2015-08-21 00:39 Nik05 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-08-21 01:04 Nik05 has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 01:41 fengling has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 02:36 archang has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-08-21 02:36 archang has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 02:39 fengling has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-08-21 02:41 wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 02:42 welcome back, world ! :) 2015-08-21 02:59 archang has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-08-21 03:03 Nik05 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-08-21 03:06 Nik05 has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 03:06 fengling has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 03:40 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 03:46 rjeffries has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 04:04 fengling has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 2015-08-21 04:04 archang has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 04:22 (pronunciation of "wpwrak") i'd just pronounce it as if it was a regular german word. sounds bumpy and ugly, but given that it's mainly optimized for uniqueness, that ought to be fine :) 2015-08-21 04:41 atommann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2015-08-21 04:56 err I fail to speak "wpwrak" 2015-08-21 04:56 4 consonants :-o 2015-08-21 04:57 "wepewrak" would work 2015-08-21 04:57 yeah, it's an effort to make it to he bonus vowel ;-) 2015-08-21 04:58 even wepwrak 2015-08-21 04:58 maybe think of "wpwrak" as a stifled burp ;) 2015-08-21 04:58 "wp" is unspeakable 2015-08-21 04:58 think "whip" and delete the "i" :) 2015-08-21 05:00 rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-08-21 05:00 maybe provide a audio for the pronunciation 2015-08-21 05:02 on an unrelated topic I think I cought a slight cold in the night of tuesday to wednesday. which comes in handy for finishing the whole camp infra etc 2015-08-21 05:17 indeed :) i'm kinda surprised i didn't get one of my own 2015-08-21 05:28 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 06:00 something cool to build http://imgur.com/a/DyQZL 2015-08-21 06:29 xiangfu: HI! 2015-08-21 06:30 hi! (sorry capslock) 2015-08-21 07:03 ccnnjj has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2015-08-21 07:08 fengling has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 08:08 DocScrutinizer05: Hi 2015-08-21 08:12 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 08:37 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-08-21 09:02 jwhitmore has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 09:34 fengling has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-08-21 09:35 archang has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2015-08-21 09:35 fengling has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 09:51 fengling has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 2015-08-21 10:02 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 10:07 jwhitmore has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-08-21 10:46 ccnnjj has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 11:13 jwhitmore has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 11:50 FDCX has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2015-08-21 11:52 FDCX has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 12:28 kanzure has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2015-08-21 12:29 kanzure has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 12:30 ccnnjj has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2015-08-21 13:17 FDCX has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-08-21 13:30 FDCX has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 14:26 ccnnjj has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 15:45 jwhitmore has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2015-08-21 16:03 eintopf: so, you want a adf7242? 2015-08-21 16:58 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2015-08-21 17:26 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 17:39 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-08-21 17:54 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-08-21 18:09 larsc: I got a offer that somebody will give me a adf7242, but I am also happy to maintain at86rf2xx and to work with mrf24jFOOBAR 2015-08-21 18:09 and of course work with atusb 2015-08-21 18:10 not important, I will keep to work with at86rf2xx, mrf24jFOOBAR and atusb. It's still hard to keep everything up-to-date to the recent mainline state 2015-08-21 18:11 so they have the latest greatest features 2015-08-21 18:12 http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wpan/msg02876.html 2015-08-21 18:12 here my work for the mrfj24FOOBAR 2015-08-21 18:12 I say foobar because I can't remember the last numbers 2015-08-21 18:13 mrf24j40 ist the transceiver 2015-08-21 18:13 but there exists mrf24j40ma and mrf24j40mc, etc some different boards 2015-08-21 18:13 with amplifier or not 2015-08-21 18:15 eintopf: that somebody is boss, your adf7242 is on my desk, I'll ship it on monday 2015-08-21 18:15 is my boss 2015-08-21 18:15 and why do you know my name >:-| 2015-08-21 18:16 I expected it to be you 2015-08-21 18:17 does your company like to have the driver mainline? 2015-08-21 18:17 sure 2015-08-21 18:17 that was always the paln 2015-08-21 18:19 yea but mainline is also not quite now, it's better than when the project was linux-zigbee 2015-08-21 18:19 depends many people (inclusive myslef) have more effort to implement 6lowpan 2015-08-21 18:19 the address family 802.15.4 is still somewhat broken at some places 2015-08-21 18:20 but we working on this 2015-08-21 18:20 the project grabs now some frameworks from wireless 2015-08-21 18:23 larsc: how easily is it to connect some wires on the transceiver? 2015-08-21 18:23 does it has some female connecters 2015-08-21 18:23 connectors 2015-08-21 18:23 I don't want to solder here much 2015-08-21 18:23 and I am very bad in soldering 2015-08-21 18:24 it's a male header 2015-08-21 18:25 what baseboard do you want to use? 2015-08-21 18:28 I have some beaglebones here and raspberry pi's 2015-08-21 18:28 and I have wires 2015-08-21 18:28 we tested it ith the pi 2015-08-21 18:28 in diffent colors male<->male, female<->male 2015-08-21 18:28 you'll need 7 wires. 4 for SPI, a interrupt and VCC and GND 2015-08-21 18:29 VCC is 3.3? 2015-08-21 18:29 yes 2015-08-21 18:30 and when I have other questions to things what the datasheet doesn't say anything. I can ask you? 2015-08-21 18:30 sure 2015-08-21 18:30 http://media.digikey.com/Photos/Analog%20Devices%20Photos/EVAL-ADF7242-PMDZ.JPG 2015-08-21 18:32 this looks beautiful 2015-08-21 18:32 the most people @linux-wpan use these transceivers http://openlabs.co/store/Raspberry-Pi-802.15.4-radio 2015-08-21 18:32 I think the price is 1 cent cheaper each day 2015-08-21 18:33 and currently I think this man need to produce many of them because - https://lists.riot-os.org/pipermail/devel/2015-August/002858.html 2015-08-21 18:33 but the price is okay 2015-08-21 18:34 I heard the eval board of adf7242 cost much 2015-08-21 18:34 * eintopf never looked what it costs 2015-08-21 18:35 larsc: does the adf7242 have one frame buffer only? 2015-08-21 18:35 or seperate rx/tx buffer? 2015-08-21 18:35 * eintopf need to look 2015-08-21 18:36 no idea to be honest 2015-08-21 18:36 a separate 2015-08-21 18:36 that's good 2015-08-21 18:37 the at86rf2xx have one only, I expierence improvements at mrf24j40 2015-08-21 18:37 mrf24j40 has also separate rx/tx buffer 2015-08-21 18:39 ah cca mode 1 only 2015-08-21 18:39 okay 2015-08-21 18:41 yea, datasheets looks okay 2015-08-21 18:41 I am sure I have question when I look again into it 2015-08-21 18:42 larsc: and can I have the source for the firmware? :-) 2015-08-21 18:42 no, little joke :( 2015-08-21 18:43 probably not 2015-08-21 18:43 I don't have it either 2015-08-21 18:44 we are unworthy software developers ;) 2015-08-21 18:46 mhh, where are the register settings for the address filter 2015-08-21 18:46 maybe I should lookup it in the current driver 2015-08-21 18:48 doesn't described inside the datasheet but driver use 0x116 2015-08-21 18:48 base address 0x116 for the extended address 2015-08-21 18:49 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-08-21 18:51 I think I have not the _real_ for internal use datasheet ;-) 2015-08-21 18:51 this is the latest version of the driver https://github.com/analogdevicesinc/linux/blob/xcomm_zynq/drivers/net/ieee802154/adf7242.c 2015-08-21 18:51 yes 2015-08-21 18:52 #define REG_IEEE_ADDR_0 0x116 2015-08-21 18:52 this isn't described in my version of datasheet 2015-08-21 18:52 Rev. 0 2015-08-21 18:53 http://www.analog.com/en/products/rf-microwave/integrated-transceivers-transmitters-receivers/low-power-rf-transceivers/adf7242.html 2015-08-21 18:54 All I have is what is on the public website 2015-08-21 18:54 it's a fake register IIRC 2015-08-21 18:54 handled by the firmware 2015-08-21 18:55 hmpf 2015-08-21 18:57 so the datasheet doesn't represent the current available firmware? 2015-08-21 18:59 0x116 is for the 64-bit address 2015-08-21 18:59 http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/application-notes/AN-1082.pdf 2015-08-21 18:59 ahh here is the right document 2015-08-21 18:59 yeah. I don't know where that info actually comes from. 2015-08-21 18:59 register map extensions 2015-08-21 19:00 okay 2015-08-21 19:00 I will put that to my materials 2015-08-21 19:00 ah, great 2015-08-21 19:01 also, I'm pretty sure that the chip can work without any firmware 2015-08-21 19:02 (and then the advanced features are not available) 2015-08-21 19:05 address filtering is also only a optional feature 2015-08-21 19:05 to reduce workload 2015-08-21 19:05 I think I will have more question when I work on it :/ 2015-08-21 19:06 also question is for me if the transceiver automatically detects if acknowledge request bit is set and waiting after transmit for an ack 2015-08-21 19:06 or I need to go into some special state or do I need set some register bit for that 2015-08-21 19:18 a great 2015-08-21 19:18 the transceiver will do that automatically 2015-08-21 19:19 If it is set, then an acknowledgment 2015-08-21 19:19 frame is expected following the transmission. 2015-08-21 20:12 infobot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-08-21 22:23 pcercuei has quit [Quit: dodo]