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2014-12-16 06:55 <sb0> so the taobao vacuum stuff has arrived and looks good, except the $20 turbopump that really looked too good to be true
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2014-12-16 07:33 <whitequark> $20 turbopump!?
2014-12-16 07:33 <whitequark> sb0: which one?
2014-12-16 07:34 <sb0> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.9.77.05PAax&id=40571989007&_u=g26gvtjq97dd
2014-12-16 07:34 <sb0> not clear, though, if the seller expects a price offer
2014-12-16 07:35 <whitequark> oh
2014-12-16 07:35 <sb0> my Chinese sucks as much as you imagine, so I just tried to place the order, but the seller didn't ship
2014-12-16 07:35 <whitequark> probably, yes
2014-12-16 07:36 <whitequark> there are quite a few pumps at 100 CNY there
2014-12-16 07:36 <sb0> yes, and there are others at interesting prices. not 100 CNY, but still interesting.
2014-12-16 07:37 <whitequark> hehe
2014-12-16 07:37 <whitequark> probably not includes shipping
2014-12-16 07:37 <whitequark> btw, any idea where could one find venting valves?
2014-12-16 07:37 <whitequark> a ebay seller did not screw off the one at the pump I got, and it got totalled by the post
2014-12-16 07:38 <sb0> some are stocked in taiwan or near shenzhen, shouldn't be too expensive to ship to hk
2014-12-16 07:38 <whitequark> $700 new retail price?!
2014-12-16 07:38 <whitequark> for a fucking electromagnet?!
2014-12-16 07:38 <sb0> hehe, yeah, welcome to the western vacuum world
2014-12-16 07:38 <sb0> suppliers are happy to get fat margins
2014-12-16 07:38 <sb0> professors have an excuse to ask for fat grants
2014-12-16 07:38 <whitequark> I need to find some plant being decommissioned
2014-12-16 07:39 <sb0> universities are happy taking a nice margin from the fat grant
2014-12-16 07:39 <sb0> everyone loves it, right?
2014-12-16 07:39 * whitequark sighs
2014-12-16 07:39 <whitequark> btw, this pump had a metal "jacket" when it arrived
2014-12-16 07:40 <whitequark> out of something really soft, possibly lead, though I don't remember lead being *this* soft
2014-12-16 07:40 <whitequark> why?
2014-12-16 07:40 <sb0> I got my venting valve from Alek, who dumpster-dived it I guess
2014-12-16 07:40 <sb0> and I dumpster-dived some more from an institute in Berlin
2014-12-16 07:40 <whitequark> hmmm
2014-12-16 07:40 <whitequark> I have a manual one, but it's kind of a PITA
2014-12-16 07:40 <DocScrutinizer05> you wouldn't believe how sleep-preventing a >>Nurnberg, Germany	 12/16/2014	 1:04 A.M.	Out For Delivery<< can act
2014-12-16 07:41 <whitequark> yes. yes I would
2014-12-16 07:41 <DocScrutinizer05> particularly with the knowledge about the 1054z content
2014-12-16 07:42 * DocScrutinizer05 shakes the fist with 5 bucks in coins for the poor UPS slave
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2014-12-16 11:42 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: so i wasn't so wrong about your sleeping arrangements ;-)
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2014-12-16 13:59 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: how is santa claus' progress towards your cave ? :)
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2014-12-16 14:29 <DocScrutinizer05> poor :-/
2014-12-16 14:29 <DocScrutinizer05> I just carspotted DHL 30min ago. No UPS yet
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2014-12-16 14:48 <whitequark> seven hours, you for sure are patient
2014-12-16 14:49 <whitequark> ... or have too much free time ;
2014-12-16 14:49 <whitequark> *;p
2014-12-16 14:49 <wpwrak> let's hope they didn't try the wrong address and it's already on its way back to the depot
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2014-12-16 16:58 <wpwrak> hmm DocScrutinizer05's silence must mean that ...
2014-12-16 16:58 <wpwrak> 1) he's outside, nervously pacing up and down the street, checking the time every two seconds,
2014-12-16 16:58 <wpwrak> 2) he fell asleep, less than a minute before the UPS man rang the doorbell,
2014-12-16 16:59 <wpwrak> 3) he's now sitting with a wide grin in front of his new rigol, pressing buttons, looking at the blinkenlights, and echoing the beeps :)
2014-12-16 17:00 <whitequark> the courier usually arrives when I *am* asleep, during the day
2014-12-16 17:00 <whitequark> I now can open the door and sign off the package without actually waking up
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2014-12-16 18:16 <wpwrak> ;-))
2014-12-16 18:29 <larsc> The postman figured out that I'm on vacation and drops off all the packages for the whole appartment complex at my place...
2014-12-16 18:34 <wpwrak> nice. lars goes postal ;-)
2014-12-16 18:35 <whitequark> haha, so, I just discovered that that $700 valve?
2014-12-16 18:35 <whitequark> you can buy it for about $12 retail, exact same thing
2014-12-16 18:36 <whitequark> well, almost, has female thread rather than male
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