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2015-03-12 02:23 <DocScrutinizer05> yes, exactly this one
2015-03-12 02:29 <wpwrak> hmm, i still have my doubts. just because you can buy it doesn't necessarily mean that it will work :)
2015-03-12 02:34 <DocScrutinizer05> oooh
2015-03-12 02:35 <DocScrutinizer05> you know Germany? Guess what happens when you buy sth in a shop like Conrad that doesn't work
2015-03-12 02:36 <wpwrak> so they don't sell penis enlargement in .de ? ;-)
2015-03-12 02:37 <DocScrutinizer05> not that I know of
2015-03-12 02:37 <DocScrutinizer05> never searched for it thoigh, so I can't tell for sure
2015-03-12 02:38 <DocScrutinizer05> actually even TV commercials with obviously incorrect claims are forbidden
2015-03-12 02:39 <DocScrutinizer05> s/obviously/verifiable/
2015-03-12 02:39 <qi-bot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: "actually even TV commercials with verifiable incorrect claims are forbidden"
2015-03-12 02:41 <DocScrutinizer05> even such commercials with absolutely non-verifiable claims are already critical. Particularly when those claims are about health of nutrition (functional food?)
2015-03-12 02:42 <wpwrak> yeah ... "dasch waescht am weissesten" usw. besides a few technicalities, i remember german advertising as being just as dishonest as anywhere else ;-)
2015-03-12 02:42 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe it was a 20 or 30 years ago
2015-03-12 02:44 <wpwrak> actually, when i read in c't of all the dirty things companies do to their customers, all those fancy laws don't seem to help much
2015-03-12 02:44 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed
2015-03-12 02:44 <DocScrutinizer05> "up to 16Mbyte bandwidth"... UP TO
2015-03-12 02:44 <DocScrutinizer05> WHO THE FSCK CARES?
2015-03-12 02:44 <wpwrak> hehe :)
2015-03-12 02:45 <DocScrutinizer05> I wanna know what I'm *guaranteed* to get
2015-03-12 02:45 <wpwrak> zero or more ;-)
2015-03-12 02:45 <DocScrutinizer05> exactly
2015-03-12 02:45 <DocScrutinizer05> that's our honest commercials
2015-03-12 02:45 <wpwrak> well, bandwidth is tricky
2015-03-12 02:46 <wpwrak> btw, that cable is cheap. you could get one and see if it gives you happiness or becomes a new source of frustration
2015-03-12 02:47 <DocScrutinizer05> yeahm but they sell you a "up to 16Mbit" internet, and when you get 1Mbit, you pay the same and cannot cancel the contract either
2015-03-12 02:48 <DocScrutinizer05> happy guy when you have a contract for only 3 months then
2015-03-12 02:48 <DocScrutinizer05> usually they are 24 months
2015-03-12 02:50 <wpwrak> strong laws also mean that angry customers can't just stop paying and disappear :)
2015-03-12 02:50 <DocScrutinizer05> and when switchng internet provider, you again need tons of luck to not fall in between the cliffs and are without _any_ internet for the next 12 months
2015-03-12 02:51 <wpwrak> yes, i read "vorsicht kunde" :)
2015-03-12 02:51 <DocScrutinizer05> with provider_new telling provider_old doesn't hand over the line, and old tells that new never asked for it
2015-03-12 02:51 <wpwrak> and i always wonder whether germany still has colonies in the 3rd world :)
2015-03-12 02:52 <DocScrutinizer05> no, we're our own 3rd world colony
2015-03-12 02:52 <wpwrak> mass-masochism ;-)
2015-03-12 02:55 <DocScrutinizer05> that's called industry ran by capitalism. The people is only involved as far as idiocy matters
2015-03-12 02:56 <DocScrutinizer05> Germans for sure have a general hang om some sort of masochism, but that's completely unrelated and irrelevant here
2015-03-12 02:57 <DocScrutinizer05> masochism starts at Ikea at Saturdays ;-)
2015-03-12 02:59 <DocScrutinizer05> it's the neo-liberal BS that results in this wild-west capitalism
2015-03-12 03:01 <DocScrutinizer05> DB not investing anymore into their rails, so all trains get delayed and some stations completely abandoned, that's just to make the IPO(?) at stock exchange work. Nobody wants late trains, and abandoned stations and all that with even higher prices for the tickets
2015-03-12 03:03 <DocScrutinizer05> not masochism either. Just political idiocy based on neo-liberalism
2015-03-12 03:07 <DocScrutinizer05> politics is just executive of industry, since quite some time already
2015-03-12 03:08 <DocScrutinizer05> they can only decide where industry doesn't think lobbying is worth the money
2015-03-12 03:09 <DocScrutinizer05> s§where§when/if§
2015-03-12 03:10 <DocScrutinizer05> or "as long as"
2015-03-12 03:12 <DocScrutinizer05> for example: did you know you can earn money by consuming electrical power? HUGE amounts of electrical power
2015-03-12 03:12 <DocScrutinizer05> like 100s of MW
2015-03-12 03:13 <DocScrutinizer05> then you can sell your ability to consume that much power, and make a few pence per kWh
2015-03-12 03:14 <wpwrak> yeah, nice :)
2015-03-12 03:18 <DocScrutinizer05> I wonder if breweries would pay me for drinking beer
2015-03-12 03:19 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
2015-03-12 03:20 <DocScrutinizer05> but nah, they rather pay the landfill for taking a 1000 t of apples, than giving them away for free
2015-03-12 03:25 <DocScrutinizer05> or look at that extended shelf life milk crap. I don't know any masochist who *wants* that poor quality milk, even while it admittedly keeps "fesh" a few days longer (when you're lucky and the extended life wasn't used up in shelf). Nevertheless it's nearly impossible to find _normal_ milk anywhere, since for the shops and the whole supply chain it's simply more convenient to deal with ESL shit
2015-03-12 03:41 <wpwrak> hmm, if that already upsets you, then i better don't tell you the ugly truth about milk and expiration dates :)
2015-03-12 03:42 <whitequark> hhahaha
2015-03-12 03:50 <DocScrutinizer05> wouldn't know which truth might hide there that's not easily experienced in daily life
2015-03-12 03:51 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway what upstes me is not the expiration date but the vanishing of good tasty milk
2015-03-12 03:51 <wpwrak> hm, checked and it may in fact be a myth. gotta ask my source ...
2015-03-12 03:54 <wpwrak> this one (with claim that the theory is wrong): http://www.packagingeurope.com/Packaging-Europe-News/28159/Tetra-Pak-Romania-invalidates-repasteurized-milk-rumours.html
2015-03-12 03:55 <DocScrutinizer05> it doesn't even sound like worth reading
2015-03-12 03:55 <DocScrutinizer05> tetra pak already sounds like H-"milk"
2015-03-12 03:56 <DocScrutinizer05> Romania too
2015-03-12 03:56 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm talking about the stuff that expires and gets sour (not mouldy) 4-7 days after production
2015-03-12 03:57 <DocScrutinizer05> not that toxic stuff that has exoiration dates of $NOW + 5 months
2015-03-12 03:59 <DocScrutinizer05> >>The electronic message is accompanied by an **UHT** Tetra Pak milk box...<< MEH!
2015-03-12 03:59 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm refusing to drink that stuff
2015-03-12 04:00 <wpwrak> yeah, healthy living is important. no smoking, no alcohol, regular exercise, ... oh, wait ! :)
2015-03-12 04:00 <DocScrutinizer05> fsck no, I want tasty stuff, no crap
2015-03-12 04:00 <DocScrutinizer05> healthy... PFFF
2015-03-12 04:01 <wpwrak> ok, toxins are okay then. but they have to taste good. some milk flavouring agent perhaps ? :)
2015-03-12 04:02 <DocScrutinizer05> they seem incapable to find one that would make UHT milk bearable
2015-03-12 04:04 <DocScrutinizer05> rather I often wonder if the feed the cows with wild garlic that give the milk for UHT
2015-03-12 04:04 <DocScrutinizer05> hey
2015-03-12 04:04 <DocScrutinizer05> they* dammit
2015-03-12 04:05 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't even ejoy latte macciato that's prepared with UHT milk
2015-03-12 04:06 <DocScrutinizer05> it tastes awful
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2015-03-12 04:07 <DocScrutinizer05> and ESL milk is UHT in disguise
2015-03-12 04:07 <DocScrutinizer05> they don't heat it to 120°C but only to 108°C or sth like that
2015-03-12 04:09 <wpwrak> with GMO garlic :)
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2015-03-12 20:43 <larsc> wpwrak: I hope you didn't consider migrating to google code
2015-03-12 20:53 <wpwrak> larsc: hah, that indeed didn't occur to me :) is that even in the same league ? naw, thinking of github
2015-03-12 20:56 <whitequark> wpwrak: i mentioned github doesn't trap your data? you can export it easily
2015-03-12 20:59 <whitequark> e.g. try this
2015-03-12 20:59 <whitequark> curl -v -H 'Accept: application/vnd.github.v3+json' https://api.github.com/repos/ocaml/ocaml/issues
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2015-03-12 21:04 <wpwrak> nice (i think :)
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