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Should suffice to make anelok identify which of your stored passwords is needed 2015-06-23 22:12 some 10 to 15 baud are possible for sure by such morse monitor gif 2015-06-23 22:14 so, 2.5s for 4 chars plus checksum 2015-06-23 22:16 the anel.ok site could get used by all anelok users, it doesn't hold any special info or complicated infra that needs auth or protection 2015-06-23 22:18 it simply converts referrer URL to a 4char fingerprint plus checksum (1char) and converts and displays that to a flickering black and white animated gif. On it returns to referrer site 2015-06-23 22:19 the privacy issues are moderate 2015-06-23 22:25 (new stuff) yeah, trying to finally test whether RF can actually send and receive 2015-06-23 22:25 ooh, and for auth input, did you consider "tresor code" input method? like: left:$many, right:5, left:7, right:2, left:5, hit-OK 2015-06-23 22:26 err, you don't have that nice scrollwheel anymore, do you? 2015-06-23 22:27 (QR) well, one way is to have some browser plugin that either auto-detects when a password is wanted or that receives some special signals. QR would be fancier, though :) alas, also on the hw side 2015-06-23 22:27 read on! ;-) 2015-06-23 22:28 (tresor code) abandoned that approach in 2013. where have you been ? ;-) 2015-06-23 22:28 you know you can even abuse normal LED as photdiode? 2015-06-23 22:28 (where have you been?) on youtube, watching a video of xiangfu 2015-06-23 22:29 aaah ! ;-) 2015-06-23 22:29 it was top hit on google 2015-06-23 22:29 link ? 2015-06-23 22:30 google:anelok 2015-06-23 22:30 git was 2nd 2015-06-23 22:30 aah :) 2015-06-23 22:30 wow. that's old :) 2015-06-23 22:30 yeah, but names like anelok are awesome 2015-06-23 22:31 indeed. very google-friendly ;-) 2015-06-23 22:31 take this, amazon "echo" :) 2015-06-23 22:32 i actually had a photo sensor input in the design for a while. but nobody did anything with the idea, so i kicked it out again. space is critical, no room for might have beens :) 2015-06-23 22:37 you got a LED, right? 2015-06-23 22:37 btw a photsensor is fine to save energy by dimming backlight 2015-06-23 22:38 if you got any ;-) 2015-06-23 22:39 hey, you have a transparent case (of sorts) - so adding a photo-(LE)D shouldn't be any big issue 2015-06-23 22:39 those red SMD LEDs are really tiny 2015-06-23 22:39 and work amazingly well as photodiode 2015-06-23 22:41 jwhitmore has joined #qi-hardware 2015-06-23 22:42 http://wstaw.org/m/2015/06/24/plasma-desktopuk1947.png LED3 iirc https://github.com/r0ket/r0ket/blob/master/hardware/r0ket/r0ket.sch.png 2015-06-23 22:45 if the case was completely transparent, a simple tiny LED mounted directly on PCB and connected to a A/D GPIO should suffice to receive the morse-gif 2015-06-23 22:45 if you want to paint it black, you might need a window for the LED 2015-06-23 22:50 usecase: on PC hit F6, enter "anel.ok", activate anelok receive mode and hold device direction screen, hit PC , wait until anelok received valid fingerprint code (display flashes with code received), hit PC again to return to $arbitrary_page, on anelok authenticate for password playback, plug in anelok to PC USB where it registers as kbd and "types" the (username and) password 2015-06-23 22:51 unplug 2015-06-23 22:52 sounds good? 2015-06-23 22:53 lemme rephrase to eliminate some fuzzy wording 2015-06-23 22:54 usecase: on PC in browser $arbitrary_page hit F6, enter "anel.ok", activate anelok receive mode and hold device direction screen, hit PC , wait until anelok received valid fingerprint code (anelok display flashes with fingerprint code received), hit PC again to return to $arbitrary_page, on anelok authenticate for password playback, plug in anelok to PC USB where it enumerates as kbd and "types" the (username and) 2015-06-23 22:54 password 2015-06-23 22:56 (wait until...) shouldn't take longer than 3 s usually 2015-06-23 22:59 jwhitmore has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-06-23 23:00 for the "morse" encoding you probbaly could re-use ordinary barcode decoder and instead of width of black and white stipes in barcode you use black and bright periods of duration proportional to bar's width 2015-06-23 23:01 in the animated gif 2015-06-23 23:05 jwhitmore has joined #qi-hardware 2015-06-23 23:06 oooh, and probably ANELOK should rather display both the fingerprint code and the associated name (aka website URL or whatever) on receiving a valid code 2015-06-23 23:09 err the display is OLED, right? not LCD with backlight 2015-06-23 23:10 * DocScrutinizer05 just pondered exploiting the LCD backlight LEDs as photosensor. That won't fly with OLED 2015-06-23 23:11 could you share a http link to recent anelok schematics please? 2015-06-23 23:15 jwhitmore has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-06-23 23:32 wildlander has joined #qi-hardware 2015-06-23 23:53 current design (CR2032): http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/anelok/tmp/anelok-20150107.pdf 2015-06-23 23:53 note that this will change a fair bit 2015-06-23 23:54 lemme make a WIP snapshot ... 2015-06-23 23:55 http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/anelok/tmp/anelok-20150623-wip.pdf 2015-06-23 23:55 key changes: AAA battery, 2nd MCU