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<ryanf> it probably wouldn't be very hard to do yourself
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<joevandyk> If I copy from a standby machine, will that pause replication?
<joevandyk> err, pg_dump i mean. not copy.
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<joevandyk> err, wrong channel
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<bnagy> anyone about? #ruby is kinda dead
<bnagy> trying to work out the magic incantation to get gem to build .bat wrappers on windows
<bnagy> it should 'just work' afaik, but it's not :(
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<bnagy> oic. Helps if you save your gemspec file :<
<bnagy> I suck.
<erikh> ha
<erikh> things I do a lot
<bnagy> I wish ST2 would turn the whole tab a different colour if the file is unsaved, or even the background
<bnagy> there's probably a plugin for it :/
<erikh> what does it do normally?
<erikh> vim puts a little [+] on the status bar
<bnagy> changes the 'x' for close to a o
<erikh> ah
<bnagy> but doesn't really work when you have 30 tabs
<erikh> yeah, I don't use tabs but I often miss it on the status bar
<erikh> so, maybe this is useful to you too. I use a lot of vimscripty macros
<erikh> a lot of them -- the first thing they do is write the file
<erikh> e.g., run tests in a project, etc.
<bnagy> yeah I think there is a sublimetext plugin to save on unfocus
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<bnagy> I used to think that was excessively save-y, but now I am not sure
<erikh> that sounds like it has the potential to kneecap you
<erikh> "I wanna do a thing" vs. "I got distracted"
<bnagy> yeah but, what's the downside, really?
<bnagy> you've still got undo, or failing that SCM
<erikh> big edit, no git commit in between...
<erikh> yeah, I guess that's fair.
<bnagy> I'm just mentally totting up if I have been screwed more by save when I didn't want to, or failed to save when I did
<bnagy> and I think it's probably the latter
<bnagy> my 'idle hands' vim reflex always used to be esc :w
<erikh> heh
<erikh> yep
<erikh> have a bad habit of ls\nw\n in terms too
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<bnagy> I can't parse that
<erikh> ls<CR>w<CR>
<erikh> heh
<bnagy> oh right... what does ls do?
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<erikh> in a shell
<erikh> sorry
<erikh> not being clear
<bnagy> yeah... what does it do in a shell? I am not good at computer
<erikh> I get stuck typing this in a shell a lot
<erikh> ls
<erikh> w
<bnagy> :D
<erikh> damnit
<erikh> master trol
<erikh> I bow to you.
<bnagy> I stopped doing w like 20 years ago
<erikh> I sysadmin a lot of boxes
<erikh> w
<erikh> is useful
<bnagy> which was probably the last time I spent any time on a proper multi-user unix box
<erikh> w also shows uptime, etc. it's a nice little general status tool
<erikh> anyhow -- making this go I think
<erikh> is that clear? easy to understand aside from the meat of the matter?
<erikh> just the structure
<bnagy> uh
<bnagy> I don't know what network_orchestrator is
<bnagy> and I would have expected clone "my_box", 5
<wnd> I have a habit of typing "fg" even when there's nothing in the background. In fact, sometimes I find myself doing that several times in a row per terminal. This is related to suspending vim to run the script I'm editing or to compile code I'm working on (because I haven't bothered to fix :make). As for saving files, vim has autowrite option, which is more often helpful than harmful IMO.
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<bnagy> heh, I always have vim and build in different screens
<bnagy> never got into the fg / ^Z habit
<wnd> I have to admit that switching to i3-wm has helped with that a lot
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<erikh> wnd: <3 i3
<erikh> bnagy: it's just something that configures the network
<erikh> system dependent
<erikh> it's really not about the jargon, but msotly the structure of the language itself.
<erikh> I'm actually a former emacs wonk, so I still do many things emacs style
<erikh> big monolithic vim, buffer switcher, etc.
<erikh> g/mvim even
<bnagy> right, time to go out and get grimy drunk
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<erikh> hah
<erikh> enjoy.
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<bnagy> \o
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<gnufied> there was a time when #ruby-lang used to be bigger than #ruby
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<gnufied> heck I always assumed #ruby-lang was the main channel
<gnufied> and I have been here forver
<gnufied> forver*
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<bnagy> it is
<bnagy> imho anyway
<bnagy> if _I_ have a question it gets answered here 90% of the time
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<bnagy> #ruby is just for attempting to help out noobs
<erikh> it's the official channel, for whatever that means these days.
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<Katharsis> hi
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<Katharsis> who has permission to add news to ruby-lang.org (gh repo)?
<Katharsis> i want to publish a simple note about the RuPy 2013 conference. It'll be possible?
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<erikh> you might want to mail ruby-core for that.
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<Katharsis> erikh: thx, i'll try
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<bronson> There are 763 people in #ruby and 311 people in #ruby-lang
* bronson is confused
<yorickpeterse> this channel is for the cool people
<yorickpeterse> #ruby is too mainstream
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<apeiros> #ruby is for jewelery
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<yorickpeterse> well suddenly fuse popped
<yorickpeterse> but only for half of my apartment, of course the part where the internet comes in
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<diegoviola> hi
<diegoviola> i'm trying to use/learn minitest, but i get this:
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<diegoviola> that's my code
<diegoviola> any ideas please?
<diegoviola> oh MiniTest::Unit::TestCase actually works
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<diegoviola> where can i find the latest docs for this?
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<diegoviola> are the docs there out-of-date or something?
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<zenspider> diegoviola: haven't we done this dance already?
<zenspider> diegoviola: you're using minitest 4 and looking at minitest 5 doco
<zenspider> diegoviola: use `ri MiniTest` and friends if you want to look at the doco for the code you're using.
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<diegoviola> oh ok thanks
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<diegoviola> sorry about that
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<zenspider> I do recommend you upgrade to 5 if you can
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<diegoviola> ok
<diegoviola> is that just a matter of gem install minitest?
<diegoviola> i wonder why rvm is giving me minitest (4.3.2) by default
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<diegoviola> well that seems to have worked
<diegoviola> ty
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<Smoochict> test
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<zenspider> diegoviola: minitest 4.x ships with ruby 1.9+
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<diegoviola> zenspider: i see, thanks
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<diegoviola> already installed 5.x, that solved my problem with Minitest::Test, my tests are passing now
<diegoviola> bbl
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<beerdy> hello. how to find the method that called the current method?
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<zenspider> beerdy: `ri caller`
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