2015-04-01 01:36 fengling has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 01:44 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 01:56 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-04-01 02:00 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 02:01 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 02:11 atommann has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-04-01 02:12 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 04:24 rjeffries has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 04:54 infobot_ has quit [Quit: cyal8r] 2015-04-01 04:56 infobot has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 05:40 atommann has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-04-01 05:48 rjeffries has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-04-01 05:52 atommann has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 06:21 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 07:29 freespace has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-04-01 07:47 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 07:54 ((so they must be single-digit cents in the rest of the world)) rather like 3 digit cents 2015-04-01 08:09 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 08:15 archang has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 08:32 freespace has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 08:43 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-04-01 08:48 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 08:52 arossdotme: there is no such resistor to "put across USB socket", so also no value for it 2015-04-01 08:53 arossdotme: and yes, the docs are charger amendment to USB spec 2015-04-01 08:53 but you don't want to read those since they are obfuscated wording 2015-04-01 08:56 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Power for a short introduction 2015-04-01 08:57 http://web.archive.org/web/20140329080504/http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/batt_charging_1_1.zip for the gory details 2015-04-01 08:59 http://www.instructables.com/id/Modify-a-cheap-USB-charger-to-feed-an-iPod-iPhone/ for *CHRAGER*, *NOT* device side 2015-04-01 09:00 generally chargers are dumb PSU and don't need _anything_ to provide whatever they can 2015-04-01 09:01 it's up to your device to *detect* the resistors in charger to determine how much power your device may draw from it 2015-04-01 09:01 or you simply ignore all such detection hassly and draw as much as you need, hoping that the charger won't explode ;-) 2015-04-01 09:02 hassle* 2015-04-01 09:23 in a charger you often short D+ D- to indicate that it's well 2015-04-01 09:23 a charger 2015-04-01 09:23 the device will then usually place no current limit and draw 2A or so 2015-04-01 09:23 tablets even 4A sometimes 2015-04-01 09:27 4A via USB? Duh! 2015-04-01 09:28 some large 10" or such tablet 2015-04-01 09:28 crazy but they do it 2015-04-01 09:29 generally it's correct, there are 3 ways a charger can signal it's a charger: ID pin resistor to GND, D+/- short, and a number of resistor networks on D+/- to signal several apple-compatible chargers of different power 2015-04-01 09:29 a device however usually needs one particular of those 3 alternative/complementary methods 2015-04-01 09:30 only a very few devices check for more than just one method 2015-04-01 09:30 e.g. Neo900 will 2015-04-01 09:30 it checks for all D+/- based signaling 2015-04-01 09:30 archang has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-04-01 10:24 atommann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2015-04-01 10:26 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-04-01 10:26 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2015-04-01 10:55 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 11:52 dandon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-04-01 11:53 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 12:10 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-04-01 12:16 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 12:48 dandon has quit [Quit: fcuk that shhit] 2015-04-01 12:53 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 13:10 arr ok, i see so in this case i don't need to do anything fancy. 2015-04-01 13:10 thanks muchly 2015-04-01 13:11 the resistor across the data,id pins are for the devices sake and not for the charger... what was i thinking... silly me 2015-04-01 13:12 dandon has quit [Quit: .] 2015-04-01 13:12 but thx for the links 2015-04-01 13:12 i'll have a loot in a bit 2015-04-01 13:25 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 14:13 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-04-01 14:59 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 15:14 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 15:44 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-04-01 16:03 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2015-04-01 16:37 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-04-01 17:05 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 18:28 Haswell has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 18:50 wpwrak has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-04-01 18:50 wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 19:02 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-04-01 19:09 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 19:16 wpwrak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-04-01 19:16 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-04-01 19:17 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 19:31 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-04-01 19:36 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 19:45 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-04-01 19:54 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 20:34 pcercuei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-04-01 20:34 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 21:00 Haswell has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 2015-04-01 21:02 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 21:07 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-04-01 21:25 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2015-04-01 21:34 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 21:41 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-04-01 21:48 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-04-01 22:01 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 22:09 wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware 2015-04-01 22:16 wpwrak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-04-01 23:47 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]