2015-02-27 01:15 jwhitmore_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 01:18 jwhitmore has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2015-02-27 01:25 jwhitmore_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-02-27 01:27 fengling has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 01:47 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-02-27 02:02 Broadball has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 2015-02-27 02:32 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 03:17 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-02-27 03:23 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 03:24 arossdotme has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-02-27 03:26 arossdotme has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 03:36 archang has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2015-02-27 03:49 archang has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 04:04 arhuaco has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-02-27 04:16 arhuaco has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 04:46 wpwrak: .gitignore: I will update. it. 2015-02-27 04:46 wpwrak: CIS: yes. will do. 2015-02-27 04:46 wpwrak: right now the code is working on SDHC/SDXC >2GB card. I just got a 2GB old card. will test that today. 2015-02-27 04:47 wpwrak: then I think I can try to glue the fatfs and mmc driver. 2015-02-27 05:15 i already merged a few things. lemme push 'em ... 2015-02-27 05:24 great. 2015-02-27 05:28 * xiangfu pulling... 2015-02-27 05:28 arhuaco has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-02-27 05:32 ah, how about doing this ? https://gitorious.org/anelok/anelok/commit/f9730e62499d811ab242a796d249091065f9db61 2015-02-27 05:33 that gets rid of the warnings. i see that the original code also uses "static", so i guess that's something that could go upstream ? 2015-02-27 05:34 larsc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-02-27 05:35 for MMC, what are you using as reference for the protocol ? you changes illustrate nicely that i should have documented where i got all details from (i.e., now i have a hard time understanding what your changes actually mean, since i don't know why my code does what it does), so i guess it's time to fix that 2015-02-27 05:41 MMC: I am using the document : http://elm-chan.org/docs/mmc/gx1/sdinit.png and http://elm-chan.org/docs/mmc/mmc_e.html 2015-02-27 05:41 for me to easy understand. 2015-02-27 05:41 I have the compilicate PDF file about the SD card. let me find the URL 2015-02-27 05:42 oh, these summaries look neat ! 2015-02-27 05:48 the document is this one: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/pls/simplified_specs/partA2_300.pdf 2015-02-27 05:48 page 100 on PDF file. 2015-02-27 05:50 okay, this looks good. let's use this as "master reference" 2015-02-27 05:53 I changed the return value of mmc_init. I use this value to debug. I don't know how to debug the code. so I just display the return value on OLED. 2015-02-27 05:54 (reference) ah wait, one issue seems to be that it doesn't explain SPI mode .. 2015-02-27 05:56 archang has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-02-27 05:57 archang has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 05:58 this one should be the SPI: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/pls/simplified_specs/archive/part1_110.pdf 2015-02-27 05:58 Page: 97 2015-02-27 05:58 heh, just found that we already have a reference: dsv sdcard :) 2015-02-27 05:59 January 22, 2013 2015-02-27 05:59 even has a PDF table of contents ;-) 2015-02-27 05:59 sorry that is the old one. 2015-02-27 06:00 Yes. this one is the correct one: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/pls/simplified_specs/part1_410.pdf 2015-02-27 06:00 Page 153 2015-02-27 06:00 and there is dsv sdprod for the document from SanDisk that contains some of the things they omitted from the "simplified spec" 2015-02-27 06:01 perfect 2015-02-27 06:01 Yes. I will keep working on the mmc code base on this document. right now the code only work with SDHC/SDXC card. 2015-02-27 06:03 how should I debug the mmc code? 2015-02-27 06:03 okay. please try to make small commits that change one thing at a time. e.g., "add crc7" and so on. that will make it much easier to check things. 2015-02-27 06:03 you mean with what cards ? 2015-02-27 06:04 (commits) yes. got it. 2015-02-27 06:04 I mean any 'printf' for debug? 2015-02-27 06:04 :) 2015-02-27 06:05 console_printf ? :) 2015-02-27 06:07 Yes. that is what I using right now. 2015-02-27 06:07 i have to admit that low-level debugging support sucks a bit. console_printf is about the best anelok has. maybe one day we can get swd to work for debugging. i think gdb would support it, or at least there are patches 2015-02-27 06:08 you need a gdbserver 2015-02-27 06:08 jlink has one, stlink has another 2015-02-27 06:09 gdb will work with any gdbserver you provide, unpatched 2015-02-27 06:13 first of all i need to get SWD communication to fail a little less often :) 2015-02-27 06:14 right now it's super-unreliable. already getting a boot loader into the chip takes many tries 2015-02-27 06:14 wpwrak: I have plan to move the ./swd to RPi. 2015-02-27 06:19 should be easy. i've already made it quite portable by porting it to the kl26. rpi should be trivial :) 2015-02-27 06:29 arhuaco has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 06:52 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 07:01 Yes. I saw this lib. 2015-02-27 07:06 lars_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 07:06 lars_ is now known as larsc 2015-02-27 07:14 have to go. 2015-02-27 07:26 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-02-27 07:27 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 07:45 xiangfu has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-02-27 07:55 porchao has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 08:13 lars_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 08:34 is it possible to disable a compiled-in kernel module? Like rmmod, but for modules compiled into kernel 2015-02-27 08:35 say, this module is causing trouble and it is not possible to recompile the kernel without it 2015-02-27 08:35 specifically, i'm talking about built-in fs/ntfs module 2015-02-27 08:38 i'm able to modify the kernel cmdline, and was looking in this direction, but didn't find anything 2015-02-27 08:38 I don't know 2015-02-27 08:39 neither do i :) 2015-02-27 08:39 kernel-parameters.txt :) 2015-02-27 08:39 already looked, this module has no parameters 2015-02-27 08:40 there are not all module parameters 2015-02-27 08:40 but there is a way to set parameters based on module name, iirc. I don't know if disabling exists, though 2015-02-27 08:42 good point 2015-02-27 08:42 i'll look into it 2015-02-27 08:55 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 09:10 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-02-27 09:20 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 09:33 jwhitmore_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 09:37 jwhitmore__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 09:40 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-02-27 09:41 jwhitmore_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-02-27 09:50 jwhitmore__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-02-27 10:29 jwhitmore__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 10:32 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 10:38 jwhitmore_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 10:42 jwhitmore__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-02-27 10:45 arossdotme has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-02-27 10:54 arossdotme has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 11:05 didn't find anything useful there.. 2015-02-27 11:23 jwhitmore_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2015-02-27 11:46 fengling has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 2015-02-27 11:49 jwhitmore_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 11:50 Jay7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-02-27 12:00 Jay7 has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 12:05 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 12:48 jwhitmore_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2015-02-27 12:49 jwhitmore_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 13:21 jwhitmore_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-02-27 13:25 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 13:30 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 13:33 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-02-27 13:42 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-02-27 13:43 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 13:49 jekhor__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 13:52 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-02-27 13:58 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 13:58 jekhor__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2015-02-27 14:11 xiangfu has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-02-27 14:57 jwhitmore_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 15:17 infobot has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2015-02-27 15:19 infobot has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 15:22 infobot has quit [Client Quit] 2015-02-27 15:24 infobot has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 15:45 jekhor__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 15:48 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-02-27 16:01 infobot has quit [Quit: cyal8r] 2015-02-27 16:02 infobot has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 16:12 infobot has quit [Quit: cyal8r] 2015-02-27 16:13 infobot has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 17:15 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-02-27 17:31 jekhor__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2015-02-27 17:36 LOL, they found new threats to structural integrity of ALL nuclear power plants. The steel acts funny and might not last as long as expected 2015-02-27 17:37 link? 2015-02-27 17:38 sorry TV report 2015-02-27 17:38 FrankBlues has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 17:39 hypothesis: hydrogen diffusion converts the steel into puff pastry 2015-02-27 17:39 ohhhh that's well known 2015-02-27 17:39 i mean, hydrogen does that to steel, it's not a hypothesis 2015-02-27 17:39 hehe 2015-02-27 17:39 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_embrittlement "This phenomenon was first described in 1875" 2015-02-27 17:39 "new threats" 2015-02-27 17:40 ahem 2015-02-27 17:40 wow, what hackasses 2015-02-27 17:40 jack* 2015-02-27 17:40 in RU there is a national channel which airs a program describing how to cure cancer with urine 2015-02-27 17:40 risk assessment was a hoax then, when they built the nuklear reactors? 2015-02-27 17:40 it's wildly popular with retirees 2015-02-27 17:41 teaches you not to trust TV very much :D 2015-02-27 17:41 huh? 2015-02-27 17:41 just you said it's well known 2015-02-27 17:41 meh 2015-02-27 17:42 * whitequark shrugs 2015-02-27 17:42 my guess: they dug up something that was "new" in 1965 and sensationalized it for moar views 2015-02-27 17:42 that's usually how it happens 2015-02-27 17:43 my guess is I forgot to hit /igore when I seen link? 2015-02-27 17:44 Belgium recently found thousands of hair cracks in pressure vessel and recommended to check all 400some reactors worldwide 2015-02-27 17:45 now prove that this is stuff they dug up from 1968 2015-02-27 17:45 ok, now you gave me a link 2015-02-27 17:45 http://nuclear-news.net/2015/02/18/a-global-nuclear-industry-problem-as-tests-show-100s-of-cracks-in-belgian-nuclear-reactor/ 2015-02-27 17:46 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 17:46 and this is the actual report: http://www.fanc.fgov.be/GED/00000000/3700/3751.pdf 2015-02-27 17:47 so WHAT? 2015-02-27 17:47 I'm not the one asking for links 2015-02-27 17:47 I'm also not the one spoiled by idiot TV 2015-02-27 17:47 no, you're the one throwing in unsubstantiated sensationalistic claims 2015-02-27 17:48 FU 2015-02-27 17:48 the actual report looks worrying indeed 2015-02-27 17:49 TV news is bullshit until proven otherwise. that's the only reasonable approach 2015-02-27 17:54 internet news is bullshit until proven by honest reporters I know and trust 2015-02-27 17:54 fully agreed 2015-02-27 17:54 sorry my approach is not compatible with yours 2015-02-27 17:55 the only thing it gave me is the link to pdf from the belgium government 2015-02-27 17:55 ("ohhhh that's well known") when russian engineers noticed, corrective actions were taken immediately: all involved saw their vodka ration doubled and were subsequently promoted to new posts either in crimea or siberia, depending on where they would serve their country best :) 2015-02-27 17:56 FrankBlues has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2015-02-27 17:58 http://fanc.fgov.be/page/homepage-federaal-agentschap-voor-nucleaire-controle-fanc/1.aspx has some more interesting info from the source 2015-02-27 17:58 proof it's a valid source or shut up! 2015-02-27 17:59 what makes you think your evaluation of credibility of info is better than mine? 2015-02-27 18:00 your idea of what's TV? 2015-02-27 18:00 reciprocity ? (-:C 2015-02-27 18:00 your TV is not my TV 2015-02-27 18:00 because it's the report from the very agency who performed the evaluation? 2015-02-27 18:00 and particularly your way to watch TV obviously differs massively from mine 2015-02-27 18:00 hasn't had a chance to be distorted by someone calling themselves a "reporter" 2015-02-27 18:00 says who? YOU? 2015-02-27 18:01 you don't believe fanc.fgov.be is the website of FANC? belgium.be says it is: http://www.belgium.be/en/contactinfo_en_sites/Urls/http_www_fanc_fgov_be.jsp, for example 2015-02-27 18:02 the TV report quoted those papers and interviewed experts 2015-02-27 18:02 while you believe in only one source 2015-02-27 18:02 honestly.. STFU 2015-02-27 18:04 unlike you i'm well capable to distinguish a honest report from a "drink your piss" BS 2015-02-27 18:06 you accusing me of >>throwing in unsubstantiated sensationalistic claims<< is an insult 2015-02-27 18:07 it's a literal description of what happened. you claimed something with far-reaching consequences and the only source was a TV 2015-02-27 18:07 well, you did give me a way to find a source eventually 2015-02-27 18:08 you could do that right away and we wouldn't have this conversation. wouldn't it be nice 2015-02-27 18:08 the only source I TOLD YOU ABOUT 2015-02-27 18:08 facepalm 2015-02-27 18:09 and next time my irc client will do the /ignore on my behlaf when you ask for "link?" 2015-02-27 18:09 I'll remember to ask for "source?" instead of "link?", sure 2015-02-27 18:09 (I wonder if his script triggered or not.) 2015-02-27 18:10 you could shut up and search internet right away next time. so we also wouldn't have this convo 2015-02-27 18:10 I did 2015-02-27 18:10 before I asked anything, even 2015-02-27 18:10 I'm fed up with you for today 2015-02-27 18:13 * DocScrutinizer05 suspects whitequark will believe inverviews of whomever only when reading them transcribed in internet. TV live coverage is just BS 2015-02-27 18:19 since we all know: TV always lies. Internet never 2015-02-27 18:20 where did I say "never"? 2015-02-27 18:20 TV always lies. Internet only sometimes :) 2015-02-27 18:21 let me quote the backlog for you 2015-02-27 18:21 17:54 < DocScrutinizer05> internet news is bullshit until proven by honest reporters I know and trust 2015-02-27 18:21 i mean, if someone make all the effort of getting their message on TV, how could they possibly have honest intentions ? :) 2015-02-27 18:21 17:54 < whitequark> fully agreed 2015-02-27 18:24 I'm not talking about commercials here. when you don't see the meduim doesn't make any difference for the way and level of effort you need to check honesty of an info, then I dunno how to fix your obvious problem 2015-02-27 18:25 i WAS checking honesty of info, hence i asked you for the actual source that did the report. i would do the same for internet news, and in fact this is EXACTLY how i eventually found the report 2015-02-27 18:25 no mazzer if TV, internet, radio or newspaper or some rant in latrine. You always need to apply same checks to info 2015-02-27 18:26 you did not ask for source, you asked for "§link?" 2015-02-27 18:27 if you had asked for source, I probably had given you "primary source: Belgium authorities, reported by 3SAT NANO" 2015-02-27 18:29 http://www.3sat.de/page/?source=/nano/umwelt/180756/index.html 2015-02-27 18:31 excellent 2015-02-27 18:34 thanks! please find the invoice for consulting in your email next few days 2015-02-27 18:36 I'll gladly pay you your hourly rate... 2015-02-27 18:36 ... in bitcoin 2015-02-27 18:37 if instead of "link?" and " in RU there is a national channel which airs a program describing how to cure cancer with urine" "teaches you not to trust TV very much :D" you had asked for "which channel? is it available via iternet too?", you would have earned more points on smart-questions account 2015-02-27 18:38 the way you acted you come over like a jackass 2015-02-27 18:39 okay, I guess you're right. sorry about that 2015-02-27 18:41 viric has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2015-02-27 18:43 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 19:02 FDCX_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 19:11 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 19:47 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2015-02-27 20:05 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 20:08 could somebody please try translate the cat's saying for me? http://m.cdn.blog.hu/fr/frankzappa/image/RegiHirek/BarkingPumpkinLogo.gif Or tell me when it's nonsense 2015-02-27 20:12 nevermind https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffrankzappa.blog.hu%2F2013%2F02%2F06%2Faz_ugato_tok_logorol_autentikusan%3Ftoken%3D80d2ae870ed2bdb9fb8c50865ae726f1 2015-02-27 20:16 FDCX_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-02-27 20:20 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-02-27 20:41 DocScrutinizer05: you had to wait one year to find it out? :) http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/qi-hardware_2014-04-05.log.html 2015-02-27 20:42 huh? 2015-02-27 20:42 seriously, i thought for one second that i can see into the future 2015-02-27 20:42 DocScrutinizer05: could somebody savvy of chinese/japanese(?) please translate for me what the cat is saying? http://www.pbase.com/image/84482585 2015-02-27 20:42 you asked that one year ago 2015-02-27 20:43 see, I start suffering Alzheimer 2015-02-27 20:43 what's my disease called? 2015-02-27 20:43 cryptomnesia 2015-02-27 20:44 for the second you thought about the future 2015-02-27 20:44 btw the .ru site linked in above is better than crappy google translate: http://www.arf.ru/Notes/Tinsel/intro2.html 2015-02-27 20:45 hehe 2015-02-27 20:48 "sacred" "feces" X-P 2015-02-27 20:55 damn this site is old 2015-02-27 20:55 also, three letters domain name in .ru zone.. cool 2015-02-27 20:57 pcercuei has quit [Quit: binouze] 2015-02-27 20:58 created: 2000.08.31 2015-02-27 20:59 i have (had) no idea what this site is about, but it should be preserved "as is" as a monument to the internet of 90s :) 2015-02-27 21:00 "This website was founded in autumn 1996 by Vladimir Sovetov the" 2015-02-27 21:00 maybe it had another address at that time, dunno 2015-02-27 21:00 hehe, what about ct.de or db.de 2015-02-27 21:00 jwhitmore_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2015-02-27 21:01 must be as old as the .de domain itself 2015-02-27 21:02 (yes, there been times when no .de existed) 2015-02-27 21:06 the universe appeared in 1970-01-01 2015-02-27 21:11 and dissappeared in 1970-01-01 + MAX_uint64 :) 2015-02-27 21:12 viric_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 21:13 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 21:13 INT_MAX actually 2015-02-27 21:13 so the apocalypse will be soon upon us 2015-02-27 21:15 viric has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-02-27 21:15 viric_ is now known as viric 2015-02-27 21:15 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2015-02-27 21:18 SPAM >> Does your website change as per the user behavior? If your answer is no, then you need a responsive website. << Hell NO!!! 2015-02-27 21:18 seemed to fit in context 2015-02-27 21:23 sei fun 2015-02-27 21:23 ~sei fun is holy shit 2015-02-27 21:23 DocScrutinizer05: please, watch your language. 2015-02-27 21:24 -~uselss 2015-02-27 21:24 -~useless 2015-02-27 21:24 ohmy 2015-02-27 21:24 ~useless 2015-02-27 21:24 * infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( 2015-02-27 21:25 and a last OT comment: RIP Lennard Nimoy 2015-02-27 21:25 Loenard? 2015-02-27 21:26 link: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31662024 2015-02-27 21:27 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-02-27 21:39 jwhitmore_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 21:40 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-27 23:06 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]