2015-02-21 01:05 panda|z has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2015-02-21 01:36 Haswell has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 2015-02-21 03:05 porchao has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 04:50 panda|z has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 06:44 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 09:03 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2015-02-21 10:20 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 11:35 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2015-02-21 12:58 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 13:22 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 13:38 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-02-21 13:39 Nik05_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 13:40 Nik05 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-02-21 13:46 Nik05_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-02-21 14:25 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2015-02-21 14:37 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 15:46 xiangfu has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-02-21 17:05 "Anti-Maidan" in Moscow -- never before heard of a huge demonstration against the results of a fair election *in another country*. Are a large fraction of russian people simply mad or megalomaniacal? 2015-02-21 17:08 I can't imagine what kind of propaganda is there... but among friends, they feel like their territory is attacked, and they are just defending 2015-02-21 17:10 DocScrutinizer05: well, it's a fair election from your point of view :] 2015-02-21 17:11 yeah, not compliant with the russian definition of a "fair election" 2015-02-21 17:12 also it seems it's just as usual: voluntary participation on order from above 2015-02-21 17:13 and actually it seems many think they are demonstrating about some enemy *inside* Russia, they fear a Maidan in Moscow 2015-02-21 17:14 which sonds like absolutely to the point, regarding Putin's concerns and worries 2015-02-21 17:14 sounds* 2015-02-21 17:14 That's the picture I had from my friends this last year too. 2015-02-21 17:16 Haswell has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 17:16 how was that ? "deutschland wird am hinduschk verteidigt". talk about defending your territory :) 2015-02-21 17:17 yeah, same bullshit 2015-02-21 17:23 poor sod Putin sees the communist totalitarian method fail in one of the ex-SSSR states after the other, and even worse, they all join the western club. This for sure must worry him to death, and make him feel like he's looking like loser he actually is 2015-02-21 17:24 and instead of acting smart, he thinks he must act "strong" 2015-02-21 17:27 porchao has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 2015-02-21 17:29 just watched a TV report about Putin (history and all) - two statements were quite enlightening: 1) his own narrative is like "I was a weak boy. Then I learned Judo and beat everybody who argued with me. I didn't even stop beating them when they were down to the ground" 2) some Putin-"expert": >>he's stubborn. And whenever somebody tries to push or manipulate him towards one direction, Putin acts exactly the opposite way and does 2015-02-21 17:29 exactly the opposite of what they try to push him to" 2015-02-21 17:31 the latter makes all those EU/US-sanctions rather questionable 2015-02-21 17:33 it's easy to see how Putin rather tends to demonstrate that those sanctions will _not_ influence nor impress him 2015-02-21 17:35 but then they help a lot to build up a legend about "the whole world has ganged up against Russia" and play the patriotism card internally 2015-02-21 17:35 see anti-maidan 2015-02-21 17:37 Alexander Saldostanow http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/ukraine-1063~magnifier_pos-0.html 2015-02-21 17:56 hmm 2015-02-21 17:56 let's give whole Ukraine to Putin for free then 2015-02-21 17:56 push him more into acting how he does now 2015-02-21 17:56 he'll do the exact opposite and everyone will be happy :) 2015-02-21 18:13 torch tower burning. Well, at least the name fits 2015-02-21 18:13 50th to 70th floor 2015-02-21 18:13 do you turn on TV monthly and then turn to IRC to discuss it, or what? :] 2015-02-21 18:14 nah, just monthly feel like commenting, it seems 2015-02-21 18:14 actually TV hardly ever get switched off 2015-02-21 18:15 I see you're happily getting brainwashed by the DE government 2015-02-21 18:15 no, training my filters 2015-02-21 18:17 actually watching news to mutate from first newsflash version to later more censored version is quite interesting 2015-02-21 18:19 unlike many other countries, we have no censor guys paid by gvmt in the redaction of TV stations. So often the first version is not - yet - "approved" by any such gvmt brainwash. 2015-02-21 18:20 and knowing about the brainwash is even better than not exposing oneself to it at all 2015-02-21 18:22 /h 2015-02-21 18:30 Nik05 has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 18:31 actually any such censorship happening here would be a huge news story in itself. So the amount of such brainwash is naturally limited since it's difficult to do tight invisible coordination of all those journalists to comply with the recent central planning about how and in which direction to such brainwash and censorship 2015-02-21 18:31 in countries where the censorship is well established and a known and "accepted" fact, things work differently 2015-02-21 18:33 of course redaction chiefs may get a call from some minister and then next day tell their colleagues "we generally don't like Putin" or similar basic rules on how to write reports 2015-02-21 18:34 those rules are easy to "see" when you watch carefully the news and compare them to other sources of same info 2015-02-21 18:35 but I wouldn't call that brainwash 2015-02-21 19:31 dos1: the thing is that the ukraine may not be all that attractive for russia. i think putin has what he wants already. so if the rest would just shuts up and behave, i think he'd be more than satisfied. 2015-02-21 20:27 could somebody tell me what's wrong with inotify-tools, please. There must be a reason why it didn't make it into opensuse regular repo during 4 years and up to version 3.14 2015-02-21 21:26 wej_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 22:26 btrfs and snapper, a sysadmin's wet dream 2015-02-21 22:26 awesome stuff 2015-02-21 22:27 now if only I had formatted my rootfs as btrfs already 2015-02-21 23:20 mth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2015-02-21 23:20 mth_ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-02-21 23:39 mth_ is now known as mth