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You can even automate conversion of your model to fixed-point arithmetic and generate pure integer code if that matters 2015-01-09 05:26 there is plenty of information in documentation and on mathworks website. 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What a pity, that's what they hoped for 2015-01-09 16:30 yep 3 of them dead it seems :/ 2015-01-09 16:30 I hope there is no severely wounded amoungst GIGN or raid or police 2015-01-09 16:30 (or dead) 2015-01-09 16:31 can't those special forces use shot made of salt instead full metal jacket? 2015-01-09 16:31 no idea 2015-01-09 16:31 dandon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2015-01-09 16:31 maybe the order was to shoot to kill as soon as there is a "shot" 2015-01-09 16:31 we'll never know 2015-01-09 16:32 :-( 2015-01-09 16:32 I don't begrudge those suckers to die, they shall live for a 100 years, in prison 2015-01-09 16:33 s/don't// 2015-01-09 16:33 DocScrutinizer05 meant: "I begrudge those suckers to die, they shall live for a 100 years, in prison" 2015-01-09 16:33 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 16:35 sure, that was the plan, I hope :/ 2015-01-09 16:35 anyway, somehow those guyz also are victim of our shitty society 2015-01-09 16:36 our post-colonialism + racist french environment + crazy social inequalities 2015-01-09 16:36 we create those "monsters" 2015-01-09 16:36 :/ 2015-01-09 16:37 kyak: thanks I will take these infromation into my presentation about matlab simulink code generation 2015-01-09 16:37 Nik05 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2015-01-09 16:37 ysionneau: at least we still don't have neo-nazi demonstrations like in the east of Germany 2015-01-09 16:38 wow yeah... 2015-01-09 16:38 Nik05 has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 16:38 but we have FN and brain-washed skinhead people attending demonstrations to "fight" 2015-01-09 16:38 :/ 2015-01-09 16:38 ysionneau: ((we create)) indeed 2015-01-09 16:39 ysionneau: what do you think about the rumours like those of voltairenet.org? 2015-01-09 16:39 never heard of this website, *click* 2015-01-09 16:39 pcercuei: you got LePen, which is worse than those idiots in Dresden. Anyway I don't like either 2015-01-09 16:40 ysionneau: one policeman investigating the case suicided today 2015-01-09 16:40 it's worse because he/she have power, yes 2015-01-09 16:40 if I understood right 2015-01-09 16:40 ysionneau: a french saying "postcolonialism"? hehe 2015-01-09 16:41 well sure, we have a shitty colonial history and we are still doing those shit 2015-01-09 16:41 I mean that "post" does not quite apply to La France :) 2015-01-09 16:41 right. 2015-01-09 16:41 helping USA to intrude in other countries' business 2015-01-09 16:41 bombing middle east and so on 2015-01-09 16:42 well you are at war in Mali too, and have some Guaiannes, and Corsica, ... 2015-01-09 16:42 ah yes 2015-01-09 16:42 La France doesn't need USA for that 2015-01-09 16:42 and we make and sell weapons to dictatorship :) 2015-01-09 16:42 welcome to France 2015-01-09 16:42 droits de l'homme 2015-01-09 16:43 I know France enough. No need to welcome :) 2015-01-09 16:43 ai fòrça d'amics occitans del nòrd dels Pirineus :) 2015-01-09 16:44 :) 2015-01-09 16:44 do I need to watch the videos on your page? or just read the text 2015-01-09 16:44 as you wish. 2015-01-09 16:44 you're from el Pais Basco? 2015-01-09 16:45 non, soi catalan 2015-01-09 16:45 Hah! 2015-01-09 16:45 nice 2015-01-09 16:45 anyway, as of now, the next imminent threat is our politician who will surely try to pass some "protective" laws ... 2015-01-09 16:45 as pas bezon de parlar amb lo mot castelhan :) 2015-01-09 16:45 + the extremists who will blame all the muslims 2015-01-09 16:46 ysionneau: ACK 2015-01-09 16:46 ysionneau: hence the suspicion whether this was theater-of-state 2015-01-09 16:46 viric: you think it might be a setup to frame muslims? 2015-01-09 16:46 *keeps reading the page* 2015-01-09 16:47 viric: "never attribute to malice what can get explained by mere idiocy" never applied as much as here 2015-01-09 16:48 DocScrutinizer05: that is valid with zero information about the case 2015-01-09 16:48 but you can use extra information too, to get an opinion :) 2015-01-09 16:49 ysionneau: I don't know. I asked you, because I wondered if there is any counter-rumour published. 2015-01-09 16:49 I can believe that maybe some authorities would have been able to stop things, and intentionally let go 2015-01-09 16:49 there is the suicide of the policeman too 2015-01-09 16:50 added to the rumours. 2015-01-09 16:50 haven't heard of it 2015-01-09 16:51 http://quenelplus.com/revue-de-presse/le-numero-2-de-lenquete-sur-charlie-hebdo-sest-suicide.html 2015-01-09 16:51 I simply chose the first link in google 2015-01-09 16:51 jekhor__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2015-01-09 16:52 viric: it's the first time I read such ideas at least, it's not stupid, but I don't see valid proof, so I just don't know :/ 2015-01-09 16:53 TV and newspaper don't broadcast those ideas at least 2015-01-09 16:53 quenelplus, heh 2015-01-09 16:53 it's like legorafi.fr 2015-01-09 16:53 ysionneau: I understand, neither do I. But I wonder if anyone decided to counterback the rumours 2015-01-09 16:53 it's basically anti-information 2015-01-09 16:53 dandon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2015-01-09 16:53 but yes it's very weird that some policeman commited suicide, and was in charge of the case 2015-01-09 16:54 nobody commited suicide 2015-01-09 16:54 maybe it was personal reason and no link with the case... but timing is troubling yes 2015-01-09 16:55 pcercuei: nobody? 2015-01-09 16:55 ysionneau: nobody. As I said, quenelplus.com just like legorafi.fr are false-information websites 2015-01-09 16:55 http://www.20minutes.fr/societe/1512875-20150108-limoges-commissaire-police-suicide-police-judiciaire http://www.leparisien.fr/limousin/limoges-un-commissaire-de-police-se-suicide-avec-son-arme-08-01-2015-4429569.php 2015-01-09 16:55 ? 2015-01-09 16:55 those are not quenelplus 2015-01-09 16:56 http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/01/08/97001-20150108FILWWW00199-suicide-d-un-policier-judiciaire-a-limoges.php 2015-01-09 16:56 I've no idea. For quenelplus I clicked the first google link 2015-01-09 16:56 ok, then it's probably true :) 2015-01-09 16:56 but yes quenelplus sounds like a "gorafi" like website 2015-01-09 16:56 (which is all fake articles) 2015-01-09 16:58 sb0 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2015-01-09 16:59 here some media broadcasted about people claiming it's a fake. 2015-01-09 17:00 so, not the press opinion. Just referencing someone else :) 2015-01-09 17:00 why would somebody involved with a conspiracy commit suicide without at least publishing their reason to do so? 2015-01-09 17:01 well, these days I read a bit how Inquisition worked 2015-01-09 17:01 and threats always involved people around the target 2015-01-09 17:02 full families 2015-01-09 17:02 I don't know if it can be applied here. 2015-01-09 17:02 and nevertheless even Galileo mumbles "and though it moves" 2015-01-09 17:02 That's also theater. 2015-01-09 17:02 :) 2015-01-09 17:03 After Galileo come 300 years of Inquisition to write the fiction about Galileo and the Inquisition 2015-01-09 17:04 but you can make as if Inquisition wasn't that bad. 2015-01-09 17:04 yeah, the inquisition is a good example to follow. after all, it worked pretty well. 2015-01-09 17:05 when that policeman would have published "they threatened my family" and then commits suicide, guess about the motivation of $whomever to actually provide prove of such claim by actually hurting any of the allegedly endangered persons 2015-01-09 17:05 if it worked during centuries, it means it worked well 2015-01-09 17:05 s/prove/proof/ 2015-01-09 17:05 DocScrutinizer05 meant: "when that policeman would have published "they threatened my family" and then commits suicide, guess about the motivation of $whomever to actually provide proof of such claim by actually hurting any of the allegedly endangered persons" 2015-01-09 17:06 maybe next suiciders should contact you, how to do it well 2015-01-09 17:06 no, look at the results. how many women lie with the devil these days ? i think rosemary was the last documented example. how many wizards and witches are in your town ? see ? :) 2015-01-09 17:06 it maybe worked in pre-information age 2015-01-09 17:07 in all ages most people think they have enough information 2015-01-09 17:07 I'm a fan of Occam's razor here 2015-01-09 17:08 the occam's razor of "I don't need more information" 2015-01-09 17:08 You already took judgement before knowing anything 2015-01-09 17:08 that has been clear along all the conversation :) 2015-01-09 17:08 and defending that you already know enough. 2015-01-09 17:09 and then you come to the "current proverbial knowledge" of occam's razor :) 2015-01-09 17:09 next you are going to tell me that you are using "scientifical method" :) 2015-01-09 17:10 i see that somebody has been honing his discussion techniques ;-) 2015-01-09 17:10 haha 2015-01-09 17:11 viric: you're astarting your usual idiotic trolling like "you took judgement" and "you refuse to read info" etc 2015-01-09 17:12 I'll rest with the doubt, be happy with the certain. 2015-01-09 17:13 by now I have no need to decide one side or the other. 2015-01-09 17:13 I will not accept advice/instruction from you what to think. Since YOU have no knowledge about what I think, it's YOU who takes justice about _my_ mind without _any_ proper info 2015-01-09 17:13 I only meant to help you know what picture I was building of you :) 2015-01-09 17:13 please, kiss each other :( 2015-01-09 17:13 aka Trolling 2015-01-09 17:14 I'd trust you more if you weren't so sure :) 2015-01-09 17:15 but that's only my view. don't worry. 2015-01-09 17:15 when somebody doesn't applaud to viric's conspiracy theories, viric starts bashing them by claiming they wwere idiots 2015-01-09 17:15 corollary, since we cannot know the structure of other people's minds, we cannot be sure about the frame of reference their thoughts and expressions of them are based upon. ergo, communication is impossible and futile :) 2015-01-09 17:15 dead figments of my imagination, i think i'll stick with solipsism for a while ;) 2015-01-09 17:15 deaR even 2015-01-09 17:16 hehe 2015-01-09 17:16 well, at least writen communication indeed is very difficult and often leads to misunderstanding 2015-01-09 17:16 viric: what are your usual news sources (web sites)? preferrably those you have in offrss, in english (or russian) 2015-01-09 17:16 kyak: hm it'd take time to list 2015-01-09 17:17 viric: do you have them in offrss? 2015-01-09 17:17 but I like when people throw doubts, and others are forced to counterback the doubts 2015-01-09 17:17 kyak: not anymore, because they are very few sites that provide a useful RSS that is not a "click here to read" 2015-01-09 17:17 there are 2015-01-09 17:18 viric: basically i'm asking because i'm failing to find an "other side" in foreign media 2015-01-09 17:19 here Willy Toledo, an actor, came up saying that some filmations are fake 2015-01-09 17:19 there is one opinion, and only one 2015-01-09 17:19 viric: try reading conservative US sources 2015-01-09 17:19 then voltairenet also had an article 2015-01-09 17:19 you'll fit right in 2015-01-09 17:20 I don't understand the subtility. :) 2015-01-09 17:20 there is none 2015-01-09 17:21 then I don't understand what do yo mean 2015-01-09 17:21 you 2015-01-09 17:21 oh, sorry, that was to kyak 2015-01-09 17:21 regarding "other side" 2015-01-09 17:21 here we are: www.bfmtv.com/politique/valls-nouvelles-mesures-necessaires-pour-repondre-a-la-menace-terroriste-856485.html 2015-01-09 17:21 whitequark: yeah, i figured :) 2015-01-09 17:22 "new measures are necessary to fight terrorist threat" from 1st minister 2015-01-09 17:22 cool, new shitty laws 2015-01-09 17:22 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 17:22 "we are at war against terrorism" he said, doesn't that ring a bell? 2015-01-09 17:22 whitequark: some links would be great 2015-01-09 17:23 http://www.foxnews.com/ 2015-01-09 17:23 viric, the guy who badmouthes Aristotelian Logic a "scientific tool" 2015-01-09 17:23 ok, foxnews would be the "other side" to cnn or, say, bbc? 2015-01-09 17:24 as if science was something rogue 2015-01-09 17:24 eh? 2015-01-09 17:24 kyak: to nytimes or gawker, say 2015-01-09 17:25 ysionneau: here the right wing assholes already asked for re-establishing communication data mass storage 2015-01-09 17:26 ysionneau: and I heard LePen already suggested death penalty 2015-01-09 17:27 yes 2015-01-09 17:27 death penalty ... 2 days ago 2015-01-09 17:28 no doubt we will see a lot of shit coming from this mess 2015-01-09 17:28 and what's "fun" is that our mainstream media all said they were concerned about possible attacks against muslims (which happened) and with LePen rise in popularity (which is a right concern) 2015-01-09 17:28 BUT, I saw no concerns about "new anti freemdom laws" ... 2015-01-09 17:29 yep, exactly 2015-01-09 17:29 even though, this is very clearly a threat, like LePen rise 2015-01-09 17:29 but no one (mainstream) is talking about it ... 2015-01-09 17:29 does any country in northern africa or the middle east need "liberating" ? i'm sure suitable connections will be found before too long 2015-01-09 17:29 heck, maybe it was the north koreans again 2015-01-09 17:29 yeah let's throw some democracy somewhere 2015-01-09 17:29 :-/ 2015-01-09 17:29 so right 2015-01-09 17:30 wpwrak: it's funny, but some ukraine media already blaimed Putin :) 2015-01-09 17:30 * DocScrutinizer05 feels depressed 2015-01-09 17:30 :/ 2015-01-09 17:30 kilae has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 2015-01-09 17:30 well, idiocy is global 2015-01-09 17:30 DocScrutinizer05: you may like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTpBBs6HtCk 2015-01-09 17:31 fmeerkoetter has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-01-09 17:31 oh yeah, reeter 2015-01-09 17:31 good guy 2015-01-09 17:31 err Rether 2015-01-09 17:45 ysionneau: well, at least our (tiny) parliament opposition here in Germany warns about legislative activism 2015-01-09 17:46 ah good 2015-01-09 17:46 but yes, it almost sees zilch coverage in mass media 2015-01-09 17:46 in French media, only 1 article so far with only 1 sentence about the threat of new shitty laws : liberation 2015-01-09 17:46 the good guys ;-) 2015-01-09 17:47 and I just read one very interesting article, but in French http://paris-luttes.info/rassemblement-contre-la-2406 2015-01-09 17:47 one of the few having the "guts" to say that they don't fully backup what Charlie Hebdo did 2015-01-09 17:48 and to say that the participated in the etablishment of a shitty climate around islam 2015-01-09 17:48 even though, of course, no one say that killing anyone is the correct response 2015-01-09 17:48 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2015-01-09 17:48 they contributed to islamophobia 2015-01-09 17:50 quite possible 2015-01-09 17:50 I'd outlaw *all* religion. Period 2015-01-09 17:50 ahah 2015-01-09 17:50 alas can't be done ;-) 2015-01-09 17:50 I'm not sure I would do that :p 2015-01-09 17:50 but I'm not a fan of those stuff either 2015-01-09 17:51 but that we like it or not, it's now part of our culture :/ 2015-01-09 17:51 we need to deal with it 2015-01-09 17:51 yeah 2015-01-09 18:00 DocScrutinizer05, remmber that link myinovationspace.com ? the writings on there talked about social groups (i think they do, i forgot precisely as i'm going by my chats with the guy who wrote them and not what i remmber reading in the books but anyway) 2015-01-09 18:01 but actually religion is not the cause of all that mess, not at all. The religious mind just provides a convenient easily manipulated audience for some fascistoid asshats, labeling their crude ideas with islam, Christianity, marxism, whatsoever 2015-01-09 18:01 well.... 2015-01-09 18:01 DocScrutinizer05: in any case, I shouldn't have make any fun of the discussion. I only meant that I wasn't convinced by your analysis. Nothing more. 2015-01-09 18:01 looks like you beaten me too it 2015-01-09 18:02 I was going to say $religion is just branding, a theme for a social group 2015-01-09 18:02 pretty identical :-) 2015-01-09 18:02 ysionneau: Valls, the catalan minister... for what I remember, his sister in Barcelona was quite ashamed of him 2015-01-09 18:03 for example see me newest post http://social.aross.me 2015-01-09 18:03 for a example 2015-01-09 18:03 viric: oh really? 2015-01-09 18:03 ysionneau: and I remember when Ràdio Arrels interviewed him in Catalan, he refused to use Catalan, and spoke always in French. Once asked, he said that he couldn't speak anything but French in France, for respect to the citizens 2015-01-09 18:03 but diff $relogion 2015-01-09 18:03 good, he indeed is quite a shame for a left wing political man 2015-01-09 18:03 he's not left wing at all... 2015-01-09 18:03 ysionneau: the interview went on with catalan questions and his french answers 2015-01-09 18:04 well, for this I have no opinion 2015-01-09 18:04 ysionneau: he used catalan, but only in Catalonia, outside France. 2015-01-09 18:04 it sounds .. weird to react like that 2015-01-09 18:04 if I know how to speak English and I have an English speaking person in front of me, I think I will speak English... 2015-01-09 18:04 not to exclude the english speaking person :o 2015-01-09 18:05 It was a Catalan radio, with all public and people in the radio always speaking catalan 2015-01-09 18:05 yet in France. 2015-01-09 18:06 good that the radio is not banned at least. But they allowed it only after "la vergonha" 2015-01-09 18:06 *and english speaking person mentally acknowledges that he only speaks one language while the other person speaks more than one.... :) 2015-01-09 18:06 ;) 2015-01-09 18:06 and feels kind-a guilty 2015-01-09 18:06 yeah, I should have chosen another example 2015-01-09 18:06 this one is special 2015-01-09 18:06 I don't speak Catalan :p 2015-01-09 18:07 no it was a ok example 2015-01-09 18:07 I was just acknowledgeing my err appreation for those that speak eng as well as $native-lang 2015-01-09 18:07 appreciation 2015-01-09 18:08 well english is usually a must-have, nowadays 2015-01-09 18:08 so why was he doing this 2015-01-09 18:08 ? 2015-01-09 18:09 Valls? Dunno, he's just ... ok let's stay polite. 2015-01-09 18:09 polite? 2015-01-09 18:09 i thought you just said... 2015-01-09 18:10 France had a very strong politics against non-French 2015-01-09 18:10 by always showing the non-French as unpatriotical, unpolite, ... 2015-01-09 18:10 it started with the fight against nazis 2015-01-09 18:10 If you weren't ultra-french, you were shown as enemy of the country. 2015-01-09 18:10 hmm, need to look up catalan it seams... guilty 2015-01-09 18:11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergonha 2015-01-09 18:11 French still think about "the politeness of speaking French" 2015-01-09 18:12 are french radio stations still required to play at least 50% of songs in french language? 2015-01-09 18:13 jekhor__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 18:14 ahah 2015-01-09 18:14 at least I know there is some quota for movies on TV 2015-01-09 18:14 "cultural exception" they say 2015-01-09 18:14 primary goal being not to get invaded with USA (sub?)culture 2015-01-09 18:15 That's fine as self-protection from abroad 2015-01-09 18:15 But it's horrible when that's done against the own citizens 2015-01-09 18:15 for example, in "only French allowed in public communications" 2015-01-09 18:16 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Interdiction_officielle_de_la_langue_catalana_2_avril_1700.jpg 2015-01-09 18:17 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 18:18 without laws ruling it, radio stations tend to play the songs their audience wants to hear. Forcing them to play songs they wouldn't play otherwise is basically manipulation / patronizing of their audience, the French people 2015-01-09 18:18 DocScrutinizer05: they play the songs they are payed to play 2015-01-09 18:19 it's hard to really know what people want to hear 2015-01-09 18:19 that's very manipulated 2015-01-09 18:19 people want what they are said to want 2015-01-09 18:19 viric: at least here in Germany radio stations *pay* for each song they play 2015-01-09 18:19 There comes Sony Inc., and pays a lot to French radios to spread their things 2015-01-09 18:20 google GEMA 2015-01-09 18:20 many bands are commercial products 2015-01-09 18:20 if you show a chart with top10 songs to people, that you totally made up, then this top10 chart will quickly become the truth 2015-01-09 18:20 people will start wanting those songs 2015-01-09 18:20 DocScrutinizer05: yeah, I run into it a lot on youtube 2015-01-09 18:21 that's so annoying 2015-01-09 18:21 DocScrutinizer05: why you think there is a 50% rule? 2015-01-09 18:22 French music is shitty compared to USA music? 2015-01-09 18:22 and the law goes against good taste? 2015-01-09 18:22 or USA music is also shitty, and French would prefer music in many tongues? 2015-01-09 18:23 Or maybe they would enjoy mainly Czech music. 2015-01-09 18:23 I agree more with ysionneau view 2015-01-09 18:28 i find a lot of music i like on jamendo.com is by french artists 2015-01-09 18:29 a lot or a good portion of the music i like.... 2015-01-09 18:30 arossdotme: are them on the radio stations? 2015-01-09 18:30 err no 2015-01-09 18:30 i don't bother with radio 2015-01-09 18:31 internet radio, maybe 2015-01-09 18:31 libre.fm if that counts 2015-01-09 18:36 FAMAS has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 18:36 FAMAS has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2015-01-09 18:42 rejon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2015-01-09 18:43 viric: I think there's such 50%(?) rule because a 10 dozen news reported about it, several years or even decades ago. For the rest of your weird speculations, please check your own communication methods and statements instead of bashing others for allegedly "taking judgement" 2015-01-09 18:45 and this reference to 50% rule is not a "view", just for a sidenote 2015-01-09 18:46 it's jsut that: a reference to a well known proven fact, though maybe obsolete 2015-01-09 18:46 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2015-01-09 18:48 arossdotme has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-01-09 19:01 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 19:02 arossdotme has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 19:04 FAMAS has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 19:08 FAMAS has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2015-01-09 19:09 FAMAS has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 19:57 DocScrutinizer05: Sorry, I meant why you think that the government set such a rule 2015-01-09 20:03 I don't know 2015-01-09 20:04 but i'm quite sure I despise it 2015-01-09 20:05 I can't think of a reason that would justify such rule. IOW no matter what's the problem, there's for sure a better solution than such rule 2015-01-09 20:07 a suggestion for wording: "what do you think why government set such rule?" 2015-01-09 20:19 fmeerkoetter has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 20:33 fmeerkoetter has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-01-09 20:41 jwhitmore has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 20:48 hm may be. I'm not very good at English :) 2015-01-09 20:54 fmeerkoetter has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 21:05 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/11334934/Vladimir-Putin-bans-transsexuals-from-driving.html .... 2015-01-09 21:05 w.t.f. 2015-01-09 21:18 +1 wtf 2015-01-09 21:31 newcup has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 21:31 oooh figure the confusion and thus risk those individuals introduce to traffic ;-) 2015-01-09 21:32 I checked and indeed WHO is putting transsexual and travesti as behavioural disorder 2015-01-09 21:34 that's what mindless rule-centric bureaucracy does for you :) that could so happen in .de as well ;-) 2015-01-09 21:35 and i wonder if it's an outright "ban" or just additional requirements. e.g., a doctor's certificate or such. 2015-01-09 21:36 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 21:40 jekhor__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2015-01-09 21:41 jekhor__ has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 21:44 fmeerkoetter has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-01-09 22:29 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2015-01-09 22:45 fmeerkoetter has joined #qi-hardware 2015-01-09 22:50 fmeerkoetter has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-01-09 22:54 pcercuei has quit [Quit: dodo] 2015-01-09 23:02 rejon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2015-01-09 23:14 wpwrak: indeed, exactly 2015-01-09 23:14 jekhor__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2015-01-09 23:15 you can even spend a 8 years in psychiatry here, when you say your bank does illegal stuff and the bank says "No, this guy must be paranoid". Even when the bank later on says "duh, there actually happened illegal stuff" you stay in psychiatry 2015-01-09 23:16 just because you're already there, a Doctor can't fal when diagnosing mental disorder ;-) 2015-01-09 23:17 fail* 2015-01-09 23:41 catch 22 :) 2015-01-09 23:59 nah, catch 22 was exactly the opposite, no? 2015-01-09 23:59 arossdotme has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]