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<zzak> drbrain: are you alive?
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<drbrain> zzak: hi
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<zzak> drbrain: thinking of writing a fiddle for difftime(3), not sure what else to do
<drbrain> difftime sounds neat
<zzak> thought of rand but that is too boring
<drbrain> do it!
<zzak> ok!
<drbrain> I think Kernel#rand has higher quality than libc rand
<zzak> it is very complex
<drbrain> is this for examples?
<zzak> my stdlib talk
<zzak> it might make its way into fiddle docs tho
<drbrain> then difftime() should be simple enough
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<zzak> drbrain: where can i find the header files?
<zzak> nvm, i forgot where osx puts things
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<erikh> there's a gcc flag to output the default -I I think
<erikh> but I can't remember it now
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<drbrain> zzak: man difftime() will show you which file the header lives in
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<erikh> that can be weird on glibc especially though
<erikh> macros upon macros upon..
<erikh> dunno. i'm mid-outage, wait state, making noise
<erikh> I will return to not talking
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<zzak> i get that it's in time.h but i had to figure out that it's in "/usr/lib/libc.dylib"
<zzak> for fiddle
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<drbrain> ah, yeah
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<freedrull> drbrain x0f thanks for your responses, sorry i had to run
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<freedrull> drbrain: isnt that book by michael feathers?
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<judofyr> I love flip-flops: http://www.tail-f.org/2013-07-25
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<henrikhodne> judofyr: …wow.
<judofyr> henrikhodne: it's not that complex. I'm using the same logic for all of the lines; it's just one "trick"
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<judofyr> henrikhodne: but yeah, you'll have some fun if you want to untangle it :)
<henrikhodne> I think I see what's going on there now, although I don't think I'll attempt to completely untangle it.
<judofyr> it was fun writing
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<hakunin> what is even going on? https://gist.github.com/maxim/6077694
<hakunin> well, no need to explain, i know what's going on, i just think it's scary
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<judofyr> hakunin: well, that's the trade-off of method calls without self.
<hakunin> judofyr: great article btw, read this morning, awesome work
<hakunin> judofyr: the twitter one
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<yorickpeterse> morning
<yorickpeterse> judofyr: what have you been drinking, hello world using flip-flops?
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<judofyr> yorickpeterse: I needed something clear up my mind after the twitter post
<hakunin> judofyr: must've been difficult
<judofyr> a bit time consuming. after I figured out the approach it was all fine.
<hakunin> judofyr: that too, i meant dealing with outcome of controversial post
<judofyr> oh
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<judofyr> yes
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<drbrain> freedrull: yes, oops!
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<gnufied> drbrain: hey
<gnufied> OpenSSL::Cipher::CipherError: unsupported cipher algorithm (aes256)
<gnufied> when trying to use rubygems master with jruby
<gnufied> I was trying to verify https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/issues/597
<_tockitj> gnufied, try aes128
<_tockitj> this is jvm limitation
<gnufied> cool. problem is rubygems is using that algorithm
<gnufied> so, I can't just switch to another algorithm
<_tockitj> you are jusing oracle jvm ?
<gnufied> yep
<_tockitj> try icetea
<_tockitj> it should work
<gnufied> will majority of rubygems users use icedtea?
<gnufied> :-)
<_tockitj> on oracle you'll need to install policy for stronger encryption methods
<_tockitj> this is funny named 'unlimited strength policy' (:
<gnufied> okay. I am just going to open a bug for rubygems.
<_tockitj> it is not rubygems issue
<_tockitj> hmmz..
<_tockitj> though it could be solved by using weaker encryption (:
<gnufied> dunno mate. rubygems 1.8.x and jruby works without problems
<gnufied> and rubygems master introduces this change.
<_tockitj> ok
<gnufied> So, somebody here is wrong. either jruby or rubygems
<gnufied> or not wrong per se. but painful for users defenitely
<gnufied> I don't develop for JRuby beyond some primilimiary testing of gems I work on, so it is not in my interest to install icetea
<injekt> good morning
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<yorickpeterse> injekt: oi, secret Rails sauce wise, do you even load Rails in your tests or not?
<andrewvos> Do you even lift
<yorickpeterse> also jesus, not using database cleaner in this one test saves 4 seconds
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Yeah man I feel your pain :/
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Are you using factorygirl?
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: I HATE factorygirl
<injekt> yorickpeterse: the one that loads rails runs in 3 seconds, the suite that does not runs in around 1
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: yeah
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<andrewvos> It's not just the rope you hang yourself with. Factorygirl kicks the chair for you.
<injekt> but yes that is one of the secrets
<yorickpeterse> injekt: how the hell, Rails itself takes like 8-10 seconds to start up with a decent set of gems
<yorickpeterse> Problem is that I have quite some AR model code that I need to test
<injekt> yorickpeterse: well, it loads when it needs
<yorickpeterse> and I need Rails/AR for that
<injekt> no
<injekt> you need "ar"
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<injekt> not "Rails/AR"
<yorickpeterse> hmm
<injekt> ;)
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<injekt> one thing that IS messy is the requires I have, they're not ideal
<yorickpeterse> First lets see how much I can gain by removing database cleaner
<yorickpeterse> if I can ditch factory girl that might be another option
<andrewvos> Unless it already has its claws on your codebase
<injekt> fwiw ditching factory girl is one of the major ground breaking changes I had in the way I wrote my tests
<injekt> factory girl isn't bad, but it makes it much much easier to be bad
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<yorickpeterse> tbh in most of the tests here it really doesn't offer anything extra so I can probably just ditch it
<yorickpeterse> otherwise I can just create a method called something like `create_user` which just returns a new User instance
<yorickpeterse> (effectively mimicking FactoryGirl without the bloat)
<yorickpeterse> I hate you
<yorickpeterse> wait, you have two separate spec directories?
<injekt> for the sake of getting pre 1 second test durations, yes
<yorickpeterse> hmm
<injekt> well, for the sake of demoing
<injekt> they have have the same structure and files
<injekt> both have*
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<yorickpeterse> well, removing database cleaner from this directory gave me 24 seconds
<yorickpeterse> now I just need to fix all the tests
<injekt> whitequark: pushed a new slop gem with a fix for your bug
<injekt> whitequark: let me know if everything is ok
<injekt> yorickpeterse: 24 seconds? what in the shit
<injekt> I can run my tests 24 times
<injekt> :troll:
<yorickpeterse> yah, and I even ran DB cleaner at the start of an entire describe block
<yorickpeterse> but now everything fails because it re-uses the same user email
<injekt> fwiw im using db cleaner in my tests
<yorickpeterse> wat
<injekt> lol
<yorickpeterse> ttp://hastebin.com/kobicadaqe.rb
<yorickpeterse> heh, ttp
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<yorickpeterse> errr forgot the config
<injekt> fuck I tried to click that like 100 times
<yorickpeterse> haha
<whitequark> injekt: thanks
<whitequark> lemme check
<injekt> yorickpeterse: is line 10 necessary?
<yorickpeterse> Yes
<yorickpeterse> For Rails engines it is
<yorickpeterse> Otherwise, for whatever reason, it shits up all over the place when using the routing helpers
<injekt> why before each though? why not store it once
<yorickpeterse> Not sure, I'll give that a try too
<injekt> it wont help much but yeah, fine comb and all that
<yorickpeterse> bs AR, this Email isn't already taken
<yorickpeterse> it's supposed to be random
<injekt> :D
<yorickpeterse> maybe SecureRandom.random_bytes isn't as random as expected
<whitequark> injekt: hmmm there is not a new slop gem
<yorickpeterse> fuckit, I'll use the current timestamp
<injekt> whitequark: oh oops one sec
<yorickpeterse> Time.now.to_f for true randomness
<injekt> fucking forgot my rubygems credentials
<yorickpeterse> Node.js approved
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<injekt> Enter your credentials.
<injekt> Don't have an account yet? Create one at https:///sign_up
<injekt> lol'z
<yorickpeterse> OH WAIT DERP
<yorickpeterse> of course fucking factory girl evaluates the block upon loading
<yorickpeterse> not upon creating the user
<injekt> whitequark: should be there now
<injekt> yorickpeterse: just use sequence?
<yorickpeterse> email { ... } # should do it
<injekt> then it'll always be random
<injekt> and only requires += not some kind of super secure lolstring
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<yorickpeterse> email { "#{Time.now.to_f}@olery.com" } # websccale
<yorickpeterse> * webscale
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<injekt> sequence(:email) { |i| "#{i}@example.com" } # roflscale
<whitequark> injekt: btw if I do -Ey, then it barfs with Unknown options -y
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<whitequark> but if I do -yE, then it's Unknown options -yE
<whitequark> is that expected?
<injekt> whitequark: no that's interestingly funny, what about -ye and -YE
<whitequark> well -E exists but -y does not
<whitequark> that's it
<whitequark> -E doesn't accept a param
<yorickpeterse> well, this dir now runs in 17 seconds with some failures
<injekt> whitequark: just going into a meeting so I can't look at it now, could you reopen the issue with another repro? I'll fix it at lunch
<injekt> (lol going into a meeting) this means turning on skype
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<yorickpeterse> make sure you're wearing pants
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<yorickpeterse> holy gripes, DB cleaner is slow
<yorickpeterse> removing it makes my tests seriously faster
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<yorickpeterse> http://hastebin.com/hagedebume.txt <- removing DB cleaner code from single files, one at a time
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<injekt> :D
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<whitequark> injekt: can't reopen
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<erikh> doesn't db_cleaner wrap everything in a big ass transaction and rollback each test method?
<erikh> or is that something else
<erikh> also
<erikh> uuids
<erikh> they are a thing
<whitequark> I think it does
<whitequark> well, it has several settings. transaction, truncate, deletefrom
<erikh> although a sequence shouldn't be much slower
<erikh> whitequark: ah
<yorickpeterse> http://hastebin.com/sixowexipu.txt I present to you, my faster test suite
<erikh> yorickpeterse: does it bleed all over your database?
<yorickpeterse> It does use it, but I can't get rid of those parts sadly
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<erikh> if so, enjoy your heisenbugs
<yorickpeterse> Since it actually tests some AR models code
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<yorickpeterse> The DB is cleared upon starting though
<erikh> yeah, that's usually not a full solution
<erikh> because your data is transient, and stateful, between unit tests
<erikh> that's bleed.
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<yorickpeterse> There's room for improvements, but I did make modifications so that the tests don't rely on, for example, a specific number of rows
<yorickpeterse> just that what they just created is there
<erikh> well, your foot I guess. I'm just trying to save it.
<yorickpeterse> If you care about my foot feel free to suggest something
<erikh> I am, put it back in and deal with slow tests
<erikh> inaccurate tests aren't useful even if they run quickly
<yorickpeterse> Except they are accurate
<yorickpeterse> they still test what they are supposed to test, just in a less dumb way
<erikh> if there are writes in the tests and the DB is not being cleaned between test methods, they aren't
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: hint: there are better ways to speed up DB-backed tests
<whitequark> for example try postgres-on-tmpfs
<whitequark> amazing results.
<yorickpeterse> The point is here that these tests don't require an empty database (table)
<erikh> sqlite can run fully in memory too
<yorickpeterse> So there's no need in cleaning it between tests
<erikh> another option.
<yorickpeterse> erikh: the migrations don't reside in this app sadly, otherwise I would've done that
<whitequark> erikh: I did not see many big applications which could be freely switched between DBs
<whitequark> if you use postgres you prolly use it for a reason
<erikh> whitequark: that's quite fair
<yorickpeterse> plus there's some MySQL specific stuff here and there
<erikh> mysql has an embedded version too.
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<whitequark> or you can simply move /var/lib/mysql to tmpfs.
<yorickpeterse> ooooh, forgot some DB cleaner code. Lets see how much more I can get
<erikh> not sure if trolling or just stupid
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<injekt> one should never bleed
<injekt> yorickpeterse: 27 seconds? not bad
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<fbernier> mongoid
<fbernier> oops ...
<yorickpeterse> basecamp
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<flip_digits> How can I find out what class a method live in?
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<GarethAdams> flip_digits: e.g. 3.class # => Fixnum; 3.method(:floor).owner # => Integer
<flip_digits> GarethAdams: Thank you exactly what I was looking for!
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<yorickpeterse> injekt: down to 25 seconds for the entire suite
<yorickpeterse> instead of around 1m30
<yorickpeterse> pretty sure I can get it lower too
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<yorickpeterse> heh, fucking Rails boot time
<yorickpeterse> test suite runs in 24 seconds, total time is 46 seconds
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<lianj> yorickpeterse: yea
<lianj> best you can do is use guard
<lianj> (for some cases it works fine)
<yorickpeterse> ok dayum, it seems my solution of calling destroy_all on all models is actually pretty slow
<yorickpeterse> booo
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<dernise> Do you think there's a way to stream your screen in Ruby ? On a linux desktop
<dernise> Like a VNC server in ruby
<dernise> (For linux and mac desktops only)
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<ddfreyne> yorickpeterse: Have a Ruby process that loads all rails stuff on startup, listens to test requests and forks itself and runs the tests when a request is received
<yorickpeterse> Preferrably I'd use as little of zeus/guard as possible
<yorickpeterse> They add potential problems and I feel like it's putting lipstick on a pig
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<injekt> yorickpeterse: awesome!
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<injekt> yorickpeterse: destroy_all instantiates each record
<injekt> use delete_all if you can
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<yorickpeterse> hm
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Care to document what you've been doing?
<yorickpeterse> jesus, 35 seconds to get Rails to boot up using 'runner'
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: basically I just removed all use of database_cleaner
<yorickpeterse> that's really it
<yorickpeterse> It's only used in a config.before(:suite) block now
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<yorickpeterse> I'm now trying to find out what fucker makes Rails so slow during boot
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<injekt> yorickpeterse: database cleaner in just a before suite is almost like having no database cleaner
<yorickpeterse> yeah
<andrewvos> Yeah that's not a good idea
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<yorickpeterse> eh no it is
<yorickpeterse> because my tests were fixed so that they don't impose DB pedantics
<yorickpeterse> e.g. they only take into account what they should
<yorickpeterse> which is actually a much closer representation of the real world
<injekt> next step: stop hitting the db where you can
<yorickpeterse> well yeah, but I have quite a bit of AR model code
<yorickpeterse> (that requires a DB query at some point)
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<injekt> heh
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<yorickpeterse> also god damn it, of course that one time I actually want to profile Kernel#require I removed the snippet from Gist
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<yorickpeterse> found something that does it too, yay
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<yorickpeterse> Hmpf, I'd reckon not loading Pry could save some time
<yorickpeterse> doesn't make sense to load it outside of a console or unless explicitly required
<yorickpeterse> WHAT TEH FUCK
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<yorickpeterse> 28 SECONDS FOR TZINFO?
<yorickpeterse> WHAT
<yorickpeterse> 0.080000 0.010000 0.090000 ( 28.524497): tzinfo
<yorickpeterse> WHAT
<matti> ?
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<matti> 28 s of what?
<yorickpeterse> There's a require call to `tzinfo` which takes 28 seconds somehow
<matti> Where?
<injekt> haha
<yorickpeterse> matti: nfi
<yorickpeterse> wait, I can abuse `caller` for that
<matti> What gem is nfi?
<injekt> 'no fucking idea'
<matti> Ah.
<matti> ;p
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<gnufied> :/
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<yorickpeterse> wait wtf, this is some serious weird stuff, now it takes no time but webrick is slow
<yorickpeterse> what on earth
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<yorickpeterse> haha wow, loading the webrick Gem does slow things down quite a bit
<yorickpeterse> about 6 seconds
<yorickpeterse> and it appears that the lucky motherfucker to get shot is database_cleaner
<matti> yorickpeterse: Young man, what on Earth are you doing?
<matti> ;]
<andrewvos> thin
<yorickpeterse> matti: fixing my Rails startup times
<yorickpeterse> secret sauce
<matti> Ahh.
<matti> I see.
<matti> yorickpeterse: Just do what Java dudes do.
<matti> yorickpeterse: They do not care about how long it takes to bootstrap JVM ;p
<yorickpeterse> ok and now it's down to 15seconds. What the hell
<andrewvos> Down?
<andrewvos> How many gems yorickpeterse?
<matti> yorickpeterse: 15s?! Oops.
<yorickpeterse> in previous runs it took around 30 seconds to run `rails r ''`
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<yorickpeterse> I feal that other processes are affecting it
<yorickpeterse> * feel
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: This helps too, if you haven't done it https://gist.github.com/AndrewVos/6081269
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: 79 in total
<yorickpeterse> that's all the deps and such
<yorickpeterse> (as in, deeply nested deps, etc)
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: I have 101 last time I checked and it's quicker than that to boot
<yorickpeterse> oh that shit, meh
<andrewvos> Works
<yorickpeterse> well there we go, 7 seconds
<yorickpeterse> bye webrick, bye database cleaner
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<yorickpeterse> if I had a penny for every time I said something naughty in here I'd be rich
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<yorickpeterse> home tiem
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<yorickpeterse> 6 seconds to rails r, not bad
<andrewvos> nice
<yorickpeterse> removing `Bundler.require` was the best little tweak I've made on this train ride so far
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<yorickpeterse> No point in loading YARD, Kramdown, etc, etc if you don't use it during development all the time
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<andrewvos> Yeah fuck Bundler.require
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<chris2> fuck bundler :P
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<zzak> you can just add require: false to your Gemfile too
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<andrewvos> Bundle.require(:your_mom)
<andrewvos> Probably a better bet (zzak)
<andrewvos> Surprised you have all your test passing yorickpeterse, to be honest.
<andrewvos> After removing Bundler.require
<andrewvos> Right I'm out peace
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<tubbo> is there a way to notate raw bytes in ruby?
<tubbo> just trying to write a test for sending raw video frame data into a ZMQ 3 socket
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<lianj> tubbo: set the encoding to binary?
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<spike|spiegel> Encoding::BINARY/ASCII-8BIT
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<tubbo> lianj: is that globally set? or just the encoding on the string?
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<spike|spiegel> every string gets encoding
<tubbo> yeah
<spike|spiegel> and there's all sorts of default encodings
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<spike|spiegel> if you are reading from an IO you can set I objects internal/external encodings
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<zzak> >> Encoding.default_external
<eval-in> zzak => #<Encoding:UTF-8> (https://eval.in/39025)
<zzak> >> Encoding.default_external.ascii_compatible?
<eval-in> zzak => true (https://eval.in/39026)
<tubbo> spike|spiegel: i'm actually writing raw frame data from Cairo into a ZMQ::Socket
<tubbo> >> Encoding::BINARY
<eval-in> tubbo => #<Encoding:ASCII-8BIT> (https://eval.in/39027)
<tubbo> boom.
<tubbo> :D
<zzak> >> RUBY_DESCRIPTION
<eval-in> zzak => "ruby 2.0.0p0 (2013-02-24 revision 39474) [i686-linux]" (https://eval.in/39028)
<yorickpeterse> zzak: doesn't work if the deps are not in the Gemfile but in a gemspec
<zzak> it was binary
<yorickpeterse> (e.g. rails engines)
<spike|spiegel> tubbo: what's so wrong with that?
<zzak> yorickpeterse: oh true
<spike|spiegel> ascii-8bit is raw 8bit
<spike|spiegel> (with benefits)
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<tubbo> spike|spiegel: nothing's wrong with it haha
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<tubbo> spike|spiegel: i just didn't write this portion of my program and i believe the dude who did just left for the day
<tubbo> spike|spiegel: so basically i want to make a String, then set its encoding to binary, and then that's basically the kind of object i'm dealing with in production?
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<tubbo> because in production it reads from a Cairo surface which is generating raw frame data. it would be a lot of work right now to actually run Cairo and see the data notated myself
<spike|spiegel> if you already have a string and it didn't blow up...:)
<zzak> i think it should just work with utf
<zzak> or whatever your default is
<spike|spiegel> nawww, utf8 will blow up
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<tubbo> yeah and it's not really what i want to test
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<imperator> greetings programs
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<apeiros> but… I'm a user!
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<imperator> apeiros, religious fanatic!
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<apeiros> imperator: please, I'm not in the least religious!
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<matti> The Church of Apeiros
<matti> ;]
<apeiros> good, that's separation of concerns - you're the religious, I'm the fanatic
<chris2> :D
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<matti> apeiros: If you get your own church, you can get tax relief.
<matti> apeiros: ;p
<apeiros> not in this country, I think
<matti> ;/
<apeiros> not sure actually
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<matti> I state "Jedi" as my religion every year in the UK's Census form :)
<matti> :D
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<drbrain> matti: why haven't I heard of the Sith purge of Jedi?
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<drbrain> down to 176,632 from 390,000 in a decade!
<matti> Oh dar.
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<matti> dear*
<drbrain> that's 20,000 Jedi per year!
* matti hides under the bed.
<matti> drbrain: That's a true Jedicide.
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<whitequark> TIL: you can use literal \0's in ruby in a lot of contexts
<whitequark> such as, for example, heredoc delimiters. <<"x\0"+\nfoo\nx\0\n"1"
* whitequark silently weeps
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<drbrain> >> eval "%q\0a b c\0"
<eval-in> drbrain => "a b c" (https://eval.in/39037)
<drbrain> hehehehe
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: I'm glad you don't have a gun
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<yorickpeterse> bad things would happen if you did
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<ericwood> hahahahahaha
<ericwood> that's awesome, good find whitequark
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<yxhuvud> whitequark: you can also use whitespace:
<yxhuvud> >> %q hello .upcase
<eval-in> yxhuvud => "HELLO" (https://eval.in/39038)
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<yxhuvud> or linebreaks for that matter
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<yxhuvud> I'd expect extra fun if used with the unicode mirroring sign :P
<yorickpeterse> >> %q☃hello☃
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => /tmp/execpad-aa418348e740/source-aa418348e740:2: unknown type of %string ... (https://eval.in/39039)
<yorickpeterse> booo
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<whitequark> yxhuvud: dude I know
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<whitequark> my parser *almost* parses the entire rubygems corpus
<drbrain> whitequark: \o/
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<whitequark> drbrain: yeah! have this last bug (\0 in middle of string) and also broken encodings
<whitequark> but I can't do anything with encodings really
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<yorickpeterse> "C++ templates are the most powerful generics system in any language as far as I know."
<yorickpeterse> lel
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<yxhuvud> well, once you hit turing completeness the question shifts from power to expressiveness
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: as far as he knows
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<whitequark> yxhuvud: also C++ templates aren't turing complete in reality
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<whitequark> because limited number of iterations
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<yxhuvud> sure, but by that reasoning normal computers are not complete either, due to finite memory. it's close enough for most purposes.
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<_tockitj> >> %w 1 2 3 .upcase
<eval-in> _tockitj => /tmp/execpad-6ab247f1d449/source-6ab247f1d449:2: unterminated string meets end of file ... (https://eval.in/39040)
<_tockitj> >> %w 1,2,3 .upcase
<eval-in> _tockitj => /tmp/execpad-18eb14b476da/source-18eb14b476da:2: unterminated string meets end of file ... (https://eval.in/39041)
<whitequark> yxhuvud: no, not really
<whitequark> you exhaust the template expansion depth pretty quickly if you want to perform certain practical things
<whitequark> it's about 10k or so on contemporary compilers
<whitequark> so if I want to compute a list of 20k values... I'm screwed
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<yorickpeterse> guys
<yorickpeterse> why are you even talking about template driven programming?
<yxhuvud> fine, adjust my claim to 'most purpose a sane person would want to use it for, as limited as the language is' :P
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<postmodern> why doesn't Nokogiri::XML::Attr#value un-escape the text value?
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<drbrain> RubyGems 2.1.0.rc.1 with a new resolver: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-0-rc-1
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