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<apeiros> if it's a js call, just replace the function?
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<postmodern> apeiros, yeah not sure how to directly access the context
<postmodern> apeiros, i know you can do that with therubyracer, but it doesn't provide a fake DOM
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<iliketurtles> Anyone have a good way to create a block that allows me to iterate over all possible combinations of a string in keysize lengths? IE. for the string "abcdef", i'd want pairs of [ab, cd] [ab, ef] [ab, gh] [cd ef] [cd gh] [ef gh]
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<iliketurtles> sorry "abcdefgh"
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<iliketurtles> found a solution on #ruby:
<iliketurtles> >> 'abcdef'.scan(/.{2}/).combination(2).to_a
<eval-in> iliketurtles => [["ab", "cd"], ["ab", "ef"], ["cd", "ef"]] (https://eval.in/38254)
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<brownies> good evening
<brownies> is there any reasonable reason that self.foobar would hold a different value than foobar ?
<whitequark> yes/no
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<whitequark> >> def self.foobar; 1; end; foobar
<eval-in> whitequark => 1 (https://eval.in/38256)
<whitequark> >> def self.foobar; 1; end; foobar = 2; foobar
<eval-in> whitequark => 2 (https://eval.in/38257)
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<brownies> mmm
<brownies> yeah, fair.
<brownies> working with a gem whose codebase i otherwise respect a lot... but i just suffered through an hour of debugging because self.foo behaves differently than foo when i inherited one of its classes =(
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<ridders24> Hi, im trying to use cgi with ruby, and trying to get the data input into a form to output into a file. This is what i have so far http://pastebin.com/G19wkuyz however get_text does not seem to be input into test.txt. Why?
<canton7> so you're adding the *value* of the variable get_text to the file
<canton7> but there is no such variable
<canton7> so you shoud have got an exception
<ridders24> get_text is not the variable?
<canton7> hmm?
<ridders24> how would I get the form data into the file?
<canton7> using CGI? I have no idea. But I'm pretty sure it's not going to magically create a variable for you
<ridders24> i thought get_text was the variable for the data in the form
<canton7> looks like getdata is passed in in the environment somewhere, and postdata is on stdin
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<canton7> what made you think that a variable was magically created?
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<ridders24> no no, i just thought that the data I had entered into the form, was called via get_text
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<canton7> what do you mean "called via"? that get_text was a method?
<canton7> anyway, any particular reason you're using cgi, rather than a minimalist framework like sinatra?
<ridders24> your not the first to say that, and to be honest im considering ditching cgi for sinatra, after the headache this has given me
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<ridders24> i have a ruby script already, all i want to do is convert it to be used via a webpage
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<bougyman> ridders24: why not just plain rack?
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<andrewvos> Lovely start to the day. Blocked my coffee grinder somehow and then spilled frothed milk all over my coffee machine. :( :(
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<andrewvos> bougyman: Plain rack isn't that fun once you start noticing you're missing pretty vital features
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<andrewvos> Jesus CGI builds html?
<andrewvos> Not seen that before :/
<bougyman> andrewvos: like what?
<bougyman> nothing that can't be provided by some middleware
<bougyman> CGI has always had html builder
<bougyman> but it's a pain to deploy plain cgi
<andrewvos> bougyman: Well simple whitelisting of actions is quite nice under sinatra
<andrewvos> Headers are better dealt with
<andrewvos> params is pretty useful
<bougyman> for that I prefer innate
<bougyman> it's still ruby, not some dsl which you have to rethink.
<bougyman> dsl's, to me, are built for non-programmers
<bougyman> to each their own.
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<andrewvos> I wasn't arguing dsls
<andrewvos> I am not a fan either, generally
<bougyman> sinatra is a dsl, though
<bougyman> at least, it was last I looked at it
<ridders24> will sinatra is easier?
<andrewvos> bougyman: Yeah, I'm not saying it's good because of that. I'm saying it's good because it makes things easy for you.
<ridders24> sorry will it be easier
<andrewvos> ridders24: Yes, for someone who is new to programming sinatra may be easier than pure rack.
<ridders24> andrewvos: cheers I'll give it a go
<canton7> I think he's comparing it to cgi, which he's currently using
<andrewvos> Yeah
<andrewvos> Which I think might be harder to use than sinatra. May be wrong there though, haven't used CGI for years, or maybe even ever.
<andrewvos> Man my commas are all over the place.
<andrewvos> Though understanding HTTP methods might be something to learn first
<ridders24> all i want to do is take user input then fetch data and output the result
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<andrewvos> ridders24: Ok so you need a form. The user inputs data into that form
<andrewvos> ridders24: Every worked with forms?
<ridders24> andrewvos: yeah exactly. And nope not really done anything with forms
<andrewvos> ridders24: Ok so what you need is two http methods. A GET, which displays the form to the user. When they click submit the data will be sent to the server, so use a POST method for this.
<ridders24> okay, are there any sinatra examples of this?
<andrewvos> In sinatra, that's just `def get("/hello"); "some html string"; end;` and `def post("/hello"); "some return value"; end`
<andrewvos> But I'm telling you too much... http://www.sinatrarb.com/intro.html
<ridders24> thanks
<ridders24> i'll try this and see how I get on
<ridders24> thanks andrewvos
<andrewvos> Cool, maybe don't use templating for now. Do that all alter
<andrewvos> later*
<ridders24> ok
<ridders24> bye
<andrewvos> seeya
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<andrewvos> Godspeed, Simon.
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<_rgn> hey, what's the best gui framework to do simple things?
<_rgn> Shoes any good?
<_rgn> i'd like to make a simple text prompt popup, although maybe it might make more sense to do this with some unix tool
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<ridders24> andrewvos: sinatra seems better than CGI, and ive managed to display user input now. However If I wanted to load that input into my ruby script then output the data back into sinatra, how would I do that?
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<andrewvos> Not sure what you mean ridders24
<andrewvos> You can display user input that they typed into fields on a web page?
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<ridders24> andrewvos: yes, but the files are erb. I have a rb script that needs that input from the erb file. Can I direct that input into my rb script and back out, or is there a way to build the rb code into the erb file?
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<yorickpeterse> ^@param\s+\[(?<types>[\w#|]+)\]\s+(?<name>\S+)\s*(?<description>.+)* # one day I will kill myself for writing this
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<andrewvos> ridders24: Can I see all your code?
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<apeiros> yorickpeterse: you hand-parse yard? why?
<andrewvos> It's a dutch thing
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<andrewvos> Wow
<andrewvos> The heat from the sun has made it so I can't use my touchpad on my MBA anymore
<andrewvos> IN ENGLAND
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<yorickpeterse> apeiros: because I need to extract like 2 tags only
<yorickpeterse> and god knows how the YARD parser works
<yorickpeterse> it has factories and all that crazy sheeet
<apeiros> I don't think you have to know
<apeiros> it has an API and can parse to yaml iirc
<whitequark> ... I'm somewhat sure that it does it with regexps too
<yorickpeterse> I don't need 99% of the complexity of YARD
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<yorickpeterse> also welp, 227 stars (DEM STARS) on GH for ruby-lint
<yorickpeterse> seems that ruby-weekly feature really worked
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<yorickpeterse> https://codeclimate.com/github/YorickPeterse/ruby-lint/RubyLint::VirtualMachine#method-complexity if this isn't fucking bikeshedding then I don't know what is
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<erikh> attention is important for code
<erikh> it has feelings and stuff
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: so how's having sun one day a year?
<erikh> YARD is pretty java for a ruby program
<erikh> aws-sdk is the same way
<erikh> same author. go figure.
<yorickpeterse> erikh: I'd take YARD over Rdoc any day
<erikh> the source?
<yorickpeterse> from a user perspective at least
<erikh> or are you ... yep
<erikh> just talking out your ass as usual
<yorickpeterse> you're welcome
<yorickpeterse> I'd be happy to fart too if that entertains you
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: so parser has 156 stars :'/
<yorickpeterse> :>
<yorickpeterse> my code brings all the nerds to the yard
<yorickpeterse> errr, YARD
* yorickpeterse runs
<whitequark> no it's just dumbed down enough so mere mortals can understand it
<whitequark> :p
<whitequark> ruby_parser has 182 for that matter, and is used by way more people than parser
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<yorickpeterse> tbh I'm pretty sure 90% of those 212 never look at it
<yorickpeterse> errr 227
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<erikh> does YARD support meta programmed methods yet or do you still need to write an extension for everything?
<erikh> that's why I got rid of it
<erikh> well that and it kept hijacking doc generation from gems
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<whitequark> erikh: it doe
<whitequark> *it does
<erikh> how?
<erikh> if I have an accessor called my_fancy_accessor, how does it document it?
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<whitequark> there's a special directive which you attach to my_fancy_accessor, I think
<erikh> in the documentation or do you have to write code for it?
<erikh> maybe they finally took that from rdoc
<erikh> you used to have to write an extension which was booooolllllssheeeeeiiiit
<whitequark> in the docs
<gnufied> what are you guys doing on Sunday ? can I work in peace!
<erikh> working, kind of
<erikh> also, it's called /part
<erikh> you can use it
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<yorickpeterse> erikh is just on the rag this wonderful Sunday, that's all
<erikh> stay classy?
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<yorickpeterse> either way, I believe @macro can be used for DSLs in YARD
<yorickpeterse> though the syntax is a bit goofy
<erikh> ##
<erikh> #
<erikh> that's what it is in rdoc
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<yorickpeterse> and how does that tell it to do what?
<erikh> it tells it to document the code up until the next matched syntax or ##
<erikh> so, no magic syntax really
<yorickpeterse> eh? How would that figure out what `attr_erikh` does?
<erikh> you can use certain taggings to train it
<dernise> hi
<yorickpeterse> right, so you still need to configure it one way or another
<erikh> e.g., if you want that next bit to be treated as an attr, you use :attr:
<erikh> not really
<yorickpeterse> oh, that can be done using YARD pretty easily too
<yorickpeterse> using @!attribute
<yorickpeterse> e.g. @!attribute [r] read_only_stuff
<erikh> sure, but uh, rdoc exposes the whole documentation system that way
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<erikh> and like I said -- the last time I looked, YARD coudln't do this
<erikh> so it's new.
<erikh> and taken from the system you hate so much probably
<yorickpeterse> What makes you think I'd hate this?
<erikh> well you said earlier you hate rdoc
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: http://devicejs.org/
<yorickpeterse> erikh: oh really? Find me the exact quote that states that I hate rdoc
<whitequark> oh god.
<yorickpeterse> Go on, I'll wait
<whitequark> I wish this was sarcasm. because it totally could be.
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: I'm pretty sure it's not
<yorickpeterse> EMBEDDED JAVASCRIPT
<yorickpeterse> V8 FOR THE RASPBERRY PI
<whitequark> yes fuck that
<yorickpeterse> VROOM VROOM
* erikh sighs
<erikh> go back to making this channel your twitter
<erikh> arguing with you is a waste of time
<yorickpeterse> erikh: so far you're not really doing your mood any justice
<yorickpeterse> nor is making false statements going to help
<erikh> not my statement, just cargo culting from others in here
<yorickpeterse> haha sure
<erikh> you don't think this place has back channels?
<yorickpeterse> You should be clever enough to figure that out yourself
<whitequark> *facepalm*
<erikh> how about not filling up the channel with your drivel for 8 hours a day while you tear through everything from reddit to how hot your lunch is
<yorickpeterse> haha oh man, what happened to you today?
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Speaking of "on the rag", have you seen Sharknado? Has one of the best quotes ever in a movie. "Looks like it's that time of the moneht"
<andrewvos> err month
<andrewvos> *
<yorickpeterse> If somebody has a problem with anything I'd be happy to talk about it, but I'm not going to discuss anything with a donkey who's angry for unknown reasons
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: haha no, the trailer looks terrible
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: And by the way we've had at least 10 (TEN) days of sun here. Thank you very much.
<yorickpeterse> reminds me of that giant piranha movie thing
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: IT IS A GOOD MOVIE
<yorickpeterse> ... you actually watched it?
<andrewvos> It's pretty cool
<andrewvos> You will laugh
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<yorickpeterse> I generally really can't stand movies like these
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<andrewvos> Yeah I can't either
<andrewvos> But it was pretty hilarious
<yorickpeterse> apparently pacific rim was also pretty bad
<lianj> atlantic rim is worse
<yorickpeterse> hurrr
<andrewvos> Oh jesus it was horrific
<andrewvos> That movie was so bad I actually got angry
<yorickpeterse> was it just boring? The trailer looked semi ok
<andrewvos> Was in a bad mood for the rest of the day
<andrewvos> I don't even know it was just not good
<yorickpeterse> Big robots? K, I'll have two. Big monsters? Sure!
<andrewvos> The whole plan of making huge robots to go punch big monsters to death is just weird really
<lianj> this thing still runs on 50 diesel engines, old school. saves the world
<lianj> yay
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: bigger == better, right?
<yorickpeterse> at least according to Hollywood
<andrewvos> Yeah because 50 diesel engines = gigantic walking robot
<whitequark> the pacific rim trailer looks like the movie is an Evangelion ripoff
<yorickpeterse> a walking hole in the ozon layer
<yorickpeterse> * ozone
<andrewvos> But it wasn't even the technical aspects that were bad
<andrewvos> Those don't normally piss me off
<andrewvos> The story was so painfully boring
<whitequark> (also lol, look up diesel engines which power ships. pretty sure you'd better off with one)
<andrewvos> Like, oh, so the main dudes brother dies. Best go become a construction worker for five years.
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<andrewvos> whitequark: Ok fair point.
<andrewvos> Tug boats are pretty powerful
<lianj> andrewvos: go watch internship
<whitequark> I mean, 50 engines = 50x moving parts, you don't want that. You'd want to have two, running one after another
<andrewvos> So anyway, then the government appears and is like "stop being a construction worker man, we NEED you"
<whitequark> so you have equal service time and a backup in case one engine dies
<andrewvos> whitequark: You're thinking too much into this man
<andrewvos> lianj: Googling it
<yorickpeterse> Pretty sure whitequark already has a blueprint on how to build an actual Gundam suit
<andrewvos> I would not be surprised
<lianj> whitequark: lets make the head where the pilots are out of cardboard
<whitequark> andrewvos: can't stand movies/anime with half-assed tech. either do it so good I can hardly nitpick it, or just go to eleven ignoring every single law of nature
<whitequark> either of those are good
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: I hate giant robots in any form
<whitequark> it's so... suboptimal
<yorickpeterse> hahaha
<andrewvos> whitequark: Well I've seen you around for a couple years and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't enjoy any sci-fi movie then :)
<whitequark> andrewvos: most of them, indeed
<whitequark> BSG was borderline ok.
<andrewvos> I actually rewatched BSG recently. Not as good the second time around.
<yorickpeterse> BSG?
<whitequark> battlestar galactica
<yorickpeterse> oh
<whitequark> I think when I first watched it, it was a 40 hours straight dive
<yorickpeterse> I remember watching Starship Troopers. That was a terrible mistake
<yorickpeterse> The whole movie is basically "BLAAAARGGHGH GIANT INSECTS PEW PEW PEW PEW NOOOOO DERP IS DEAD BLAAARGHHH *KABOOM*"
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Startship Troopers is cool, you are wrong.
<andrewvos> Err Starship
<yorickpeterse> Interesting enough I do enjoy most of Arnold's movies
<yorickpeterse> e.g. the first Predator was pretty funny
<yorickpeterse> "IF IT BLEEDS WE CAN KILL IT"
<yorickpeterse> and ofc "GET TO DA CHOPPAH"
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<andrewvos> whitequark: <3 your last tweet, it made me laugh
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<andrewvos> Not real world laugh. But I did kind of push some air out of my nose faster than usual.
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<yorickpeterse> hmpf, seems that with every release of Chromium either Flash or Chromium itself gets more and more unstable
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<yorickpeterse> noice, I have a rough setup for getting type info from YARD tags
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<yorickpeterse> since ruby-lint doesn't really have a notion of compound types. Probably will just disgard that info for now
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<andrewvos> Couldn't you just have used a gem and then carried on with your life?
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<yorickpeterse> A Gem that does what?
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<yorickpeterse> and parsing YARD tags is fairly easy since the syntax is consistent enough
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