in c++ before, it's a touch tricky to learn, but pretty cool
<Johnny7877> *have
<Banistergalaxy> Ruby had decent bindings I think
<Banistergalaxy> Has
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<Johnny7877> Oh yeah?
<Banistergalaxy> Yeah
<Banistergalaxy> Google
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<QE4> Stupid question: is it acceptable practice to break up an object initialize method into sub methods for readability?
<Spaceghostc2c> QE4: I generally don't create large objects with a lot to them, but sure why not?
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<QE4> Spaceghostc2c: im just peeved when I have to do string manipulations without throwing the function into its own def
<Spaceghostc2c> QE4: What sort of crazy stuff are you doing?
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<QE4> Spaceghostc2c: nothing special, an object im creating takes a string in initialize and I need to sanitize (lots of cases) it for use in an instance variable
<QE4> Spaceghostc2c: i just started learning ruby so it just feels weird to call methods inside the initialize method although its common in other languages
<QE4> just haven't seen enough examples doing that
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<QE4> in ruby
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<ukd1> is this really the best way of summing an array in ruby? a_var.inject {|sum,x| sum ? sum + x : x } …..?
<Johnny7877> a_var.inject(:+)
<Johnny7877> I think that should work
<ukd1> indeed it does! :-)
<Paradox> yup it does
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<ukd1> can you explain how it works - I'm just learning ruby?
<samuelkadolph> It passes a symbol to the inject method
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<Paradox> the :+ symbol
<ukd1> LOL
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<samuelkadolph> There's also inject(&:+) ;)
<ukd1> what's the &?
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<samuelkadolph> Calls to_proc on the argument then passes it in as the block to the method
<Paradox> from the docs
<Paradox> Combines all elements of enum by applying a binary operation, specified by a block or a symbol that names a method or operator.
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<samuelkadolph> Symbol#to_proc is the same as { |obj, *args| obj.send(symbol, *args) }
<Paradox> symbol names +
<ukd1> oh ok
<Johnny7877> How does it go from symbol to operator curiously?
<graspee> I'm such a linux noob, but how is this possible? I do ls and there's no files at all, I do ls $PWD and there's the files back?!
<Johnny7877> Or does it just do that?
<Paradox> Johnny7877
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<Paradox> i think it does, but let me see
<Paradox> its written in c
<ukd1> graspee, try echo $PWD
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<samuelkadolph> Johnny7877: What do you mean symbol to operator?
<Johnny7877> Yup
<graspee> ukd1: it shows my current directory, nothing weird
<ukd1> lol
<ukd1> graspee, has someone done a mean alias?
<graspee> i'm the only user
<graspee> it happens when i'm doing stuff with rake
<ukd1> oh, must be your fault then (hehehe)
<samuelkadolph> Johnny7877: That wasn't a yes/no question
<ukd1> graspee, what shell are you using?
<Johnny7877> Ha ha, read it wrong. inject(:+) for example
<graspee> ukd1: bash
<samuelkadolph> Johnny7877: operators in ruby are kind of tricky. + isn't an operator, it's more of a method.
<samuelkadolph> Johnny7877: 1 + 3 is actually 1.+(3)
<Johnny7877> And a method is just sending a string or symbol or something, right?
<samuelkadolph> methods can receive any arguments and return whatever you want
<Johnny7877> I mean, it could do something like 1.send :+
<Johnny7877> Err, 1.send :+, 2
<Spaceghostc2c> You probably don't want to do that.
<samuelkadolph> Yes, you can use send to call any method
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<Spaceghostc2c> Call all the methods!
<Johnny7877> Spaceghost, I was just asking how inject handles the symbol you pass, but I guess it's somewhat irrelevant since it's in c
<samuelkadolph> I'm not sure but I would imagine it would do the c way of using send
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<Johnny7877> Yeah, I can almost make sense of the source, but not quite
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<Johnny7877> But I agree, that's probably a bad way to think of it
<Johnny7877> Not sure what rb_scan_args does
<samuelkadolph> Oh wow
<samuelkadolph> That's an interesting way
<samuelkadolph> If you give it a 1 arg without a block, it stores it in the op in the memo and uses it's own iterator
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<tobago|mobile> test
<Johnny7877> Hmm, I kind of get it :D
<samuelkadolph> Johnny7877: When you use rb_define_method and pass -1 for argc, it means your method accepts variable number of arguments. So then you can use rb_scan_args to handle variable number of arguments. enum_inject uses it accept 0-2 arguments and store them in init and op if they are given.
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<Johnny7877> Thanks for the info, time to relax and call it a night. Adios!
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<Paradox> sigh, this is going to be fun
<Paradox> gotta update my zsh
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<Paradox> sigh
<Paradox> fuggidaboutit
<Paradox> im doing this update tomorrow
<Paradox> 150 merge conflicts = no me gusta
<banisterfiend> Paradox: are you unhappy
<Paradox> banisterfiend, im trying to update my omz
<Paradox> but sorin changed a whole lot of stuff
<Paradox> so i just branched and will start from scratch
<Paradox> then cherry-pick my custom theme and whatnot
<Paradox> my theme does nice things like run timers on commands and displays termwidth divider lines
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<Paradox> as well as standard stuff like shows git whatnots
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<banisterfiend> Paradox: what's omz
<Paradox> oh-my-zsh
<Paradox> specifically, https://github.com/sorin-ionescu/oh-my-zsh fork
<Paradox> easy way to get up and running with zsh
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<Paradox> zsh is nice, feels modern, compared to, say, bash
<Paradox> fish is nice, but too immature
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<iMBA> hola! will be great if someone could help me with this! :)
<iMBA> i am new to ruby...
<iMBA> i am trying to use the gem smartcard on 1.9.3
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<iMBA> require 'smartcard'
<iMBA> context = Smartcard::PCSC::Context.new(Smartcard::PCSC::SCOPE_SYSTEM)
<banisterfiend> iMBA: does MBA stand for mac book air
<iMBA> gives me: read.rb:3:in `<main>': uninitialized constant Smartcard::PCSC::SCOPE_SYSTEM (NameError)
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<iMBA> banisterfiend, hi :) lol.. no MBA are my initials :D
<iMBA> P.S. if i would have used that relationship i would have been iMBP
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<iMBA> banisterfiend: any headstart on my problem? :?
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<_br_> iMBA: Hm, try calling it with Smartcard::PCSC::FFILib::Consts::SCOPE_SYSTEM .. not sure if the const is where you expect it to be. http://rdoc.info:8080/github/costan/smartcard/Smartcard/PCSC/FFILib/Consts
<iMBA> _br_ thanks, but no luck buddy :(
<iMBA> read.rb:3:in `<main>': uninitialized constant Smartcard::PCSC::FFILib::Consts::SCOPE_SYSTEM (NameError)
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<_br_> iMBA: Looking through the gem, Smartcard::PCSC::FFILib::Consts::SCARD_SCOPE_SYSTEM really should work
<_br_> iMBA: its defined in smartcard/pcsc/ffi_autogen.rb
<iMBA> _br_ so i wonder why it doesnt! am i doing something incorrectly is what i want to evaluate...
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<_br_> iMBA: weird, what does context = Smartcard::PCSC::Context.new( :system ) say ?
<azariah4> Hi! What tutorial would you recommend for learning ruby?
<graspee> if you have experience of other languages, i would recommend reading teh pickaxe book
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<_br_> pickaxe is fine too, but quite boring
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<banisterfiend> _br_: which was your fave ruby book, after poignant guide
<azariah4> Would rather prefer a free source to start with, I can always buy a book later on.
<_br_> the old pickaxe should be free and open
<azariah4> _br_: iMBA thank you, will check those out
<_br_> banisterfiend: After _why's ? Hm, good question, probably pickaxe to get some other stuff straight. You?
<banisterfiend> _br_: the ruby programming language, by matz
<Spaceghostc2c> The black book of ruby. Well grounded rubyist.
<_br_> I see..
<banisterfiend> _br_: and then: ruby design patterns / eloquent ruby / refactoring: ruby edition
<_br_> holy cow, you read quite a lot on ruby. :)
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<banisterfiend> _br_: skimmed :)
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<iMBA> _br_ well that did get rid of the constant error
<iMBA> but on uncommenting the code further
<iMBA> require 'smartcard'
<iMBA> context = Smartcard::PCSC::Context.new( :system )
<iMBA> readers = context.list_readers nil
<iMBA> context.cancel
<iMBA> puts readers
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<iMBA> i get this read.rb:4:in `<main>': undefined method `list_readers' for #<Smartcard::PCSC::Context:0x00000000b309c0 @_handle=17029954> (NoMethodError)
<iMBA> which seems ridiculously strange!
<Paradox> azariah4, have you done http://tryruby.org
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<graspee> i wouldn't call the pickaxe boring. it's not dry and hard to understand like some very technical programming books. it's easy to read and approachable
<graspee> it's not packed with a laugh a minute and cartoon foxes but you want to learn programming right?
<Paradox> all of PragProgs books are great
<bnagy> it's also ancient and not really idiomatic anymore
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<graspee> hardly ancient
<Paradox> PragProgs is a breath of fresh air
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<Paradox> its like what o'reilley was 10 years ago
<azariah4> Paradox: cool, have to try this out
<Paradox> azariah4, its great
<Paradox> im using it at a "kids college" summercamp thing to teach programming
<Paradox> the kids love it
<Paradox> and so do i, because its free
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<azariah4> hehe
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<iMBA> _br_ this is a little strange :( https://gist.github.com/dc30097640d884b6c89b
<azariah4> I come from the Erlang world, and it looks like I'll get todo some Ruby at work later on, so I figured I need to get a solid grasp of it.
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<_br_> graspee: After 25+ languages you get really tired of the usual intro book, believe me.
<bnagy> iMBA: why is it strange? There's no list_readers method
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<graspee> _br_: it's a refence book as well as an intro book
<_br_> iMBA: Fire up irb, and then on the context object do a context.methods to see what is available to you. Probably you just need to do a little RTFM
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<bnagy> looks like readers is what you want
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<iMBA> _br_ will just check
<_br_> graspee: Reference? Hm, not really used it for that purpose ever, except in the very beginning.
<bnagy> my guess is that your docs are old
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<graspee> well at least half the book is a reference to the standard libs
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<iMBA> _br_ sure i will rtfm :)
<iMBA> bnagy ah! thanks :)
<bnagy> iMBA: what _br_ suggested is an incredibly useful technique in general though
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<bnagy> fire up irb / pry and look at methods / instance_methods on the stuff you're poking
<iMBA> bnagy _br_ sure i agree :)
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<iMBA> bnagy _br_ nevertheless, thanks a lot for taking the time.. i am across listing readers & moving on to reading tags... cheers :)
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<_br_> cheer! :)
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<vectorshelve> I need a good name for an album that has pictures of 1000+ year old temple... something like "Epitome of culture and tradition"... any suggestions for a suitable name please
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<graspee> "deprecated"
<_br_> mh?
<vectorshelve> ?????????????????????
<vectorshelve> I need a good name for an album that has pictures of 1000+ year old temple... something like "Epitome of culture and tradition"... any suggestions for a suitable name please
<artOfWar> a
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<vectorshelve> artOfWar: what ?
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<_br_> vectorshelve: gem install randexp; /\w+/.gen
<vectorshelve> _br_: what is that for ?
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<_br_> vectorshelve: generating random junk words ;)
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<vectorshelve> _br_: tell me some good caption man
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<_br_> vectorshelve: doesn't the temple have a name?
<graspee> it would help if we knew what sort of temple it was
<vectorshelve> _br_:
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<vectorshelve> _br_: yeah but that will be the sub caption.. I need a caption something like "Epitome of kerala culture and Tradition"
<graspee> it's difficult to think of an evocative caption when you don't know what you're evoking
<_br_> "The great Temple of Kerala"
<_br_> sorry no idea o.O
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<Spaceghostc2c> graspee: evoke THIS!
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<graspee> self
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<csmrfx> 8)
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<csmrfx> wat up banisterfiend
<banisterfiend> csmrfx: not a lot, what about u, carl?
<csmrfx> noon sun irc hideout
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<csmrfx> trying to figure out a syntax or even a grammar for the Spanish Inquisition
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<csmrfx> or, well "has"
<banisterfiend> csmrfx: why dont u do something else instead
<csmrfx> like wut
<banisterfiend> csmrfx: r*pe
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<csmrfx> well I have to wait for the sun to cool down a couple of hours and I thought Imma gonna drink coffee and look at the "persecute <subject> has <string-pattern> (<and/or-op> <element> has <string-pattern)"
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<csmrfx> I guess I'll have to write something that goes through the part after 'persecute' in argv item by item and calls methods conditionally
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<banisterfiend> csmrfx: rather than doing that, ill give u issues to resolve on some of my projects :D
<csmrfx> naw, you know I'm far too retarded to do that!
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<csmrfx> man I am easy to please. I think that autocomplete on command line ri args is awesome
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<csmrfx> does ruby have "next"? ie. skip the rest of the block and and start next iter (ri next says to_rdoc.rb:170:in `accept_verbatim': undefined method `join' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)
<csmrfx> +)
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<banisterfiend> csmrfx: use 'next'
<banisterfiend> csmrfx: srsly i didnt know you were that noobed out
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<csmrfx> i've never used next in ruby before
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<csmrfx> also, perl and js make me forget how good it is with ruby
<QE4> it took me a while to figure out when you want to match regex u have to do it inside / /'s (such as string.partition)
<csmrfx> I've started writing ';' at the end of each line
<banisterfiend> csmrfx: the train back to noobcity is about to leave, u better get on it, carl
<banisterfiend> ;)
<csmrfx> I've no striving to be the eleet coudarr
<csmrfx> kiip it simpul I say
<QE4> noob here too
<QE4> ruby syntax is unbelievably clean
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<banisterfiend> QE4: compared to what language?
<csmrfx> perls, thats fer sure
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<QE4> banisterfiend: pretty much everything Ive seen
<banisterfiend> QE4: what language do u come from
<QE4> .NET
<QE4> VB, java
<banisterfiend> QE4: what ruby syntax examples impressed u
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<QE4> banisterfiend: so far
<banisterfiend> QE4: can i see one?
<QE4> the attr accessors, "def" "end"
<banisterfiend> oh ok
<QE4> just little stuff that makes things clean
<banisterfiend> QE4: have u used python too?
<QE4> banisterfiend: yes a bit, i find it cleaner than python
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<QE4> compare just a method to something in VB
<QE4> Private Sub Blah(byVal blah As Integer, byVal blahblah As String) ..... End Sub
<QE4> vs def... end
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<QE4> while def(i, s) end
<QE4> well*
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<csmrfx> so much more fun to ruby than just the syntax
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<banisterfiend> csmrfx: do u like mandareeeeeens
<csmrfx> ya mean teh little orange like fruit
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<banisterfiend> csmrfx: hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!
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<csmrfx> yeah in fact I do sometimes
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<banisterfiend> csmrfx: Yeah.
<QE4> nokogiri was pretty easy to figure out
<QE4> now I can steal stuff from people's html tables
<csmrfx> banisterfiend: wut about mandareens?
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<wmoxam> I'm in yer codez, stealin' yer s3cretz
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<ub|k> hello all
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<Ethan> ub|k: hi
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<shevy> QE4 that's how gambas3 still looks :(
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<shevy> Dim sRes As String
<shevy> Dim aRes As String[]
<shevy> Dim cVal As New Collection
<QE4> yea i hate that
<QE4> String[] is an array of strings
<QE4> lmao
<daed> lol basic.
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<csmrfx> typed
<csmrfx> iow. C based pseudo
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<AxonetBE> I want to make a live counter on my homepage that shows the total of my objects in the database for ex amount of Products, what is the best way to do this?
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<csmrfx> objects in database?
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<AxonetBE> csmrfx: yes but with conditions
<csmrfx> total of your objects in the database
<csmrfx> with conditions
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<AxonetBE> csmrfx: yes, but if I do a count and I update the live counter every second with ajax it means I will have a single count query every second, I want to know if there is a better way to do this.
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<csmrfx> whats so magically important about this count being 100% accurate that you need to have it sent to every customers browser once per second?
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<shevy> AxonetBE you could try to keep track of ObjectSpace
<AxonetBE> No but it has to show to the customers that it is a good used system, for example like : http://sendgrid.com/
<csmrfx> just have it updated once a day
<shevy> you could output random values
<shevy> :)
<AxonetBE> hehe :)
<Devanon> Sure thats not asking the database at that speed xD
<shevy> hey that is a random counter for sure
<AxonetBE> Ok, I thought is was living counting of the records
<AxonetBE> live *
<csmrfx> cloud-based email system! what an awful idea
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<csmrfx> 8P
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<csmrfx> hmm, provincerock has Rico Tubbs on the turntables http://areena.yle.fi/tv/1587313/#/play
<Devanon> Ask for a value every minute or so, but dont change the value. Keep incrementing the actual value slowly up to the new value obtained :)
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<csmrfx> frankly, that is a marketing message and business data - transmitting the correct number would be both bad marketing and divulging secrets!
<bnagy> fwiw if I found a website that made me send a request every second not only would I never use that service again, but I would attempt to hunt down and kill the developer
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<QE4> Anyone here write stuff for rbot?
<banisterfiend> QE4: no, do u?
<QE4> just plugins banisterfiend
<QE4> its why i got into this whole thing
<banisterfiend> QE4: ruby is the best thing that ever happened to you in your life
<daed> ruby is the best thing that ever happened to me programming wise.
<daed> after consulting and dealing with 15 languages before it
<daed> it changed my life
<QE4> yea its a real pleasure to code with
<shevy> ruby could be simpler
<daed> now everything else just seems cumbersome and painful
<Devanon> AxonetBE Check the javascript for that web and you will find what the counter is doing xDDD
<daed> shevy; you could say that about any language
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<shevy> daed not really, php is dead simple
<Devanon> AxonetBE: home_counter += (71.01 >= 0.1 ? 71.01 : 0.1)
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<csmrfx> simplest way to out which member of an array comes first in an another array?
<Devanon> I think that is not a query… xD
<shevy> it got more complicated over the years
<daed> shevy; php is the most hideous language i've ever seen
<daed> outside of brainfuck
<shevy> homie_counter???
<daed> shevy; i wrote php for 15 years and it still makes me facepalm regularly
<shevy> daed sure. I'd never dispute that myself
<daed> as i stilld eal with it
<daed> unfortunately
<daed> php doesn't make logical sense in so many different ways
<daed> that type of confusion doesn't lend itself to be called 'simple'
<daed> just 'fucked up'
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<csmrfx> like I have an array of arguments that contain random order of "has" expressions with some "and" and "or" in the mix
<QE4> banisterfiend: not sure if uve heard of rbot, its an irc bot that lets you write plugins that are just ruby programs
<csmrfx> wats a good way to parse this?
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<csmrfx> and no, I dont want to use a parser generator or parser by someone else
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<csmrfx> ah well I guess I'll just split along the has
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<csmrfx> WTF ARGF
<locriani> WTF ARGV
<locriani> WTF ARGC
<shevy> WTF ARGB
<locriani> there's an argb somewhere?!
<locriani> whatsitstandfor
<shevy> no but I wanted to belong to this ARG group too :(
<banisterfiend> shevy: u broke the combo
<locriani> oh okay
<locriani> argument error not enough letters
<csmrfx> is it evil to unshift off ARGV?
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<locriani> depends
<locriani> is your computer made of cthulu
<csmrfx> well, I dont really know what ARGV is, so I better ask
<locriani> arg values
<locriani> arg c is arg count
<locriani> in C programming
<shevy> csmrfx, I think everything from ARGV is tainted input
<locriani> main(argc, argv) is what you get from the command line
<locriani> int argc, char** argv
<locriani> god making me remember C
<locriani> :/
<shevy> hehe
<locriani> but argc lets you know how many inputs there are
<shevy> it is the number one language at TIOBE
<locriani> and the argv is the actual values of the input
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<locriani> and you dereference twice based on the value of argc and the index of the argument you're looking for
<locriani> well
<locriani> dereference once
<locriani> then derefence again for the actual character values
<csmrfx> well, in C
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<locriani> yes
<locriani> in other languages
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<csmrfx> it's like perl
<csmrfx> why write C, in glue
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<csmrfx> lol
<csmrfx> anyway, I see
<locriani> you don't have to worry about crazy shit like pointers and memory dereferencing and madlibs
<shevy> perl is worse
<csmrfx> my point exactly
<shevy> at least with C you get speed
<shevy> but these days you could very well use ruby or python rather than perl
<shevy> or PHP!!!!!!!!
<locriani> ruby is actually very fast... except for the GC
<locriani> no
<locriani> get out
<shevy> lol
<locriani> NOOO I HAVE CONSUMED ALL THE IRC MESSAGES
<csmrfx> ruby -e "p ARGV.shift" NOO!!!!!
<shevy> imagine if every time you press enter on IRC, you have to pay 5 eurocent
<shevy> people would write only important things
<csmrfx> liek, in sms
<shevy> no more "brb, toilet" messages
<locriani> haha
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<shevy> why are there 588 people on #ruby
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<shevy> but like two days ago there were more than 700
<csmrfx> strange how lately there are like 12382378237 people on many of the channels and always in reality less than a dozen that speak
<daed> only logical explanation is that there were mass suicides, shevy
<shevy> csmrfx, well some channels are quite active
<locriani> csmrfx: there's some name for the phenomenon
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<csmrfx> lurkitis?
<locriani> 90% consumers, 10 producers or something?
<shevy> #linux and #python and #debian are among those with the most traffic
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<locriani> oh
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<locriani> 90-9-1 rule
<locriani> hurr
<shevy> who is the 1
<locriani> The "90–9–1" version of this rule states that 1% of people create content, 9% edit or modify that content, and 90% view the content without contributing.
<shevy> that bastard seems to always fall out of the rules
<shevy> oh
<locriani> and it's based off the pareto principle
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<shevy> creating things is harder than smashing them to pieces :)
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<locriani> I want that to be my job title
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<locriani> Senõr Thing Breaker
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<bnagy> shevy: speaking as someone who breaks stuff for a living, I don't think that rule is universal
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<csmrfx> args = [1,2,3,4]; args.each { |o| p o} unless args.shift == 2
<csmrfx> discuss
<shevy> end discuss
<workmad3> csmrfx: what about it?
<workmad3> csmrfx: with that array, it'll print 1, 2, 3 and 4
<locriani> why
<workmad3> oh wait, no it'll do 2, 3 and 4
<csmrfx> what if args.shift == 1
<workmad3> then it'll print nothing :P
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<locriani> why not puts (1..args.length).zip(args).each for complete insanity
<locriani> actually
<locriani> I don't think that works
<shevy> csmrfx, what I dislike here is that it makes the brain think, after reading the code before
<csmrfx> my example does not like either
<locriani> 1.9.3p125 :004 > puts (1..args.length).zip(args).each &:inspect rofl
<csmrfx> s/like/work/
<locriani> 1.9.3p125 :005 > puts args.zip.each &:inspect
<shevy> your example does not like work either?
<locriani> THIS WORKS
<csmrfx> dis, like, works
<workmad3> csmrfx: oh man, your code has some weird unicode crap in it
<locriani> ohh duh
<locriani> puts args.each &:inspect
<locriani> why am I zipping
<workmad3> csmrfx: copy-pasted it, it complains
<csmrfx> hm
<csmrfx> so THAT's why it errors like hell
<workmad3> csmrfx: yeah
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<shevy> :D
<csmrfx> I was like WTH is wrong here
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<workmad3> csmrfx: I got undefined method ` p' for main:Object
<workmad3> csmrfx: when I changed that to a normal space, I got/Users/workmad3/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p125/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:728:in `block in lex_int2': invalid byte sequence in UTF-8 (ArgumentError)
<workmad3> csmrfx: so... great fun :)
<workmad3> csmrfx: typed it out again fully and it worked as I described though
<csmrfx> yeah
<csmrfx> same here
<csmrfx> little utf gremlins
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<workmad3> gotta love that ruby allows utf8 in method names
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<workmad3> you can use a utf8 non-breaking space as an identifier... now *that* causes wobblies :)
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<Xethron> Hello, I'm having trouble reading a single string from a MySQL DB..... http://pastebin.com/4a8043V8
<workmad3> because it looks like ' = "hello"; puts ' and it'll print out "hello"... (can't copy-past that, I'd need to look up the unicode char to do it properly)
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<workmad3> right, g2g
<workmad3> have fun all
<Xethron> cheers workmad3
<csmrfx> workmad3: hm, should have editors show that space
<csmrfx> workmad3: u tuu
<Xethron> When I change @irc.message( from, "link: " + link ) to @irc.message( from, "link: " ) it prints out "link:", but when I put it back, it doesn't print anything
<csmrfx> put what back
<Xethron> so link isn't blank, it contains something that doesn't want to be processed
<Xethron> the var link
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<Xethron> csmrfx @irc.message( from, "link: " ) => Prints "Link: " like it should
<Xethron> @irc.message( from, "link: " + link ) => doesn't do anything
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<csmrfx> whats in method "message" as argument def?
<csmrfx> also, has u defined "link" as an var and given it a val
<bnagy> Xethron: don't use + to build strings, use str << other_str or "foo #{ somevar }"
<Xethron> bnagy: @irc.message( from, "link: " << link )
<Xethron> like that?
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<bnagy> yeah, but in case link isn't a string the interpolated form is usually better
<bnagy> "link: #{link}"
* Xethron tries that
<QE4> Xethron: link.to_s ?
<Xethron> QE4, tried that :/
<Xethron> didn't work
<Xethron> csmrfx: also, has u defined "link" as an var and given it a val >>> What do you mean?
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<QE4> Xethron: u should check the exception
<Xethron> QE4, how do I do that?
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<QE4> Xethron: if ur code bombs and you dont catch the exception there is a chance it'll go wrong without having a way to alert you
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<QE4> Xethron: chances are an exception is occuring which is why the @irc.message line just does nothing
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<Xethron> ok, lemme check
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<csmrfx> let me guess
<csmrfx> TypeError
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<Devanon> "text #{var1} #{var2}" or 'text ' << var1 << ' ' << var2 ? What is better?
<apeiros> former
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<Xethron> hmmmmm, weird
<Xethron> It doesn't wanne print the e.message even
<Xethron> sec
<shevy> Xethron perhaps it is empty
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<QE4> it should still print "link: " if empty
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<shevy> hehe
<shevy> hmm
<shevy> are objects nothing more than namespaced methods with datastructures attached to some of them?
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<csmrfx> str = ["p", "foo"]; eval str.shift str.shift # or how?
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<shevy> ack
<shevy> eval!
<shevy> evaaaaaaaaal!
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<csmrfx> str = ["p", "fooo"]; eval "#{str.shift} '#{str.shift}'" # does work
<ramblex> eval ["p", "'foo'"].join(' ')
<csmrfx> funny how the string is already a string in the arr and then one has to re-denote that somehow
<csmrfx> for eval
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<locriani> eval eval eval
<locriani> wat
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<shevy> wtf
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<locriani> BRAIN
<locriani> THING
<shevy> DESTROY
<shevy> locriani, I feel we are practically brothers in spirit
<locriani> RAARGH
<locriani> a+
<shevy> RAGE
<shevy> ANGRY
<shevy> EVAL
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* csmrfx evaleet
<shevy> THIS MEANS WAR!!!
<locriani> EVAL
<locriani> YOUR
<locriani> SOUL
<csmrfx> THIS MEANS VAR!
<locriani> THIS MEANS ARG
<locriani> !
<shevy> nice one
<shevy> almost reads like lolcode too
<csmrfx> THIS MEANS the current object scope in javascript
<OccamRazor> ugh
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<shevy> I hate all usage of this
<locriani> oooh! oooh!! a javascript joke
<shevy> in php it is $this->bla() right?
<ramblex> yes
<locriani> haha I think we scared off OccamRazor
<shevy> yeah
<locriani> I hate
<locriani> how php
<locriani> doesn't use any consistent member syntax
<locriani> -> and .
<Xethron> QE4, ok, I put in some markers to see what it does
<locriani> in C++ it's an explicit derefence
<locriani> in PHP
<shevy> well, I think perl uses -> too
<locriani> it's a fuck we felt like it
<locriani> at least perl is consistent :/
<shevy> hehehe
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<locriani> also
<locriani> I was debugging a script the other day
<bnagy> anyone ever seen a LoadError on recent WIndows with the error 'the operation completed successfully"?
<locriani> that used _.
<locriani> I wanted
<bnagy> in ffi... stuff works on xp
<locriani> to murder
<csmrfx> has arh[1] if arh[0] == "has" # you like this better than eval?
<shevy> ack
<locriani> eval is slow
<locriani> like
<shevy> eval is evil
<csmrfx> I was wondering that
<locriani> I don't think people understand how slow eval is
<locriani> it's like
<shevy> eval forces your brain to think
<locriani> taking your code
<locriani> through a blender
<shevy> will it blend?
<locriani> then taking the wet soppy glue of your printed code
<locriani> feeding it through a scanner
<csmrfx> there are only 3 things to eval in my code: "has", "and" and "or"
<locriani> then having a neural net reassemble the pieces
<QE4> Xethron: yup?
<locriani> and then running your code through ruby
<locriani> ok not quite that bad
<locriani> but eval is evil
<csmrfx> it's funny how using the ruby parser to parse your own code is "evil"
<Xethron> lemme copy to Pastebin rather
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<locriani> well
<locriani> it's parsing it again
<locriani> it has uses
<Xethron> QE4 and csmrfx: http://pastebin.com/ieAuaXDX
<locriani> but problem 1: it's slow
<csmrfx> and supposedly making your own parser on top of the ruby parser is "faster"
<locriani> problem 2: it's super easy to be insecure
<csmrfx> see my point
<shevy> csmrfx one day you will understand why eval is hated so much
<csmrfx> I think I know well what eval is from lisp, scheme, javascript...
<csmrfx> have not used eval with ruby
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<QE4> Xethron: so whats the output
<locriani> here's the thing
<Xethron> It doesn't output anything
<locriani> eval works at times
<locriani> and has a spot in the toolbox
<locriani> but it's like ducttape
<locriani> if you need ducttape, use it
<Xethron> QE4, as you can see in the pastebin, it fails when it trys to set error e
<locriani> if the proper repair is not using ducttape
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<locriani> then you have a problem waiting to happen
<csmrfx> I think I will eval the booleans and "and"s and "or"s, like it or not
<Xethron> it fails on the irc.message and the error e
<csmrfx> if evaling booleans with ops is slow, so be it
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<shevy> hey it's your code
<ramblex> you can fix anything with ducttape or wd40
<shevy> but I am sure one day you will start to hate eval :)
<csmrfx> nah
<QE4> Xethron: you have to look at @irc.message chances are there is something wrong with it then
<Xethron> ramblex, I tried ducktaping my code, it doesn't fix
<shevy> lol
<bnagy> Xethron: if you get no rows your code will blow up
<shevy> tape that duck, TAPE IT!
<bnagy> put the @irc.message inside the rows.each
<ramblex> obviously need more tape
<csmrfx> I may start to hate people who misuse eval, but then again, world is full of real injustice waiting to be resolved
<QE4> lol bingo
<QE4> Xethron: or set link = "" first
<Xethron> awesome, lemme try
<bnagy> well you don't want to send a blank message if there are no links
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<bnagy> I assume
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<QE4> completely missed that
<QE4> well thats cool now he knows how to catch exceptions
<bnagy> ok I need to play pool and drink
<csmrfx> haha!
<Xethron> QE4: There are links though. The DB is full of em
<shevy> bnagy :(
<csmrfx> sounds liek a plan, bnagy!
<shevy> bnagy you abandon us like that!
<bnagy> l8s rubybunnies
<locriani> why
<shevy> damn it
<locriani> am I a bunny
<shevy> I need to buy beer...
<Xethron> ^ bnagy. Ment for you actuallyu
<locriani> I read that
<locriani> I need to buy bear
<locriani> and I was very confussled.
<shevy> beerbunnies
<locriani> bearbunnies
<csmrfx> I might go for some pool after some parkour
<shevy> man
<csmrfx> maybe some dry cider in the middle
<shevy> in the past, ruby hackers wrote ruby code non stop
<shevy> now they drink, pool, parkour and do other things
<ramblex> bearbunnies…sounds like some weird porn
<shevy> what has become of this world!
<locriani> laundry day, see you there
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<locriani> underthings, tumbling
<Xethron> QE4 bnagy: It works!
<locriani> wanna say, love your hair
<locriani> here I go
<Xethron> I just set link = ""
<locriani> mumbling
<Xethron> and it works
<shevy> locriani you are a weird person
<csmrfx> haha, my laundry is in the machine, waiting for it to finish to go parkourin'
<QE4> Xethron: yeah so that is exactly the problem, the query is empty
<locriani> shevy: have you not seen dr horrible's sing along blog?
<shevy> locriani no, I dont even know who that is
<Xethron> QE4 bnagy: Thank you so much! I been struggeling with it for ages
<Xethron> QE4: no, it outputs the links too
<csmrfx> Parkour: my back deserves good 2 hours of muscle torture today, and so does yours
<locriani> csmrfx: I wish I could do parkour, I'm bad and my most activity is running, biking, and swimming
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<QE4> hmm
<csmrfx> I cant really do much either, but that is why I train
<locriani> omg
<banisterfiend> csmrfx: god parkourin looks so damn gay
<locriani> shevy: you are missing out
<banisterfiend> "im a weird european and i like jumping over walls"
<locriani> er
<locriani> wait
<locriani> better link
<csmrfx> I am aiming to be able to walk on hands. 25 meters. I can just barely handstand.
<csmrfx> maybe in September 25m.
<Xethron> QE4: Not sure why, but it works 100% now. Query and everything. No idea why it wants to start with link being blank
<locriani> csmrfx: how did you get started?
<Xethron> QE4: maybe when I set link = "" it sees it as a string?
<Xethron> and then keeps it a string?
<locriani> shevy: but seriously
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<locriani> Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog is the best fucking thing since sliced bread
<csmrfx> locriani: I did a lot of swimming and biking, and then yoga but yoga felt kinda lame, so I just did stuff like pushups and handstands on the beach
<locriani> PLUS it stars NPH
<csmrfx> watched parkour vids on the utub
<locriani> csmrfx: heh
<csmrfx> some very goof ones
<locriani> I used to be in shape
<csmrfx> +1
<locriani> now I'm round
<locriani> ok not really
<csmrfx> my back is killing me after a week at work without hardcore training
<locriani> but I did gain some weight, and I haven't actually been taking good care of myself
<csmrfx> yeah dev needs a strong back
<shevy> csmrfx wtf you muscle man!
<csmrfx> not yet
<locriani> shevy: oh plus it's written by Joss Whedon
<csmrfx> can only do 5 pullups in row
<shevy> weight gain is bad
<locriani> csmrfx: what do you look like now? after parkour
<locriani> er
<locriani> that sounds like I want to oogle you
<csmrfx> only 1 upsidedown/handstand pushup
<csmrfx> locriani: I look normal, with some round fat belly
<locriani> haha
<locriani> I meant
<shevy> ON THE PARKOUR
<csmrfx> yeah sometimes chicks laugh at the park when I do my stuff cause of the belly
<locriani> did it help with muscle mass / weight loss?
<locriani> shevy: are you watching Dr Horrible yet!?
<csmrfx> locriani: it helps if you put in work and sweat
<locriani> csmrfx: kek
<shevy> locriani no, I am watching IRC right now
<locriani> shevy: BAD.
<locriani> WATCH
<locriani> DR HORRIBLE
<locriani> SING ALONG
<locriani> BLOG
<csmrfx> also, not locking into mindless mode, and actually thinking about what exercise to do helps burn/build strength
<locriani> seriously, your life will be improved by at least 1.3% if you watch it
<csmrfx> mass I dont give a fuck about, useless
<locriani> heh
<csmrfx> hehe, ultimately I got into it cause it's fun to do exercises and balance and gymnastics and yoga is too gay for me and the gym is too gorilla for me
<csmrfx> +fun outside, I sit inside all day at work
<locriani> GORILLA
<locriani> HURGHHH
<shevy> I love gymnastics
<locriani> I never got into gymnastics
<locriani> I wish I did
<shevy> my idol is damien walters
<shevy> well it's a young people's thing
<locriani> jeez dude is stacked
<locriani> I'm young
<locriani> :/
<locriani> 25!
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<sovremenius> hi
<sovremenius> how can i run eval globally?
<csmrfx> well this is how I look + pot belly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ut0s06bEm4
<sovremenius> eval(code, Kernel.binding) does'nt work
<locriani> shevy: oh gawd
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<csmrfx> sovremenius: Kernel.eval ?
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<dekroning> i'm using minitest at the moment, but when I have a minitest/spec file with a it "should be false" do false end it's giving my green tests
<csmrfx> shevy thats Walters in the vid btw ^
<locriani> csmrfx: wait
<locriani> I've seen this video
<locriani> like
<locriani> forever ago
<locriani> a friend was like WATCH THIS
<csmrfx> My strenght is low though, got maybe 1/5th of the air he gets
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<shevy> hehe
<csmrfx> hehe the most off topic jive ever
<shevy> locriani 25 is not that young anymore!
<locriani> :P
<shevy> it takes a few years to train to any impressive language
<hatoishi> quit
<hatoishi> ha
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<locriani> haha
<shevy> lol
<locriani> ok going afk to take care of house cleaning
<locriani> :V
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<csmrfx> gg
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<Mavericks> hello all
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<dekroning> I'm trying my best to understand/learn TDD way of writing code, I have some sample code in my head, and did some quick analysis and I ended up needing a CarRadioInterface to make sure I can hookup different types of CarRadio's. But now i'm wondering how to start about writing the tests, I should start with the intergration tests. But now i'm wondering if I should begin with testing my interface or start with the CarRadio objects isntead?
<Mavericks> dekroning: you have to start on something
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<j0nathan_> hello
<Mavericks> doesn't matter which if TDD way of writing's the focus
<Mavericks> dekroning: get cracking on one and then you will realize eventually. usually interface would be nice
<Mavericks> j0nathan_: hello
<Mavericks> I get the following error - Errno::ECONNREFUSED: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. - connect(2)
<dekroning> Mavericks: ok thanks for the tip
<dekroning> Mavericks: I just feel really dumb each time I try out TDD because I get stuck so soon :-)
<Mavericks> at line Net::SMTP.start('localhost') do |smtp|
<csmrfx> just write a test for the thing the whole thing should do, first
<Mavericks> dekroning: where exactly you get stuck? may be you focus more on that or single out the root cause thing could improve. unless it's normal to get stuck at the beginning
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<Mavericks> dekroning: wait for others advice or tip too. i'm not a tdd professional but have read a bit about it and used that approach a a little
<dekroning> Mavericks: thanks for asking, let me try to explain :-)
<csmrfx> like, test if once the whole thing is done, it returns the car-radio's name string or something
<dekroning> Mavericks: so on whiteboard I started out sketing something, idea was to make a Car Radio and make sure I stick to the SOLID principles. So I have it drawn on the whiteboard, conforming all the principles (it was pretty quick to draw) so then I, switch back to my computer and forgot what I did on the whiteboard, and try to work from the outside in. So I would like to start with the integration tests without mocking/stubbing so that i'm sure my code integr
<csmrfx> complex stuff is complex
<dekroning> csmrfx: yes I would also like to start to write my first test, as if the whole thing already works (integration test)
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<csmrfx> I just call em tests
<dekroning> but then i'm thining, if I'm the end use of this CarRadio, i' thinking it's a bit weired to instantie radio = CarRadioInterface.new i would probably like to do radio = CarRadio.new
<csmrfx> radio = MakeConnection
<dekroning> car = Car.new(CarRadio.new)
<dekroning> MakeConnection? as in a Factory/Builder object ?
<csmrfx> myRadio = Connect( "usb1" )
<csmrfx> yeah
<csmrfx> I mean, the object at hand really isn't a car radio
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<csmrfx> and you still want to have a simple logical syntac
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<csmrfx> instead of Connector.makeUsbBridgeConnector(RADIOCLASS)
<dekroning> right, so actually I want some factory/builder object create the CarRadio for me
<csmrfx> or some such thing
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<csmrfx> hm, how about using http as a metaphor for this
<csmrfx> you dont really call the remote servers Server in your code
<dekroning> great metaphor
<dekroning> I see what you trying to say now inded
<csmrfx> or the connections or their responses Server either
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<csmrfx> maybe you could just have request and response
<csmrfx> CarRadioConnection perhaps
<j0nathan_> is it possible to write an ruby extension that overwrites the native '**'? So that i could write: 56321232**87656 and a specialised c-code would calculate that?
<csmrfx> hm, where is **
<dekroning> csmrfx: thinking really hard about this :-)
<csmrfx> ri just returns weird stuff for 'ri **'
<csmrfx> dekroning: just fire up irb and let the language and driver constraints do the thinking for you
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<Mavericks> Net::SMTP.start('localhost') do |smtp| gives me
<dekroning> Mavericks: you have any thoughts on that TDD process ?
<Mavericks> following error
<Mavericks> Errno::ECONNREFUSED: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. - connect(2)
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<csmrfx> maybe you dont have the rights to open up new ports
<csmrfx> or get a socker
<csmrfx> *t
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<csmrfx> Mavericks: also - new server instace first, then start afaics
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<csmrfx> or just
<csmrfx> ri Net::SMTP.start
<Mavericks> csmrfx: yeah i don't have an instance running or any suhc
<csmrfx> so how can your localhost make a new conn?
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<Mavericks> but I'm root on my system. http://localhost gives nothing
<Mavericks> csmrfx: oh lol i see
<csmrfx> Answer: Errno::ECONNREFUSED: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.
<Mavericks> dumbed out myself there too
<csmrfx> your OS is like "WTF does that ruby POS think I have smtp open or somesuchshit - no way Imma accepting conns"
<Mavericks> dekroning: didn't take a look yet. give me some time . i wonder if there's an irc channel for test driven development. i know one person who would love to discuss it with you. and there are mailing lists of course
<Mavericks> csmrfx: rofl
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<dekroning> Mavericks: yeah indeed
<csmrfx> just keep it effin simple
<csmrfx> discuss it all you like
<csmrfx> then realize: TDD is just to impose a set of tests to make sure you get some aspect working and dont break stuff while working other aspects
<csmrfx> so dont architect the shit out of what is a bunch of "yes/no" questions essentially
<Xethron> Can you put a rescue inside a rescue's rescue bracket?
* Xethron wonders if that sounded confusing
<apeiros> Xethron: you can put a begin/rescue/end within a rescue.
<Xethron> awesome
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<Xethron> might need to do that
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<Mavericks> csmrfx: so, localhost works i.e localhost:80 , but I still get the same error
<csmrfx> non comprende
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<Mavericks> csmrfx: wait why? i thought all i need is a server instance running, and then there would be no problem opening ports
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<csmrfx> so, you have a smtp server up?
<Mavericks> ooowwhh pawned!
<Mavericks> http :(
<j0nathan_> hm. is there any way to accelerate calculations like (1+2**3)/4 with c/cuda extensions?
<csmrfx> whats wrong with my earlier advice?
<csmrfx> ri Net::SMTP.start
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<csmrfx> j0nathan_: you mean, with ruby?
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<csmrfx> or simple arithmetic in general?
<j0nathan_> in ruby
<csmrfx> j0nathan_: ok, I guess we have to start with the basics
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<csmrfx> you already have the internet I see
<csmrfx> do you know how to use an internet search engine?
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<csmrfx> you can use them to search for information on various topics with keyword arguments
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<csmrfx> see for example:
<QE4> Xethron: tbh I dont really see a need for that. If you have problems it'll populate up to the highest exception rescue
<QE4> Xethron: well it depends what you're coding, if its complicated then yea maybe
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<j0nathan_> i already searched for that.
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<csmrfx> so why do you ask?
<j0nathan_> but that is not my problem
<Xethron> QE4: I want to make an SQL Query that will fail if there isn't data in its reference table (99% of the time there will be), then I not, it will add the data. However, if the problem is with the SQL server, it will fail again, and then I wish to notify the user
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<csmrfx> well, u asked for a "way to accelerate calculations... with c/cuda with ruby"
<QE4> Xethron: why not just put an catch around the SQL query, and if the query returns 0 lines add the data instead
<Xethron> QE4: Its an insert into statement, doesn't return anything.
<QE4> Xethron: well its up to you
<Xethron> INSERT INTO logs (`type`, `from`, `nick`, `host`, `message`) VALUES (" + msg_type + ",(SELECT id FROM channel WHERE name = '" + from + "'),(SELECT id FROM user WHERE nick = '" + nick + "' AND user = '" + user + "'),(SELECT id FROM host WHERE hostmask = '" + host + "'),'" + message + "')
<csmrfx> why not test for working DB IO at the start of the session
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<csmrfx> BTW
<csmrfx> this is NOT #SQL
<Xethron> It gets the id's from other tables....
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<Xethron> csmrfx, it could be?
<csmrfx> It could be you should paste your SQL code somewhere lese.
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<csmrfx> *else
<Xethron> it could be.... It also could be a Monday on another planet somewhere else in the galaxy
<Xethron> So many vars.... so little time :/
<csmrfx> yep, so you better get with the plan, and stop wasting time, yours or mine
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<csmrfx> here, #ruby 8)
<Xethron> :P
<csmrfx> somewhere else in the galaxy, perhaps SQL
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<j0nathan_> csmrfx: sorry. what i meant was how i could declare a function that is called with an '**', like 5**7. then it could be calculated by an extension that uses cuda.
<apeiros> j0nathan_: def **(other)
<csmrfx> next Q: "But how do I know what 'this' is="
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<csmrfx> s/=/?
<dekroning> I forgot how to remove the Module namespace in my files, I thought it was something like "include Foo" so I don't have todo Foo::Bar.new
<csmrfx> extend you mean?
<csmrfx> ri extend
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<dekroning> I would like in my main code line, to type Bar.new instead of Foo::Bar.new
<apeiros> dekroning: yes. if Foo is a module, then you can do `include Foo; Bar.new` instead of `Foo::Bar.new`
<csmrfx> hm, I guess Im not sure what tq is
<dekroning> apeiros: where can i place this include Foo? Because I just tried but doesn't work for me require 'some_module'; include Foo; b = Bar.new
<dekroning> some module would contain: module Foo; class Bar; end; end
<csmrfx> perhaps error message tells the truth
<apeiros> dekroning: then it should work
<apeiros> dekroning: if it doesn't, then you don't have what you just said you'd have…
<dekroning> apeiros: ok, let me double check :-) because now it's complain that there isn't a #new method on Foo module
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<j0nathan_> apeiros: thx. But how do i use it? the irb doesn't seem to do that
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<shevy> dekroning modules do not have .new
<shevy> dekroning if you want to use .new, you have to use a class rather than a module
<apeiros> j0nathan_: class X; def **(other); p other; end; end; X.new ** 2
<apeiros> and "irb doesn't have that" makes no sense.
<apeiros> irb evaluates normal ruby.
<shevy> cool, I never saw "def **" before :)
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<dekroning> ahhh I see why :-) my module is called Foo and my class in that module is also called Foo e.g. foo = Foo::Foo.new so when I use include Foo, and try to use Foo.new it thinks it's the module, and I want the class instead
<shevy> now I begin to understand why people prefer classes rather than modules :P
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<shevy> they like .new too much
<apeiros> dekroning: yeah, that doesn't work
<apeiros> it makes *little* sense to have Foo::Foo anyway
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<shevy> dekroning you can also do this: class Foo; class Foo
<cek> where can i get the yaml syck guide on how to serialize new types?
<apeiros> shevy: yes. but then he can't include Foo…
<shevy> like those... babushka dolls, those russiand wooden dolls inside a doll inside a doll
<shevy> apeiros hmm true
<shevy> cek isn't this written down in the documentation?
<shevy> (hahaha bad joke I know :D)
<cek> yeah, exactly
<j0nathan_> apeiros: thanks. i tried to write something like this: test=X.new;test**3
<cek> getting #<YAML::DomainType from object load, so i guess it can't find something
<dekroning> apeiros: actually indeed, I don't want a module in this case. I just tried to write my business logic inside a ruby gem. So I started with "bundle gem foo" and it generates that module Foo; end
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<apeiros> j0nathan_: if you've defined ** on X, then that should work.
<dekroning> shevy: well actually I recently learned that in your production could you don't want to use .new but instead try to use factories. But for test code it's the opposite, that you want to call the .new's so you can test in isolation
<apeiros> dekroning: namespacing all in your gem otoh makes *a lot* of sense
<j0nathan_> okay. im confused.
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<dekroning> apeiros: right so in my cause, I made a gem called 'car-radio' which generates a module CarRadio; end and I wanted to to be able to create a CarRadio instance so I did module CarRadio; class CarRadio; end; end but maybe I should be calling either my module or main class different indeed
<apeiros> j0nathan_: http://codepad.org/rUgAxHcS
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<apeiros> j0nathan_: can't help you with "confused". you'll need to be more specific.
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<j0nathan_> i thought that i have already tried that
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<Mavericks> csmrfx: having trouble starting an smtp server, and i'm on windows vista
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<csmrfx> Mavericks: well, Vista is pure shit from top to bottom
<Mavericks> csmrfx: you are on a roll
<csmrfx> get crunchbang or ubuntu as if your life depended on it Mavericks
<Mavericks> csmrfx: hahaha
<csmrfx> gtg store
<Mavericks> csmrfx: i want to man desperately. just need to get a new machine. even running a vm with it sucks
<Mavericks> for now , i'm trying to see if i can use something else instead of localhost and following details at http://www.tutorialspoint.com/ruby/ruby_sending_email.htm
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<Mavericks> may be smtp.gmail.com and then authenticate it to send an email to myself
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<csmrfx> parkour time
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<csmrfx> begin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ut0s06bEm4 rescue ambulance end
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<Mavericks> csmrfx: finally got it working used smtp.gmail.com , was tricky. for a moment i thought i was never gonna get it
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<Mavericks> hung in and stuck at it . finally
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<seanstickle> csmrfx: That guy is bald because all his hair was so scared by the death defying stunts, it ran away
<csmrfx> heh, gg
* csmrfx is bald too
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<csmrfx> my hair got bored and left
<seanstickle> Do you do death defying stunts?
<seanstickle> Oh
<csmrfx> beat ya to it
<Mavericks> csmrfx: how did I miss that? which episode was that heh
<csmrfx> ah well, tyme to rock the asphalt
<Mavericks> dekroning: how is TDD coming along ?
<dekroning> Mavericks: actually it is! i'm really excited about it :-)
<dekroning> Mavericks: in my integration tests I eventually did: radio = CarRadioFactory.build("SonyXZ800")
<dekroning> Mavericks: then build the simple factory, and withing the factory I returned SonyXZ800.new and from there on started unit testing the SonyXZ800 class
<Mavericks> Awesome. so glad to hear
<dekroning> i'm now just struggling with how in minitest I can expect a raise of an excpetion "Unknown radio type" lambda { CarRadioFactory.build("unknown_type") }.must_raise "Unknown radio type"
<dekroning> not getting that working at the moment, but reading through the minitest documentation now :-)
<Mavericks> i'm sure you will get it soon. it's fun journey
<dekroning> yeah finally some piece of the puzzle start to get together which is awesome feeling :-)
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<deryl> good to see others struggle besides myself, and be around to see when they say hey! I'm getting it!
* deryl keeps *me* rolling
<deryl> s/deryl//
<dekroning> deryl: i've been struggling with this for quite some time, lot's of reading about the subject, but still when it got to the actual coding I failed
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<Mavericks> dekroning: yes, that feeling is amazing. isn't it? best feeling ever. nothing can beat that. it's a real thrill even if it's small
<deryl> thats how i came at this too. read read read read read read, try try, read sme more, fail constantly, read more, try, HEY IT WORKED! (Why?)
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<azariah4> nokogiri is the recommended HTML parser for ruby?
<Mavericks> deryl: heh. true that. nice
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<cek> okay, i'm lost now between the syck types. i'm trying to have a nested :seq mapping there.
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<cek> map.add('key', subnode) . Now the subnode is another :seq.
<seanstickle> azariah4: yes
<cek> doesn't allow me to do that. docs are nonexistant in syck
<deryl> Mavericks: no where near where i want to be, but least now i can see that i *can* get there. and i got the best ammo in the world for this target! TIME! :)
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<dekroning> deryl: your also strugging with TDD or somet different subject ?
<Mavericks> deryl: aah. brilliant. thanks for saying that out. TIME. makes me feel happy and hope that I will have more of that too :)
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<deryl> cek something maybe to investigate, someone told me (and i *think* it was headius but i can't swear to it) that there are two 'syck' job choices. think he was saying the one in rubyisn't that great but there is a replacement which just a recompile allows you to select. can ask around in here and #ruby-lang for what syck's alternative is.
<deryl> dekroning: i admit it, i struggle with all of it.
<dekroning> deryl: haha yeah I know that feeling as well ;-)
<cek> deryl, i know that theres' psych, but that doesn't help me.
<deryl> dekroning: itts hard for me to stay on rote (which you need to do to bootstrap yourself), and want right at the Hey Look! I Can Fly!
<cek> it just replaces the emitter, not the core structure
<cek> and the core structure is undocumented
<deryl> cek got ya
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<cek> its like datetime class.
<cek> no # chars in the file, you know
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<dekroning> anyone here that actually writes Interfaces in Ruby?
<dekroning> Abstract classes
<shevy> nope
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<Spaceghostc2c> dekroning: Yes.
<shevy> Spaceghost2java!
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: good :-) because i'm looking at design pricniples and thinking this is nice, but then I start to wonder why in Ruby you would need it, because it's just so dynamic, but I guess you make it because it's just a layer of abstraction for your mental mode right ?
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<deryl> might be an aid, idk
<Spaceghostc2c> dekroning: I do it because I dig api's that don't suck
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: haha :-) elaborate please
<shevy> abstract public void changeGear(int newValue);
<Spaceghostc2c> For instance, in rails, I'm splitting away business models with persistence-related behaviours and making my codebase adhere to the SRP.
<deryl> Spaceghostc2c: if not having abstract classes means something sucks, then why run ruby?
<shevy> wow, just wow
<shevy> java coders must get paid by amount of characters used
<deryl> he's so good at the buzz words ;)
<Spaceghostc2c> deryl: Because there's years and years of OO design that backs up interfaces and SRP.
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<deryl> Spaceghostc2c: well then by that token we should all dump every other OS except freebsd and/or the old AT&T
<Spaceghostc2c> deryl: Not sure I get the correlation.
<deryl> because there's years and years of OS design that backs up the OS. so using anything that differs from that must be junk
<Spaceghostc2c> You can ignore the design principles if you'd like, I don't mind. I just don't do it.
<Spaceghostc2c> deryl: OO design has not changed by and large for years.
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<shevy> ok so ruby uses the same OOP as java
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<seanstickle> Well, we *should* dump all the other OSes except FreeBSD
<seanstickle> So that may not be the strongest part of your argument
<deryl> seanstickle: hehe
<Spaceghostc2c> Chances are, Kent Beck already covered it.
<shevy> freebsd stinks
<deryl> bye bye windows bye bye linux, bye bye mac osx
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<Spaceghostc2c> I guess some don't take kindly to design patterns.
<shevy> someone of the US army recently switched their windows drones to linux or something
<seanstickle> Some people don't like formalisms
<Spaceghostc2c> You know, MVC came from the same era.
<shevy> now linux kills more people than windows :(
<seanstickle> Me, I enjoy studying the sigma calculus and other object calculi
<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: Some people should migrate to PHP. :(
<deryl> OSs don't kill. people do.
<deryl> just like guns. Guns don't kill, people do
<seanstickle> And I'm reading Beck's "Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns"
<seanstickle> Very nice book
<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: Good stuff, right?
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: yes
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<shevy> the better gun kills more
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<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: I'm applying stuff I'm learning, it's really fun.
<deryl> the person who knows how to make better use of the weapon kills more. :)
<deryl> ;p
<seanstickle> Also reading A Theory of Objects
<deryl> thats the one i want
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<seanstickle> Which is goddamn brilliant
<deryl> Theory of Objects
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<shevy> what is "A Theory of Objects"?
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<deryl> hahaha
<deryl> seanstickle: too fast for me
<seanstickle> It's a delightful read
<seanstickle> Working on a series of blog posts about that book's argument and Ruby implementations
<Spaceghostc2c> I must acquire a PDF.
<shevy> hehe
<Spaceghostc2c> Anywhere selling a digital version?
<shevy> bit expensive
<Spaceghostc2c> shevy: I just don't want physical books.
<Spaceghostc2c> Even if the ebook is ~$150, I don't mind.
<seanstickle> You can buy the Kindle version
<Spaceghostc2c> Oh, look, found it. Kindle version.
<seanstickle> $128
<deryl> Spaceghostc2c: was gonna say
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: I agree
<deryl> amazon showed it in kindle format for 152
<shevy> I actually prefer physical books still
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: I agree
<Spaceghostc2c> shevy: Cute.
<Spaceghostc2c> dekroning: wat
<shevy> you can make coloured notes and it's a lot easier to memorize
<dekroning> :-)
<deryl> i read both kinds, i buy the physical books most of the time because i think the feel of the book, the turning of the pages etc helps me retain more, but i do use both
<deryl> i find i reread less with the paper than the digital though
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<azariah4> I've selected meta tags from a webpage with nokogiri using doc.css('meta'), how can I select attributes within these tags?
<seanstickle> I read more paper books than I used to
<seanstickle> But also more PDFs
<deryl> engaging more of the senses with the paper version
<seanstickle> My living room is piled high with books
<shevy> heeh
<deryl> seanstickle: before i moved up here to canada mine was. mine is starting to get back that way
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<seanstickle> Like some sort of Programming Hoarder
<deryl> moving was a rush job so couldn't afford and didnt plan to take all the books
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<fakingfantastic> I need to make a source code viewer - what is the most efficient way to parse a string for new line and turn it into an array for each line?
<deryl> movig back to the states in about 2 months so everything i've replaced is coming this time heheh
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<Spaceghostc2c> I have two kindles, so I kind of like reading digital versions.
<deryl> Spaceghostc2c: i use my transformer tablet for that. and of course the MBP
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<dekroning> strange irssi got all crazy
<dekroning> damn now I missed outon the OO talk :)
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<shevy> what talk
<shevy> we found out that ruby had the best OO
<deryl> i use Google Drive and Dropbox to keep most of my books so i got them wherever i go. private dirs rock :)
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<shevy> fakingfantastic File.readlines('foo.txt')
<fakingfantastic> shevy: how about if you have a string
<shevy> string.split("\n")
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<fakingfantastic> But what about \r\n
<shevy> string.split("\r\n")
<fakingfantastic> haha, do you see where im going with this?
<shevy> you can check for these, then decide too
<deryl> wonder how hard it would be to make a syntax hilighter. read lines from a file, use a case or something to output the words wrapped in color codes or something?
<shevy> not really
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<fakingfantastic> Need to make sure i am accounting for all types of carriage returns
<fakingfantastic> that's why I was asking about the "most efficient" :)
<shevy> how many carriage returns are there
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<deryl> suppose you'd have to have a db or text file containing all known keywords brought in to a hash and do comparisons or something
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<shevy> let the number be 3. so you check for 3 cases before you split. seems still simple
<Spaceghostc2c> deryl: I'd be a happy developer?
<Mavericks> dekroning: where are you looking w.r.t design principles ? some ebook may be "design patterns elements of reusable object-oriented software"
<dekroning> Mavericks: w.r.t ?
<dekroning> with respect to ?
<deryl> with regards to
<dekroning> ah :-)
<dekroning> Mavericks: actually at the moment I have a ton of OOP books, OOSE, GOOS, GoF, Lean Architecture, P of EAA, and many more
<dekroning> Mavericks: most of them are Java oriented
<Spaceghostc2c> When Racing Tacos.
<Mavericks> cool
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: haha :-)
<Mavericks> haha
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<seanstickle> dekroning: read them all?
<dekroning> that's why sometimes it's hard to know, if this would also be "the ruby way"
<dekroning> seanstickle: i'm actually pretty far in most of them indeed, however still longtime to finish all of them. However I wanted to get my feet wet already that's why i'm struggling now with the actual code :-)
<seanstickle> dekroning: fair nuff
<seanstickle> I like formalisms.
<seanstickle> They help me structure me thinking, and do better work.
<dekroning> seanstickle: right I have the same thing :-)
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<seanstickle> Object-Z FTW
<Spaceghostc2c> Most of the solid OO design patterns are implementable in ruby.
<dekroning> seanstickle: sometimes it seems to get in the way though, most of the time it's because I don't truely understand something
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: yeah but sometimes I find it hard how to implement them, e.g. Concerete classes deriving from Interfaces, or just have the Concrete classes informally adhere to the messages of some abstract
<Spaceghostc2c> It takes a while, but lucky for you, ruby is very fun.
<seanstickle> DCI is my new favorite thing
<seanstickle> And taught some people DDD stuff a couple of jobs ago
<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: Me too.
<seanstickle> They were all like "what's this" and I was all like "stuff invented over a decade ago" and they were all like "no way" and I was all "yes totally!"
<dekroning> seanstickle: yeah I really like those DCI ideas as well
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<dekroning> seanstickle: also have the book on DDD awesome book
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<Spaceghostc2c> Isn't that one covering java?
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: Yeah, that post is pretty good, but also really short
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: yes it is, but very little code in there actually
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<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: I have a pre-release beta book from a guy in Virginia who is writing a whole thing on Ruby DCI
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<seanstickle> DDD doesn't "cover" Java. It just uses Java to demonstrate ideas.
<dekroning> Spaceghostc2c: most of it is explained textual and UML diagrams
<seanstickle> Much like Knuth uses MMIX
<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: WAT SO JELLY
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<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: Well, yeah same way a lot of ruby books are just showing concepts implementable in any language that isn't shit. :D
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<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: http://www.clean-ruby.com/
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<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: that's the Ruby DCI book I've ordered
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<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: I'm gonna get it.
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: you might want to wait
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<Spaceghostc2c> Why? I don't mind reading beta books.
<Spaceghostc2c> And rereading the subsequent releases.
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: I ordered the pre-release version about 2 months ago, it was … thin … and there have been no further releases
<Spaceghostc2c> Oh, hm.
<seanstickle> I have emailed him to ask what's going on.
<seanstickle> I'm happy to let you know when I get a reply
<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: I knew I lurved you for a reason. :D
<seanstickle> Or you can order it, of course. Don't mean to stop you.
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<shevy> what
<shevy> are you two making out again
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<shevy> ok
<shevy> who of you knows the eskimo greeting operator in perl
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<shevy> specifically when the Eskimo greets the print function
<seanstickle> Nose kisses?
<seanstickle> What of it?
<seanstickle> Shouldn't you be asking in #perl ?
<shevy> why, I dont use perl
<shevy> it's a terrible language
<Kwpolska> shevy++;
<shevy> but it has awesome names
<shevy> "The Goatse Operator"
<shevy> spaceship operator we have in ruby too though
<seanstickle> Perl is lovely.
<seanstickle> Not as lovely as APL, but nothing is
<shevy> print -+-'2e5'
<shevy> this is crazy man
<shevy> I cant believe this is valid perl
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<shevy> but it seems to be
<Kwpolska> I wrote some perl. It was a total mess. But then I re-wrote my code in Python (I love it more than ruby, but both are great) and kaboom, it was more functional, easier to maintain and less cheaty.
<shevy> yeah Kwpolska
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<seanstickle> Python is a shithole
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<shevy> I never managed to get into perl
<seanstickle> I <3 Perl
<seanstickle> Going to the Perl Mongers Meetup in DC next month
<seanstickle> Good people
<shevy> can be
<shevy> the language is still horrible
<Kwpolska> for example, my “Arch Linux User Repository Package Builder” (PKGBUILDer or build.pl for short).
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<shevy> debian loves perl
<Kwpolska> The Perl version had those functionalities: download a file from [address]/x/xyz/xyz.tar.gz (where xyz is the first parameter and x is its first letter), untar it, and run a shell command.
<shevy> dpkg stopped working when I got rid of perl once, is how I found out that it needs perl :)
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<Kwpolska> The Python version deals with dependencies, does install validation, searches, quick updates (I was first to implement super-quick AUR update mechanisms!)
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<Briareos1> i'm curious: why is (nil..nil).nil? == false ?
<apeiros_> because a range is not nil
<RubyPanther> Briareos1: because nothing doesn't have anything in it, not even nothin!
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<Briareos1> :)
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<Spaceghostc2c> (nil..nil).nil? == false sounds like a metaphor for life.
<apeiros_> I now wonder how Range determines whether values are valid for ranges
<apeiros_> 5..nil raises
<politoed> same type check?
<apeiros_> no
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<apeiros_> float..int works fine
<apeiros_> maybe common ancestor is sufficient…
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<cek> it could also be abug
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<RubyPanther> apeiros_: You can mix types assuming they have the required #succ and #<=>
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<shevy> nil is really hated by everyone
<shevy> nil.succ
<shevy> that should yield Infinity for reasons of solidarity with nil alone
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<Kwpolska> shevy: I hate nil for its name. null or None (as in python) sound more proper for me.
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<shevy> hmm null
<shevy> when I read null, I think of 0
<shevy> None I dont mind
<shevy> though it should not be capitalized in ruby
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<shevy> Kwpolska, the worst name is eigenklass though
<shevy> because eigen means self in german
<shevy> and who would like selfclass either...
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<js-coder> How do I test if a file is a zip file with Ruby?
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<apeiros_> js-coder: File.extname(path) == '.zip'
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<deryl> what would you need in ruby to be able to test a file if there was no extension? (idle question, doesn't have to be answered)
<deryl> was thinking of that off the zip question was all
<apeiros_> a filemagic binding
<js-coder> @apeiros: I could name a file file.zip and it doesn't have to be a zip file. Isn't there a reliable way to test it?
<apeiros_> js-coder: it's a valid way
<apeiros_> people can fuck with you in any way.
<js-coder> @apeiros: Anyways, your method won't work for me. I'm downloading zip files from GitHub and they don't have a file extension.
<apeiros_> js-coder: dude
<apeiros_> if you download zip files from github, then you *know* that they're zip files…
<apeiros_> also, when getting data via http, you get a content-type header
<samuelkadolph> Uh, yes they do have a .zip extension
<apeiros_> also that
<js-coder> apeiros: Ehm, nope? I didn't say I only download zipped files. o.0
<heftig> js-coder: the first two bytes of a zip file are "PK"
<apeiros_> "I'm downloading zip files from GitHub"
<deryl> js-coder: being combattive when asking for help usually results in what you're getting in return right now.
<js-coder> @apeiros: "I didn't say I only download zipped files. o.0" *only*
<deryl> might want to rethink your help strategy
<samuelkadolph> This isn't twitter, drop the @
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<js-coder> Huh? If I get an idiotic answer.
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<apeiros_> js-coder: content-type header. file extension. both present. filemagic was mentioned. if you fail to apply the answers…
<deryl> it wasn't an idiotic answer actually, but hey your show, deal with your returns
<_iMBA> apeiros_ the content-type header can be set dude :)
<apeiros_> _iMBA: omg
<_iMBA> apeiros_ :)
<deryl> _iMBA: yeah cause github is out to screw you and send you false information about what they're sending to you.
<deryl> not like its some rogue server group out there
<apeiros_> _iMBA: your DNS might also be hacked and you might not be downloading what you think you are!!! what now?!?
<js-coder> heftig: Thanks!
<_iMBA> deryl no :) i meant generally if js-coder would want to do a generalized solution
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<_iMBA> js-coder heftig i am a newbie to ruby, but just thought we could run a shell command to test the integrity of the file "zip -T" IMHO that would also cost lesser i/o & cpu i believe...
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<_iMBA> heftig do correct me if i am wrong! js-coder
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<js-coder> _iMBA Is that a cross-platform way? I'm not sure if that would work in a not Unix(-like) shell.
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<_iMBA> js-coder definitely wouldn't .. moreover it also needs the zip package to be installed
<_iMBA> apeiros_ yeah man! very much possible! i bet u'll write über-secure systems in life! :)
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<shevy> _iMBA he actually does
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<_iMBA> shevy didnt mean to be too critical, though i ended up being so :D pls take it just-in-jest apeiros_ ;)
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<shevy> he is swiss. swiss are very correct people
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<samuelkadolph> ruby is pretty bad for security given its track record with ssl verification
<shevy> if you come one minute too late to a meeting they will say it is ok
<shevy> but in fact, they will hate you for the rest of the life :D
<apeiros_> shevy: we're also very neutral. beware!
<apeiros_> you never know with those neutrals…
<samuelkadolph> "If I don't survive, tell my wife, 'Hello'"
<Paradox> samuelkadolph, i'd say ruby is fine and rubygems is bleh
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<samuelkadolph> No, it's ruby
<samuelkadolph> VERIFY_PEER has worked for less time that it's been broken
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<shevy> Paradox well, matz forgot to design a package system
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<deryl> speaking of rubygems, time to review the code for the site and try my hand at adding a cache clearing and registration route. hopefully lsegan doesn't laugh at me too too hard :) (then again most he can do is say to piss off)
<shevy> who...
<shevy> no
<shevy> where can I find lsegan?
<shevy> I want to laugh with people!
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<deryl> lol ass ;)
<shevy> hey, you mentioned this lsegan... I cant even type this name... sergio legan...
<shevy> but now that someone mentioned rubygems
<deryl> why do i alaways screw his name
<deryl> tiwtter handle is lsegal
<shevy> I already forgot how to add yaml files to a project
<shevy> titter handle???
<deryl> guh. bite it shevy
<deryl> :)
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> which gem includes yaml file handling in its .gemspec?
<samuelkadolph> Sounds a little strange
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<shevy> noone is doing that??? :(
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<Mon_Ouie> postmodern is the one who did that
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<apeiros_> deryl: don't forget to ask him for the sha1 of 'test'. he needs to train that…
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<deryl> apeiros_: put that on hold for a bit. trying to figure out how gemspec_deps_gem is actually generating the .gemspec file at the moment
<shevy> ah that... no, didn't think of a gemspec.yml, more of a .gemspec that has some instruction like "bundle together all yaml/ files into this gem too"
<deryl> i see how he's loading text var, but trying to find out where write_contents_to_file and execute_template are defined. (Think thats bundler but not sure)
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<shevy> though that is curious to see still Mon_Ouie :)
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<deryl> apeiros_: hehe i swear my knowledge has more holes than swiss cheese. sheesh.
<Mon_Ouie> gemspec.files += Dir["./**/*.yaml"]?
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<shevy> cool, going to try that soon
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<QE4> Ok, I'm not exactly sure what I am asking, but how would you set up a web page with buttons, which upon being pressed, would communicate with a ruby script on a local machine thats listening in on it?
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<shevy> hmm
<QE4> I dont know nearly enough about web dev to know off the top of my head how to implement such a thing
<RBV> QE4: Communicate what, and what kind of script?
<QE4> just any old ruby program on a machine, sitting there, listening to this page, and notifying the user when a button was pressed on a particular page
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<RubyPanther> QE4: You would either learn about web dev, or hire somebody
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<QE4> RubyPanther: im doing this for fun
<RubyPanther> Presumably then learning will be fun.
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<QE4> RubyPanther: just need to know where to start
<QE4> RBV: this looks promising
<RubyPanther> You don't want to start too narrowly, just start reading stuff
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<RubyPanther> Plan to read most of it, whatever it is
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<shevy> RubyPanther! welcome back
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<QE4> RubyPanther: lol good link
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<WhereIsMySpoon> lol
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<RubyPanther> yeah everybody loves zed, right? buy a t-shirt! lol
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<Spaceghostc2c> Fuckin' everyone, motherfucker.
<muse> bloop
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* Enekoos se despide
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<deryl> yeah so not messing with that gem
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<chase4926> Hello, I've been wanting to make a networked console game for a while now, and just when I thought I got it to work, it doesn't work. This server/ client setup does however work over localhost, but not when I try to connect to my friend through the magic of the internet. Any idea what's going on? Server: http://pastebin.com/fJtAAJmx Client: http://pastebin.com/MHvuZAh8
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<_iMBA> shevy apeiros_ :)
<apeiros_> _iMBA: hm?
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<_iMBA> apeiros_ i just went back and saw ur and shevy's conversation (re: über-security )
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<shevy> apeiros_ does not dare mention the word security
<heftig> chase4926: firewall or NAT in the way?
<shevy> it is confidential
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<chase4926> heftig: Not that I know of, I also forwarded the port
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<heftig> so what doesn't work?
<chase4926> heftig: My friend timing out when my server is running fine
<heftig> sounds like firewall
<_iMBA> shevy apeiros_ swiss connections, eh?
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<chase4926> heftig: Would I have to make an exception in Windows Firewall? Because I was under the impression that that wasn't required?
<shevy> _iMBA yea
<apeiros_> _iMBA: I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
<chase4926> ignore the extra '?'
<shevy> _iMBA he really means it
<shevy> better move along and continue coding in ruby as if nothing happened
<_iMBA> shevy apeiros_ hail ruby!
<_iMBA> :)
<heftig> chase4926: don't know much about it, sorry
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<chase4926> heftig: Yeah, just tried, apparently in Windows only executables can be added to the white list
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<chase4926> heftig: Well I disabled the firewall, and it still times out.
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<heftig> did you set up the forwarding correctly?
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<chase4926> heftig: I'm pretty sure, I've done port forwarding many a time in my past
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<bwlang> i need to search a list of objects, grouping duplicates. I'm thinking of generating a string representing all the properties that i care about, sorting the objects by that string and walking over the sorted list comparing each element to the next. Is there a better way I'm not thinking of?
<bwlang> max list size is 384
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<bwlang> (bonus points if you know why 384 ;)
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<chase4926> heftig: Got it to work
<chase4926> heftig: Thanks for all your help!
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<bwlang> would it be better to hash the string and sort the hashes? I'll benchmark - but maybe somebody can save me the effort.
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<azariah4> Just started learning Ruby today and trying to get the article text of a webpage, I'm using nokogiri but I'm not sure how I can extract foo from <tag>foo</tag>
<azariah4> I've managed to extract all tags of a certain type, and their attributes, now I want the text that's "between" the start of the tag and the end
<shadoi> Google is your friend.
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<azariah4> your google-fu is stronger than mine! thanks :)
<shadoi> my search: "nokogiri get tag body"
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<azariah4> doc.xpath("//p/text()").to_s
<azariah4> I'm completely blown away how powerful ruby & nokogiri is
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<shevy> ewww
<shevy> XML
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<ParadoxQuine> anyone mind helping me with capybara? i'm trying to have a test using has_css? and it's returning true no matter what :count i put, which is obv wrong...
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<aces1up> hey all, how would i detect if a string has either apostrophie or quotes within it?
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<politoed> you could use the count method on the string
<politoed> "something".count("'")
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<apeiros_> str =~ /'|"/
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<apeiros_> count will go through the whole string, I wouldn't use that
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<aces1up> apeiros_ what would the regex look like to detect either ' or " in a string?
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<deryl> damn its tough making all this stuff play nicely together hehe
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<apeiros_> aces1up: errrr… *exactly* the way I showed you
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> apeiros_ he needs some more time before he realized that you typed something :)))
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<aces1up> apeiros_ oops sorrt ;)
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<ParadoxQuine> anyone know why capybara's has_css with a count specified would be always returning true?
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<shevy> perhaps because it is buggy
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<neku> hey guys, how do I pass multiple lambda as parameters?
<neku> def a(&b, &c, &d) does not work
<Spaceghostc2c> You can't.
<samuelkadolph> a(lambda {}) would be passing a proc as a paramter
<samuelkadolph> blocks aren't really parameters
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<neku> well... fuck
<neku> I'm screwed
<apeiros_> neku: either as normal parameters (e.g. using lambda{} as suggested by samuelkadolph, or by using stabby lamdba ->{})
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<apeiros_> neku: or by providing a proxy: foo do x {}; y {}; z {}; … end
<Spaceghostc2c> You'd have to construct a sort of helperblock that contains the other procs.
<Spaceghostc2c> Maybe some DSL magic to make it look nice.
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<neku> apeiros_: &lambda is not correct for a variable that cotainas a lambda?
<Spaceghostc2c> neku: ^
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<apeiros_> neku: it is, but there's only a single &foo arg
<neku> perfect, thank Spaceghostc2c
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<samuelkadolph> ruby 1.9 can make method invocations look perdy. connect success: ->(socket) {}, failure: ->(error) {}
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<poindont`> ls
<poindont`> oops
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<shevy> the -> is so awful
<Spaceghostc2c> The -> is so succinct and visually attractive
<shevy> ->(){} ->(){} ->(){} ->(){} ->(){}
<shevy> brainfuck is nothing against ruby anymore
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<apeiros_> I dislike ->. but I use it in irb. less to type.
<Spaceghostc2c> I try and use good taste to dictate where my dashrockets go.
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<apeiros_> it's probably just a matter of getting used to
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<seanstickle> Agreed. Should have used /\ instead
<Spaceghostc2c> I'm personally interested in ≥
<apeiros_> OO
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<seanstickle> :)
<apeiros_> seanstickle: you sir, are insane
<seanstickle> Well, or maybe ^
<apeiros_> but if somebody has a good idea for a) an object literal (similar to js' {}) + b) a code literal - ideas are very welcome
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<seanstickle> Wait, what?
<seanstickle> I think I missed the preamble to that
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<Spaceghostc2c> λ or Λ?
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<apeiros_> seanstickle: unrelated to ruby
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: well, sure if you want to use Unicode
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<Spaceghostc2c> Who doesn't?
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: but then we could just use APL instead
<apeiros_> I like the idea of just {} as a code literal
<seanstickle> apeiros_: for what?
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<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: apl?
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: yeah, my programming language of choice
<apeiros_> seanstickle: lets say an imaginary programming language
<seanstickle> apeiros_: Hmm
<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: I hope you know that I just popped three boners for APL
<seanstickle> Spaceghostc2c: ok … weird
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<Spaceghostc2c> seanstickle: I know. :(
<apeiros_> funny, I don't actually remember what my last idea for an object literal was…
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<Azure> Are there any good guides on writing API wrappers? Or at least taking JSON and wrapping it or "organizing" the data.
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<shevy> hmmmm
<shevy> I think I am going to learn python for pygtk3 bindings alone
<shevy> :\
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<seanstickle> No, stay away from Python!
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<asaelko> :)
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* Azure is guessing that hsh#inject would be a good way to transform an api into a collection of objects.
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<icy`> is there a method that can be run as an object is dying/about to die? e.g. if I just suddenly hit Ctrl+c to kill the script
<apeiros_> there is finalize, but it's not reliable afaik
<icy`> apeiros_, what is that called though / what do i google for?
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<apeiros_> (ObjectSpace#define_finalizer)
<apeiros_> you use ri ObjectSpace#finalizer
<icy`> i mean the general term for this
<apeiros_> googling for API is generally not a great idea.
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<apeiros_> well, the general concept is called destructors
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<icy`> oh just as in c, ok
<apeiros_> finalizers are similar, but unlike destructors run after the object has been destroyed
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<icy`> thanks =)
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<Tasser> apeiros_, icy` at_exit ?
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<apeiros_> Tasser: that's at the end of the process, not at the end of the object
<icy`> hm that could also be useful for me
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<icy`> thanks to Tasser as well -- i'm liking at_exit so far. I'll test and trigger both to use as needed
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<shevy> the problem with at_exit is that
<shevy> it can get invoked from different files
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<shevy> whoa cool
<wpaulson> how is being invoked from different files a problem?
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<shevy> foo2.rb:4:in `/': divided by 0 (ZeroDivisionError) from foo2.rb:4:in `block (4 levels) in <main>'
<shevy> wpaulson I dont remember. I had this problem in my ruby-shell once
<wpaulson> just curious
<shevy> I am thinking
<shevy> back when I saw the problem, I got rid of the at_exit part
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<shevy> ohhh
<shevy> that one seems interesting http://blog.tddium.com/tag/at_exit-ruby/
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<Enekoos> if I try use gem "rubytorrent-allspice" I try to create class: bt = RubyTorrent-allspice::BitTorrent.new("file.torrent") but ruby not underestand -allspice, how I can use it? RubyTorrentAllspice not work too
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<Enekoos> how name of class need use for it?
<apeiros_> RubyTorrent-allspice is not a valid constant name
<apeiros_> ruby will interpret that as calling the method '-' on RubyTorrent, the allspice variable/method as argument
<Enekoos> yes apeiros_ bu what name need use? :/
<Enekoos> I go to se it canton7 thanks
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<Enekoos> they use in this file "module RubyTorrent" but if i try it I have error in command line: root/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p194/gems/rubytorrent-allspice-0.3.6/lib/rubytorrent-allspice/bencoding.rb:76:in `parse_bencoding': invalid bencoded string length 18292 + (RubyTorrent::BEncodingError)
<Enekoos> ... and more lines
<shevy> funny error
<shevy> should not break like that though
<shevy> is a bug clearly
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<Enekoos> :S can I read anything for resolve it? :/ I'm lost
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<shevy> Enekoos dunno. perhaps not... depends on whoever wrote rubytorrent :)
<shevy> you could try to use begin/rescue and still continue
<shevy> if it is on github, I found that most projects with active devs respond quickly there
<shevy> at the issue tracker
<shevy> if it is only at rubyforge, abandon it quickly :P
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<Enekoos> mm ok thanks I see for it :/
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<graspee> arg god damn it this fucking ruby-opengl2 doesn't work either
<shevy> hehe
<graspee> wrong channel but still
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<reggal> Scrunny mit tack pick jack. I'm talkin bout plucky PLUCKIE pluckie o'hare. withers ground ring air. parchookalie buckle, weeh eeh. pluckily boosier bael regget ramajot. bartoofteein regleg. Ret round hujamima bound. Tickle me timbers. Farg duddly uck uck darg marg. Hosh a mosh a luke a leek a leggin! Audacity of it all, you feel small
<daed> tell us more.
<reggal> Clarbudgy cabujjin, Carblinkin carblastan carbleggegg. Are bastion you jastuin. We're all for the Kardassians who lost the war against the Federation, don't you tell worf we need another ration. Fargleb skeeol skowl all bleb. carmattick raticular pledge mahole heel. Mettick marial mahoney blastokist
<reggal> Shmartooty boots breath. Rennimino rick taid. Renniminnow rick taid. Carbloochy bad ass. Renna ma nick patrol. A chucka oo maow maow, chucka oo maow maow, a chucka oo mow maow, chucka oo maow maow. Panta hoasta leeka tolweth hade. Rum dump dump digalagger.
<oz> well, that's what /ignore is for.
<reggal> Cannabalism regamalan. Bardacian bull-horne mooses aren't in this quadrant of the galaxy. Playin' Star Trek Online cause it's free to play, just like All Points Bulletin: Reloaded and Final Fantasy XIV. Eee dah climp lah plocky ug tug tech.
<reggal> I went out with twenty of those rebbity jellickers. we're all midge millickers. Puh reb deb dejjer. Galactical tactical plack ass. Rump tump tiddle doo, rump dump damn. Ban ricky ban glicky jallo whip! Pahorp pahilla thin meffrin. Reggal dee deck shweener. It doesn't eat muggo whip.
<reggal> It's a piece of paiper. Scrubbbity ass ragamahoun. Raggity ass maga muffin. maggity von heffrin Shtooty mic blackened. Shooty hick black and pick tatots. hugga ghigga micomprin. Don't fuck with my restaurant! Truggity reg up rim dum. a spoon contacts the kinigigal concern. trust no one, tiger miller.
<reggal> Michelle and jantsy with a banshee. prebelally mobijowrist. Fartily gas farts on someone's jacket. Where's spongy brother. eye heeker playmus guy. Helly midge mushkin. Rumina mee drowls wall width.
<reggal> I've got your mother's pussy juice bottled, I sell it out of my house
<reggal> S.ll.a.g.g.y mc pit street. Hustler hova heeva Chick ova heeva ova heeva. Braxalarian blalalxrals. snuggity rab rab rabbits. Snuggies aren't selling anymore. most people don't know what a "snuggie" is. Halla micka wheel wyaujtkchtpt.
<reggal> Spaqqa miffa liffa leggin. Terry baloris trickaleggal. Sequester mlajjap eastro diz hamta wan ta licka holmus preed. Scatty picka loon dunes. Hoakalin McGregoar. Roddy McFlyer. Hillie Midge Millik! Arfie McChaffer Chickababy
<reggal> Shaggy mig rehehehehehehp Spleggy melajamick pick tatot. Pegila meligomesk pigilidack fellijiscrap barckarian bustrap piggin kegalarelej shtooty shtipt kid mlelagaraphix transslits
<reggal> Milla jalaoft jitch breakfast Peef pond pallooleol babble. I had to have sex in diapers! I HAD TO HAVE SEX IN DIAPERS! diaper sniper days, everyone knows about sex. it pays when my nickname used to be snake.
<reggal> Puritalin baggy of gunk. my name's not tristan it's rastan. rallin for null like a holdy hook black ann. Tiny tim, dick ass whim. Shaloody shlock braze made. Pullilcoch dravinarial balactal guarns.
<reggal> Albatross doog ee rook rack egg. Wanny manilnorf traggat muh hilli hole back street pormande usft vadinal deena. sex with a shoogie look laygie. Zellamanorf worf wallow. isn't that up the street?
<reggal> Shlagg lagg McNellanorf. I'm a jalooch jooch jeggal jalalicker. Tricky ass jillickers. Dev dev developers and wheat. /jalack a mic taxle\ juki al juba nas wat eerie fun, jest maleel oo had, lala in mackmod. Fifty tramps.
<reggal> Mister Doofie's diapers. Pahole hell wack pahole hell paiper. jegga rilla ma jorf. plack a pleek meladromic mezzistove tricky the band needs a tan no one cares about care bears eatch mizzle tag the mazer milojprafft malidge praft
<reggal> Mahole hack mellow the wiper. Milla janil. plex kuying flying trev plegs. Jaloffin Jalillobie. I'm in your cement. Parudgy rij jelellolebob. blanky rich fandestriovon. Galaxio trabble. Hef a heavy hompfrin pole. Jalooshitty scrooch
<reggal> I've got more track ass gangsta shit than you could ever come up with.
<reggal> Shneggin manellik reggal! Claviparin Varsaipiant reznik. Asteeo shpit iff ma hole. Barsloochin migif mahole. Miggif mahendron. MCGoodwin Trellalicker! Trellix two trellalix truxix. Magedwined moodwin. Pocky maggat mahoney maholoaf. Scragg not sweener
<reggal> Calej loft ridge muh gorrie mack. Citaldroff metahynoon rickardo Pren pen parillo. nargofio gaxal fargothik well wheaty exiliant the meeky Pargrether the doplin underniner jockliship striffy Pallatoonie prudence palaxoiriot. Putty cad adt red et snooper dooper
<reggal> Margy mixalef a lig dwarf. We're talking about real life gellairio sects here. Rang brang brelladge maneer. Turtikle jellejej galaxial protowaxial blove ass ween thiggle mannella muh norf. Partruzhion kopuxtin here we work at emeny bes baas tookany benna bastard bookanees.
<reggal> Maluj slij jalilahole. Kanga tilla to pleck. Hajjamellion morph clepicon. Giffy maga drellapator texel. Angellico padge prella rarian plarian reggal baddle. Pash pa helican, padge wathfond wallow maneel. Midge muh jih murathum.
<reggal> Isopolavial interface. Four times the square root of the intermix ratio. Uglefrin. No comment. Throat a pelly rouch a pellax. Belchers bonans Pledge pledgy teddeliton. Fusing petons with jekeley hoe whip. Prellej whip masty snacker. Prestige rella hoe with buffo whoops.
<reggal> Duvida tess miss ravakajeerion. Parjoonie a gone rufita snaftal. Hasons honishers pargonial vell of the whip Puck a toony twayster. Hella mikcrest of a momajamish yearns to the mucky twayster ess pee ain ein prepare for launch rut dat gat mabah marron. Pargosy man jellots maran. Deemed honshman
<reggal> Mella mic toadis. Jempy karbozilajz. Packrestial poolio payil. Pug giga ran, pugogga rist, pagegga wreth. Ant beyond my cheeves. I'm the son of god, I'm the son of man. Parhexial reggal martillago meg regs. Shlug shluh liggeran rapsh nazh. Chunnif mahayver Sonic shaffer
<reggal> Hom jaref shpoot like a shpanker. Drelek meek mekhomie hahnalillalie hej magellomie moog scriggat the rotch def fohkood. Helledge ah-rood! Helladge hick death Twiddle ee lit amamo ahamo. Ledgy pledge ih ma thelicroth. So king haneez, praise kinga knees. Seminole. Sermon off.
<reggal> Hump dip a dub, I've got the force you're a scrub... Hump dip a dub, you're being forced as a scrub. Get some cum from sex and make pancakes. Haffa jarem powder mixed in with semen. Haffa jarem like a shpoodie shpoot spanker
<reggal> Scrella malorf wheel wall. Canethnical skrothaj. Partans ass wheel. Partent mohzhoost. Pins jumps with knifer knaves. Ruv div dah vompfin hompfin! Ruv duvivida momfin homfin.
<reggal> Rella cavity mah heel hole. 0helej mah heel hole. Scrak a cracky MC Mellej Geeky a man smellej. Sniggity up dagger waath. Poh tain master peen hole. Pagamarian spagamagelleck. The micro ween. Hogalagarin meffrin.
<reggal> Laggin mellajamathrin marothran. Dustin' days. Smar dackily smellej marith. Laggin troh tee tramellico. Trell trelly o meko. Targy plelly oh meck. Smargy lackity lackity loop!
<reggal> Huv divva hompfin stompfin. Naw Knawl squezzel lezzel lah doo dee dooooooooooo. Commander McJelleker. Jeckalie jooch. Naw squezzel naw dee dway knoth! I'm thinking about partankiyan.
<reggal> Hub dave dellavonathzhal seeky selliky non vohanssen. Shmellik o daggal. rarny trastalarian po tranamonathal. Tranamoe lathah mo miggaliggal. Larry plellamonathal.
<reggal> Tego plellio plaxal. The paxans. The Betazed. The piss on a ween ward. The megropack. Poluka maxan high chefner. Picard to Gamma Aridon! Gamma Arridon here!
<reggal> Jello scrap baroom of hushkin Glorily al thrushin Reen ron pliggita plaggity. Munchala cleek a hogrin meffrin. Trallawin trillicker. Tellamarial threlliol threck. 0
<reggal> Trymin Bagty fuloepdey thiftkey Baroom sdaly sealy oh meshkin texty jemelligger wifftan feedol shmeggamellak jellamajigger jellamaligger
<reggal> Am an schillibolist a fillibolist ba wack. Wrench a doof a deef a dumpfing. Put down the pacifier. Put a pin cushion under someone's foot. Bam ban can't ban cannablist baleivar.
<reggal> Sammy slick as lots of pep I'm feeding on my dumper daves. Krempy mella kamek Hippa tra la the to pump all weevil. Wavity Indenture the adventure char plaggy o maxal
<reggal> Pitin footmahoun meglal parry pleggalomrek wrel dukith rallah rallakef rallaketh my na't is keih keith juba dooki dooki layber lumber boned dry
<reggal> Soemtimes I eat sometimes I trives? &doesn't work& clally megalomaxel randolph jukes rarry plellage o-rellage-o-ram Crary mella crolaftrin Baft a trolley tumbloup al a poloron beam Mellacrometh Shifty Mudge-eh-muhrathal sexworks
<reggal> Slick a la rig. Rillie ma rej relleketh chumpin up to sars I wonder what it would be like to go up thayer, Pouin dub meebilow mobs. Baleent ass blub. Mego meerio mibs.
<reggal> Allergic to wheat bread! Chigga loah dee cheagy Konifiable plunkin. Exipalgial marplaxal proodin without a preen gog a romy a reffrin trexxaleck elprher oxrimorinder. mining for marria muns.
<reggal> Scraggie a mellican von WHEAT! Palootistan tristan's rastan. Jev jeva Jev jev jevavie. jevevev jeva jev ev. Policorlia zipitor smacksal. Basat trilogy wheel.
<reggal> Fleg a deggy a nefran. Ikaolapu bressnog. Tivit xix toag plix. chapter of relekesh Ralph a billy blaylee! Renna puh taah tee twixter. Rezamaloo salt, jedda ma loo salt school. Skant skade.
<reggal> Ralla glooky glarg mech. Trec Trek Trellaleck! Maggithied pie. Plaxy jallab ro gallicher. Jallacrith joe jallallicker. Fram from a vellon piece. Plaxie plarillaralobe chaser.
<reggal> There aren't many worlds left to explore. We all get hooked on World of Warcraft, but then we're bored! Better off playing Phantasy Star Universe or Runes of Magic I'd say
<reggal> Repalep tep tarep. Pruda pila peran palmus pran. Pruda pila perin palmus pran. Squeej rellaj. Breath width
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<reggal> Traglamarian brexwith. It's just another day without meatballs. Scrary o chasms doaper dave. Reen lin huh rin holy have. Maloo polaty plegidteftytedddleton. Billy knalavolitz i survived hershowicz. Goan gearing my groon. Groan rearing my grouch nards.
<reggal> Trexel mairio babble. Boon daddy booty blalocks. Aren't going to quit? Tralalelly oh gregs! Truck ack paragontquin. Tranx gralallellian grouping. Berry berry narry nas, barry hoo, barry bas. AH AH AH AH rah rah rah rah rudda deh nah doo doo, boom bood a boot dood.
<reggal> Trally glally jrehr lallaf. Married berry berry nas, harry boon, nanner bas. Ahf! Ahf! Ahf! Ahf! Layer praxool! So many back to schools. I'm rapier. I'm gonna rape her. Some artsy fartsy kind of stuff. You should write a book about preventing farting. A guide to avoiding farting.
<reggal> Gore gearning my krans. Feela fool lo expanse. Til my bed med hende Mars. Shink a dink of dozens. Larly ballellacraft. Rump raiders, ass bandits, and cheese nitwits.
<reggal> Trarly clookly bagel! Maneerial map. Rar gooky gookky barg ak! Ralph billy balf billy Larly laprejlarin. Ralph billy balf billy Larly laprejlarin. Rellamalloo trej nords. I'm picking my needles.
<reggal> Olegvranseef van vrans a la lan. Rugga reg trella la meck. Plood a luck a loody loody poon. Plood a luck a lady. Ifterty toujolity dzhamellegsh.
<reggal> Olegvranseef van vrans a la lan. Rugga reg trella la meck. Plood a luck a loody loody poon. Ifterty toujolity dzhamellegsh.
<reggal> To the black man watching well it isn't true! Nice rice big and black, jail times a jookie rhymer black is black. A JOOKIE MIMER!
<aetaric> ...
<reggal> I can't siffy siffy splain it. Siffy siffy xplain it! Jal jol jalah lalah larry smith johnson! Hickalikaliggal to the marrionoddal. Hickapleekaploggy marriodettal. Shlagalarry-o dettal.
<reggal> Flagalary difty david. Chikapleekaplocky puararan blocky bag of bunk. Aurstralian frost. Huff puff ruff uff. Eerie hire playmus gay. STOP THAT ROACH! Roachalarian thregnargs
<reggal> Chixaplerean tarood duelis. Hunk and dunk of dignorgs. throtaparry lellabrass. Throwtaparallelly roachapralaxx
<reggal> Shlallie a loon to the hep t3p poons. Ragularian Beetle snuff. Rump tastin teddy grahams.
<reggal> Chag a lelly awl praxal. Ragrahrary ro jub. Huck a lick a loon, baby tunes. Huck a lick a boon toon. Zhar blaly ograxal. Traritectorial blecx. Shlollie-o laxal.
<reggal> Just like the ragulariabuub It's the sintani of tantani tatit tatus We look like satanus plaxuis presiduous praxans gralaxion bhratchan
<reggal> Boom bam badda bing bog bonk. Harsha trashian helegor skrapple. Shlitty shaddy shpageddi in a street cart. Virtual dampers throw with trouble. 1 MHz chips bust your bubble.
<reggal> Megamarian magapaxle. Pickalicka loon. Potato juice. Pebble jitch transplanckyourism Upper vica vundowns. Don't you jelelly jallaaf my terrified tellers. One of those tellarian elvhorns.
<reggal> Crab rab jalilickers Shoopha faily blocx nix Qasat Treggy a laxel terroritollimus racx doawn. Black down tround.
<reggal> Picka licka loon picka tradey toons. I'm almost there. Ee buff DAY I'd say! I'm a mmr mmr I'm a ellise viel tpvice.
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<reggal> The baffy hoes where I don't know. The thunder wear it's called ballow boe. Pecka chicka tragalah laah tic pam pic beetle bum
<reggal> Shuckin like a jack ass, my proto's baister I'm feelin clean, some jello whip and some chick'n cream. Another scene release by CHiCNCREAM. McShleggegg
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<reggal> Rosalie hair... Naw nuh nee! S-S-S-Skateboard... Naw nuh nee! Jason's diapers, naw nuh nee! Trixie's diapers, naw nuh nee! Dead basketball players, naw nah nee!
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<reggal> Canker pegger. Pluck a loon paddy poon prunes. Rum biddy bada boom, boom! Rum biddy bada boom, boom!
<reggal> Ruggity dugging. I'm thinkin' about rump damns, tricka licka lay-day! Hold up, wait a minute, let guy smiley come to rump roast. While we playin' it's totally not toast. Come on everyone, it's on Friday's news!
<reggal> A Romulan Praetor, a masterbator, rih dih deh doo! Super guy! Aarfie McShmelegg to the rescue! Paddy poon prunes. han wantifinuhl scroons. Arthur McGreggegg
<reggal> Rep trep tricka-lork to the rup tup tays. Shiddy daddy ding bag. Ron terrier rat! Rond badaag rig. Ron a trary ole meh! Rum baddad rig.
<reggal> Aah well, hep tep rains again. Sara tara tolmus preed. With or without meatballs. Does anyone helpa with a floot bot? Tragalarian plexels. Tricker Protractor.
<reggal> Abis tripolis helmis -- What am I thinking decka dig nork!
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<reggal> I'm thinkin' about reggity diggal... I'm thinking about reggity dickhole! I'm thinkin' about reggity diggal... I'm thinking about reggity dickhole! I'm thinking about jeggity jibbers
<reggal> Shnebbity shnub up bam bam. Ar cor you insufferable menace, ar cor waal wheel woal. Ee buff day I'd say.
<reggal> \\\\\\\\\\I come up with more original material in 30 minutes than this entire channel does in a week.//////////
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<reggal> When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you! I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you! When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you! When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you! When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you! When I'm thinkin about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!
<reggal> I'm thinkin' about the greg nargs
<reggal> You're thinking about the greg nargs
<reggal> I'm thinking about the greg nargs
<reggal> I'm thinkin' about you!
<G_pSp_r_> haha
<reggal> You're all ragularean greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!
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<reggal> You're all a bunch of worthless greg nargs... say my kick ass phrase HEP TEP ROG if you want me to go away...
<reggal> The fuckin' fargy farg nargs... the ragularean greg nargs, the hep tep hoggers, I'm thinkin' about you!
<reggal> ragularean greg nargs
<reggal> hippamatimus pottimus
<reggal> trixilarean thawty mebimababble
<reggal> Pomishta wigc
<reggal> witch's red-orange glowing ring around the tip of the hat
<reggal> fikply penola guy
<reggal> ruma da chicka chidaway rappamatimus impossiblus
<reggal> fleeda leightnotostuous octopossy reg type fundikon gregg man
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<reggal> texapexel texamarian plexel pollike
<reggal> I'm thinking about the zap zap zap.. .zap zap zap o-plarian tawaxachak toaw piscapaol transaplansan there aren't goiung to be any more stoppings
<reggal> Dro Druupings
<reggal> Fafty righteous gays so tomorrow I dopn't say
<reggal> -twaxana luggar de preggel penis at home bounty baby
<reggal> liliputians ro ragajaga nagagarian sects
<reggal> redek beroulian chanxwl dribier twiels her hair
<reggal> hombre juidial dwelver days
<G_pSp_r_> this channel is crazy!
<aetaric> G_pSp_r_: welcome to #annoyingspam
<reggal> givinty twice dopler rader rouper
<reggal> to twelve come delves to twice advise my mother thrice
<reggal> makkity maolerparl
<reggal> po plunkity plaxity plaouwer twirkl
<reggal> he isn't erk'l
<reggal> Sara teera tella tarmuh holmus preed
<reggal> Calica jooch to the holmus preed
<reggal> hunch a bunch of bungholes
<reggal> Jyup rigeturnja makastie plenya polis triplois tragralateral bilateral calilacterals
<reggal> kokoa csher pussel leekawaday otem --O-T-E-M degularian sland gottu
<reggal> Chicka lady lo fifty
<reggal> rutashta rel uel schwiggan
<reggal> Run ton to the jaggy jelly jalakshon. Rye dye the shelliac higher lifeform than mammal, shelliac, higher lifeform than bird and avian.
<reggal> Reg teg shneggity shnikkum, ramp pum putta ma nae! Hi hoe the dairy-o's milky penis too. Shneggity wikkum.
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<reggal> Aay! Ar cor smegamanalee gas up the farts to the flutey fake warp ass
<reggal> Wat does the thawty no dreadnought saye when the fourty dourty ditch doesn't go away? It doesn't go AWAY! IT DOESNT
<reggal> The plant turned into a guano root. Turned into a pollen grain! Talking about a bee turning into a nest!
<reggal> The plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
<reggal> turned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
<reggal> The nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
<reggal> The molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth. Then some kid got stung...
<reggal> it really hurts when it comes from bird shit
<reggal> You fug ug fagheads.
<reggal> Wear your baseball hat backwards with an ass on the back and we'll call you asshat
<reggal> Some of the time I ordinarily don't know. It all begins with the letter A. Fork, spoon, knife, it's all at the table.
<reggal> The mailman comes to each of us in time.
<reggal> you fug dug fargnargs
<reggal> HEP TEP ROG'S MY KICK ASS PHRASE, Boy my bestest friend
<reggal> I'm Hep Tep Rogging to the Rep Tep Hogger!
<aetaric> Fuchs: oh thank god. i was just looking up how to contact you guys
<reggal> Roogy to the hep tep rog. HEP TEP ROG!
<reggal> Cause hep tep rog's my KICK ASS PHRASE!
<reggal> I'm thinking about herf herding my NERF NORDS!
<reggal> I'm hep tep hegging to the hep tep noob nork! Why don't you all scroob nork!
<reggal> I've been hep tep rogging since 2006... Say HEP TEP ROG if you want me to go away!
<reggal> Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes...
<reggal> Where's Waldo... Where's Osama Bin Laden... there is no difference.
<reggal> Nothing but a bunch of druggie channels go do drugs tomorrow it's not swiped.
<reggal> The grass is green and I"m not WHITE
<reggal> Talking about a bee turning into a nest.
<reggal> Pitted prunes, pitted prune prunes, pitted prunes, pitted prune prunes... take it out of the, almust day of that, take it out of the, alumst day...
<daed> 19:34 Ignoring ALL from reggal
<reggal> I'm thinking about boody hunk daislies... Hoodin for rhyme rhuck pruck traisy
<reggal> Fuck daddy dick ass I don't mind, chicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam!
<reggal> I'm thinking about rubbbity jibbits... I'm thinking about rubbbity diddle dabby dabby dazzlie!
<daed> i have found that this works pretty well
<reggal> Wag wag... woadwooze rhymes with road rules.
<reggal> rubbbity diggy... I'm thinking about my ribbity dib dab raggity ann!
<daed> temporarily at least
<reggal> Congo Bongo... anadinary fun... Bingo Cingo, Bingo Cingo, with an other cookie cutter, now what do you see, with a really cookie cutters, swingin' adda me! Bongo Congo will have you flying of your tree!
<reggal> Rub dub chicka licka luck round! Rub dub chicka licka laidy daidy! Rub dub chicka licka luck round! Rub dub chicka licka laidy daidy!
<reggal> Chucka loody baby too!
<reggal> I'm thinking about rubbbity dig dagging my plackity yan!
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<reggal> I'm thinking about rug tugs, I'm thinking about poopy poopy shcrap! Rug tug dickle, holg tug the meel waal!
<reggal> Of the expectant quadrilatical theorem, comes a tenth degree arc regrunion.
<reggal> Farting inside the thimble spool, the next time mom mom comes to sew she'll drool
<reggal> I'm not thinkin about kardacian bilm horned mooses anymore, I'm thinkin about Plix Tixiplik...
<reggal> wanted in over seven solar systems for being a thief, he's the quadrant's most wanted man.
<reggal> Sometimes a schwinn rider comes to play... other days it comes time to drive miss dais'...
<reggal> kill me I kill you fuckin games that chew up your roots
<reggal> Have you ever thoughd about a branch basket... slubbin a lay like a holiest tracket!
<reggal> I'm here to snork my jecka lecka lains. I'm modas me, I 'll hit you with a cay-une!
<reggal> Ring dong ring dog ring dong, ring dog ring dong rink donk.
<reggal> I'm smacking it up to the electrify beam, smacking it to the galactify beam! Smackin the penis with the erectify beam!
<reggal> Ar ewe asterism or aspacurism... boy I'm giving you brain anurisms.
<reggal> Fuck daddy dickass, he's not online, so many idlers it's wasting my time.
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<aetaric> <3
<Whoop> Thanks Fuchs
<daed> i'm guessing the douchebag was kicked?
<daed> i think /ignore prevents me from seeing kicks of them
<aetaric> k-lined
<daed> oh, nice. i mean, that does seem appropriate
<oz> thanks Fuchs!
<Fuchs> you're welcome
<Fuchs> have a nice day
<oz> we should get one of the chanserv owner's to add more people to the op list, or at least, some freenode staff. :)
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<daed> yeah.
<aetaric> would be a good idea
<Whoop> There's no need, staff are generally responsive - they appeared within a minute of me notifying them in #freenode
<aetaric> ah! that is the channel XD
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<daed> i suppose if they always respond that quickly, it's all good
<oz> Whoop: sure, they're responsive. I've not been lurking on #ruby for a long time, so I can't tell if that happens a lot. :)
<daed> seems like it wouldn't hurt though
<daed> to have a backup plan
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<Whoop> back plans sometimes bite you in the ass ;)
<Whoop> *backup
<oz> well back plans for sure :D
<shevy> is it time for ass stories again
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<shevy> oz I thought so too about freenode, but they said they have no authority (???) over #ruby
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<shevy> so I dont think they will add anyone to the oplist here :(
<shevy> spammers should be auto-kicked though, that would be a good policy
<oz> shevy: hm well freenode's staff can't kick or ban from a chan, but they can kill or k-line a user/IP address
<oz> in that sense, they don't have authority over a chan, but they can act at a lower level :)
<shevy> why cant they kick someone from a channel?
<shevy> well, seems ok for spammers hehe
<shevy> but I am still confused
<oz> because that's the channel operators' job :)
<shevy> grrrrrrr
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<shevy> and if the channel operator dies in a car accident...
<oz> usually, there's more than one :)
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<apeiros_> oh, wow… you turn away for a couple of minutes and then that…
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<apeiros_> oz: yes. for ruby, there's a whopping *two* of them. so great we have redundancy :(
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