2015-01-19 00:11 <nicksydney> don't know what to think https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-mod-multivibrating-open-source-dildo
2015-01-19 00:13 <wpwrak> you may not be part of the audience whose opinion if very relevant in this case ;-)
2015-01-19 00:13 <nicksydney> hahaahaha
2015-01-19 00:13 <wpwrak> but this sounds a little odd: "For every 100 Mods we sell, we will give 1 to a sex-friendly public hackerspace"
2015-01-19 00:14 <wpwrak> so there are ... orgyspaces ? :)
2015-01-19 00:14 <nicksydney> that's what i thought too...or perhaps a space cater for sex-minded audience ?
2015-01-19 00:14 <nicksydney> not orgy per say but someone who are liberals i should say
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2015-01-19 06:33 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: poly2d/: change license from GPLv2+ to LGPLv2.1+ (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/149fc26
2015-01-19 06:33 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: test/bugs: add regression tests for p2d_no_intersect and angle_3 bugs (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/ae8d393
2015-01-19 06:33 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: sfc/slicer.py: FreeCAD-based slicer, first commit (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/79a8210
2015-01-19 06:33 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: sfc/slicer.py: cleanup and debugging; add various alignment and transformation options (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/ecb7667
2015-01-19 06:34 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: poly2d/p2d_attrib.c (angle_3): prevent acos() domain errors (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/155cfa3
2015-01-19 06:34 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: poly2d/p2d_attrib.c (p2d_is_cw): check that the angle isn't NaN (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/385bd60
2015-01-19 06:34 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: sfc/slicer.py: fix generation of intermediate layers (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/ed0129d
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2015-01-19 07:17 * xiangfu reading the anelok coding.
2015-01-19 07:17 <xiangfu> wpwrak: we are in progress of buying those BOMs.
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2015-01-19 07:29 <wpwrak> great ! any difficulties with finding the parts ?
2015-01-19 07:30 <wpwrak> oh, and do you have some UBB boards ? (for the Ben)
2015-01-19 07:31 <xiangfu> no.
2015-01-19 07:32 <wpwrak> damn :( then making the initial programming of anelok will be a little trickier ...
2015-01-19 07:33 <xiangfu> I can make some of them :)
2015-01-19 07:34 <wpwrak> yeah, that may be the quickest solution ;-)
2015-01-19 07:35 <wpwrak> eventually we'll have a nice test fixture for all this, and since the fixture can use a kl27, it can be flashed via usb without needing any other in-circuit programming, but that's still something that needs to be developed
2015-01-19 07:44 <wpwrak> meanwhile, i'm making good progress with the new case, using a new design and toolpath generation process. i have a ~3 hours jobs running on the mill. with a little luck, that will produce the new top half of the case.
2015-01-19 07:45 <xiangfu> wpwrak: "nice test fixture" no idea how to make progress on that. :)
2015-01-19 07:48 <wpwrak> this sort of critter: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/anelok/tmp/ybpgm-0-rig.jpg
2015-01-19 07:49 <wpwrak> that one was for y-box: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/anelok/tmp/ybpgm-0-parts.jpg
2015-01-19 07:49 <wpwrak> with my new CAD process it should be easy to make that plastic part
2015-01-19 07:51 <wpwrak> the PCB is also fairly simple. but instead of a passive board i want it to have its own MCU. that way, it doesn't need a ben as "brain" and it will also be able to make some measurements (for testing)
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2015-01-19 07:55 <xiangfu> wpwrak: found something : http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.1998025129.1.XjIuA8&id=10850443082&abbucket=_AB-M32_B10&rn=&acm=03054.1003.1.115927&aldid=yhRhdyV3&abtest=_AB-LR32-PR32&scm=1003.1.03054.ITEM_10850443082_115927&pos=1
2015-01-19 07:55 <xiangfu> even faster.
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2015-01-19 07:56 <wpwrak> wow. that's a lot of wires ;-)
2015-01-19 08:00 <xiangfu> this one is expensive: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.132.2B2oDU&id=15749948837&ns=1&abbucket=5&_u=j9mahte11bd#detail
2015-01-19 08:04 <wpwrak> looks really elegant and robust on that HTC ;-)
2015-01-19 08:05 <wpwrak> of course, for that money you can probably make a hundred UBB ;-)
2015-01-19 08:05 <xiangfu> Yes. :)
2015-01-19 08:08 <wpwrak> the most difficult aspect of UBB is where to mechanically connect it to the panel. this shows where having "teeth" on the side would be inconvenient: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/ubb/cleaniness.pdf
2015-01-19 08:08 <wpwrak> red is worst, green is "doesn't matter""
2015-01-19 08:14 <xiangfu> just sent the pdf and gerber file to the PCB maker.
2015-01-19 08:15 <wpwrak> that was quick ;-)
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2015-01-19 08:21 <xiangfu> wpwrak: I am thinking working on the MMC driver.
2015-01-19 08:22 <xiangfu> wpwrak: don't know where to start. I have played with the ./sim -t.
2015-01-19 08:23 <xiangfu> hmm... maybe I try to add a new anelok_mode. for: 1. mmc init, 2. fat init, 3. read /etc/init from fat file system.
2015-01-19 08:23 <xiangfu> how about that?
2015-01-19 08:29 <wpwrak> for low-level mmc, we can probably reuse the code i wrote for tornado: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/antorcha/source/tree/master/tornado/fw/
2015-01-19 08:29 <wpwrak> the simulator would then have a nice block interface. then comes the nasty bit: the FAT file system
2015-01-19 08:32 <wpwrak> fortunately, the FAT file system can be developed in the simulator. all that needs is a block interface abstraction that then, say, uses a file to store the data. mmc.bin or such
2015-01-19 08:33 <wpwrak> so yes, this would be a good thing to have
2015-01-19 08:39 <xiangfu> ok
2015-01-19 08:40 <xiangfu> tornado: great.
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2015-01-19 14:18 <wpwrak> xiangfu: btw, thanks for the youtube upload !
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2015-01-19 18:35 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/anelok/tmp/ybpgm-0-parts.jpg UBB suddenly gave me ideas. How about dual-using 2nd SIM slot for stuff like e.g. VGA-out, on Neo900?
2015-01-19 18:38 <DocScrutinizer05> xiangfu: WOW!!
2015-01-19 18:50 <arossdotme> DocScrutinizer05, nice!
2015-01-19 18:58 <DocScrutinizer05> 8 contacts, not much but same count like MMC
2015-01-19 18:59 <DocScrutinizer05> we already have quite a zoo of mux and GPIO on that card tray(s)
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2015-01-19 19:06 <DocScrutinizer05> off topic question: is it OK to forbid a demonstration when there are known threats of terror against such demo? Isn't it my own decision to nevertheless join and risk my health and life?
2015-01-19 19:06 <DocScrutinizer05> s/deno/arbitrary event/
2015-01-19 19:06 <DocScrutinizer05> demo*
2015-01-19 19:08 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly the fundamental dissent between my own take on that and the commonly applied nanny state approach
2015-01-19 19:11 <DocScrutinizer05> I draw what I want (mohammed), I eat what I want (beef, pork), I drink what I want (alcohol), I laugh about whatever I want
2015-01-19 19:12 <DocScrutinizer05> If I knew what "hashtag" even means, I prolly would start #whatiwant
2015-01-19 19:13 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)  <--- M.
2015-01-19 19:14 <DocScrutinizer05> fools
2015-01-19 19:18 * DocScrutinizer05 hoping for a bazillion Mohammed graffiti on all the walls of this world
2015-01-19 19:20 <DocScrutinizer05> the fools call 90% of their male children "Mohammad" but when you sketch a head they don't even need to name mentioned anywhere to go berserk
2015-01-19 19:20 <DocScrutinizer05> s/to name/the name/
2015-01-19 19:20 <qi-bot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: "the fools call 90% of their male children "Mohammad" but when you sketch a head they don't even need the name mentioned anywhere to go berserk"
2015-01-19 19:21 <DocScrutinizer05> why do they think their religion is any binding for *me*?
2015-01-19 19:25 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, way too OffTopic
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2015-01-19 19:40 <arossdotme> but makes good reading
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2015-01-19 20:49 <DocScrutinizer05> also sorry I again forgot to emphasize that I'm convinced those few thousand fools just abuse religious reasoning to justify their absurd pinky&brain phantasy of conquering the world
2015-01-19 21:02 <ysionneau> well, you are very well allowed to draw what you want, but then you can totally understand that some people can be driven crazy and kill someone. At least in this context of all the arabic world being oppressed by western countries for decades
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2015-01-19 22:10 <nicksydney> wpwrak: new WiFi http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Linkit_Connect_7681
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2015-01-19 22:30 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: (UBB) welcome to the club of UBB-lovers ;-) yes, it is useful. that's why I've been suggesting an external memory card slot. kill two birds with one stone ;-) (well, i'm now less optimistic about this idea, given that the omap only has one 3.3 V-capable MMC bus, and we need that for the eMMC)
2015-01-19 22:31 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: (SIM) i guess that could work. not sure if that would get us into regulatory troubles, though (?)
2015-01-19 22:31 <wpwrak> lemme check the physical properties ...
2015-01-19 22:33 <DocScrutinizer05> regulatory troubles I don't expect with whatever mods to SIM interface as long as it still meets the requirements which are: electrical plus mandatory CardDetect signal when card can get swapped
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2015-01-19 22:33 <DocScrutinizer05> Gemalto themselves suggested mux for dual-SIM
2015-01-19 22:34 <DocScrutinizer05> --> #neo900 please
2015-01-19 22:40 <ysionneau> win 75
2015-01-19 22:41 <larsc> yep, now I'm scared
2015-01-19 22:51 <wpwrak> as in real life IT, on IRC, something beginning with "win" often does not indicate success but rather is a sign of embarrassment and failure ;-)
2015-01-19 22:55 <larsc> win 2
2015-01-19 22:55 <larsc> ;)
2015-01-19 23:04 <ysionneau> ahah
2015-01-19 23:11 <wpwrak> nicksydney: doesn't look very open: the documentation talks a lot about APIs and such, not about registers ...
2015-01-19 23:12 <nicksydney> wpwrak: yeah realised when i read through the doc...the tools are available in Linux though .. that's the only +1 side
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2015-01-19 23:36 <eintopf> okay... I did a mistake by missing a / before my win
2015-01-19 23:36 <eintopf> and btw. this channel is on win 666