2015-10-22 00:44 fengling has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 00:59 hi 2015-10-22 00:59 does somebody know synopsys custom designer software? 2015-10-22 01:00 what is exactly that? does somebody know some open source replacement for that kind of software synopsys sells' 2015-10-22 01:00 ? 2015-10-22 01:02 sandeepkr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 01:25 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 02:35 you mean this ? http://www.synopsys.com/Tools/Implementation/CustomImplementation/Pages/CustomDesignerLE.aspx 2015-10-22 02:36 kicad comes to mind as a replacement :) 2015-10-22 02:36 well, maybe not. "nanometer" suggests it's about making chips, not circuits 2015-10-22 02:38 this list may have something: http://www.vlsitechnology.org/html/ic_software.html 2015-10-22 02:38 building a chip factory ? :) 2015-10-22 02:41 more stuff: http://electronicsforu.com/electronicsforu/circuitarchives/view_article.asp?sno=1666&id=12753 2015-10-22 02:52 http://www.vlsitechnology.org/html/ic_software.html 2015-10-22 02:52 it seems to be an old list 2015-10-22 02:53 dandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 02:53 yeah, i meant synopsys.com 2015-10-22 02:53 hmm, yes, 2007 2015-10-22 02:53 software. at engineering faculty 2015-10-22 02:53 will be a HUGE BIGGEST BEST congress 2015-10-22 02:53 next year 2015-10-22 02:53 and they will pay students around AR 2015-10-22 02:54 transport and hostel 2015-10-22 02:54 to do the GREAT courses 2015-10-22 02:54 about nano micro chips 2015-10-22 02:54 design 2015-10-22 02:55 of course, they asked me if our labs is okey to run virtualbox with synopsys and similar propietary software 2015-10-22 02:55 which is free for the courses 2015-10-22 02:55 i remember there's also some french-made chip design system. i think it's alliance: https://soc-extras.lip6.fr/en/alliance-abstract-en/ 2015-10-22 02:55 because the professor of the courses will be people from synopsys.com who will come to ARG 2015-10-22 02:55 just for this congress 2015-10-22 02:55 wow :) 2015-10-22 02:56 then that did to rememeber me the RMS words 2015-10-22 02:56 about free (gratis) propietary software for students 2015-10-22 02:56 in education 2015-10-22 02:56 free opium ;-) 2015-10-22 02:56 which of course is not free after they get the degreee 2015-10-22 02:57 exactly 2015-10-22 02:58 and then now I feeel a little bad if I colaborate with that congress like I promised to the engineering faculty 2015-10-22 03:00 this one looks like fun. good luck remembering all the (100+, it seems) color codes ;-) http://opencircuitdesign.com/magic/ 2015-10-22 03:00 Of course, electronic people here do not know anything about open source. So they feel that they are winning the heaven with the huGE effort they do to get all the money to pay the transport and hostel for the students for the courses 2015-10-22 03:00 fengling has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 2015-10-22 03:00 you could do some intro courses a few months before. so all the students will ask how they can map their alliance/magic/etc. workflow to the synopsys tools ;) 2015-10-22 03:05 this may also be useful: http://ilin.asee.org/Conference2010/Papers/A1_Liu_Anan.pdf 2015-10-22 03:21 wildlander has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 2015-10-22 04:18 is there a single production chip out there made with open source tools only? 2015-10-22 04:18 how many open source chips do you know? 2015-10-22 04:20 these are the questions you should ask before feeling bad about collaboration with these proprietrary vendors 2015-10-22 04:20 infobot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 05:10 archang has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 05:20 rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2015-10-22 06:09 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 06:29 dandon has quit [Quit: .] 2015-10-22 06:32 FlawlesS has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 06:42 kyak: if there is one, it means that you can feel confident for you have a proof of concept; if there are many, you can feel confident because it's a well-established process; if there is none, you should be ecstatic for you'll do truly pioneering work. a win-win-win scenario :) 2015-10-22 06:43 besides, they've been at some of those tools for a long time. so there must be at least a bunch of chips from academic projects. 2015-10-22 08:39 atommann has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-10-22 08:52 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 09:02 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 09:03 atommann has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 09:23 sandeepkr has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 09:25 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 09:30 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 09:37 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 10:19 atommann has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 10:29 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 10:29 jekhor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2015-10-22 10:47 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-10-22 11:47 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 12:09 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 12:22 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 12:29 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2015-10-22 12:39 freespace has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-10-22 12:39 freespace has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 12:54 atommann has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-10-22 13:16 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 14:06 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 14:09 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2015-10-22 14:15 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 14:19 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-10-22 14:44 Greg__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 14:44 FlawlesS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-10-22 14:53 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2015-10-22 14:57 apelete_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 14:58 luke-jr_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 15:00 zrafa_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 15:00 kanzure_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 15:04 __Greg has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 15:06 Greg__ has quit [*.net *.split] 2015-10-22 15:06 kanzure has quit [*.net *.split] 2015-10-22 15:06 apelete has quit [*.net *.split] 2015-10-22 15:06 Luke-Jr has quit [*.net *.split] 2015-10-22 15:06 zrafa has quit [*.net *.split] 2015-10-22 15:06 rozzin has quit [*.net *.split] 2015-10-22 15:25 rozzin has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 15:34 FlawlesS has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 15:48 FlawlesS has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-10-22 15:55 infobot has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 16:27 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 18:11 Greg__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 18:12 __Greg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-10-22 19:20 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2015-10-22 19:24 luke-jr_ is now known as Luke-Jr 2015-10-22 19:39 kanzure_ is now known as kanzure 2015-10-22 19:59 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 20:05 jekhor__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 20:06 Greg__ has left #qi-hardware [#qi-hardware] 2015-10-22 20:09 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-10-22 20:28 FDCX_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 22:09 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 22:13 jekhor__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 22:30 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 22:47 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-10-22 22:59 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 23:28 _whitelogger has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 23:29 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-10-22 23:29 whitequark has joined #qi-hardware 2015-10-22 23:35 FDCX_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]