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2014-10-25 02:26 <Amorah> anyone alive?
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2014-10-25 02:57 <wpwrak> naw, our self-destruct mechanisms are error-free :)
2014-10-25 05:33 <arhuaco_> Alive but going to sleep.
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2014-10-25 09:16 <eintopf> https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-yoda?mode=guest_open
2014-10-25 09:16 <eintopf> mhhh
2014-10-25 09:17 <eintopf> the yoda keyboard
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2014-10-25 10:02 <wpwrak> thought of the day: among zombies, "anyone alive" is probably an insult
2014-10-25 10:03 <wpwrak> (yoda kbd) the hhkb is strong in that one :)
2014-10-25 10:04 <wpwrak> the three mouse buttons seem a bit large, though
2014-10-25 10:08 <eintopf> I want a better keyboard, but for 229.99 $? I would better buy 5 of http://www.cherry.de/PDF/DE_G80-3000.pdf
2014-10-25 10:08 <eintopf> but I need black edition in US layout
2014-10-25 10:08 <eintopf> and with euro symbol :)
2014-10-25 10:10 <eintopf> G80-3000LSCEU-2
2014-10-25 10:27 <wpwrak> you could get a HHKB Lite. that's only some USD 70. all of the HHKB are great and well worth the money, even if some of them seems very expensive.
2014-10-25 10:28 <wpwrak> (i have one of the original ones, with PS/2, a pro, and i had - and lost - a lite)
2014-10-25 10:33 <DocScrutinizer05> yoda kbd. UGH! USD229 for a crappy kbd with an annoying nipple that I usually immediately remove from all my thinkpads and "plug" it into the (otherwise useless) modem RJ11 receptacle
2014-10-25 10:37 <wpwrak> the nipple - the most intuitive user interface ever ;-)
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2014-10-25 11:54 <eintopf> the nipple is better than a touchpad
2014-10-25 11:55 <eintopf> correct word is trackpoint
2014-10-25 11:56 <eintopf> nipples... oh yea sometimes you need to know how you can deal with real nipples.
2014-10-25 11:56 <eintopf> :-P
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2014-10-25 12:50 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd trade in a trackpoint for a trackball any time. And a touchpad is usually even more convenient than a trackball, when it's a good touchpad, not too small
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2014-10-25 12:52 <whitequark> sigh
2014-10-25 12:52 <whitequark> I'm trying to switch to kicad
2014-10-25 12:52 <whitequark> immediately after creating a new project, it errors out
2014-10-25 12:52 <whitequark> when attempting to save said project, it just segfaults
2014-10-25 12:52 <whitequark> A+ engineering right here
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2014-10-25 13:17 <wpwrak> whitequark: with kicad, you need to work a bit on the workflow. the way kicad proposes to do things often doesn't work too well
2014-10-25 13:17 <wpwrak> e.g., i have a makefile that invokes eeschema and pcbnew directly with the respective project
2014-10-25 13:17 <wpwrak> and then i don
2014-10-25 13:18 <wpwrak> 't manage symbol and footprint libraries through the gui but by just adding them to the project file. much more convenient.
2014-10-25 13:19 <wpwrak> and of course i don't use the footprint editor at all but do them with fped
2014-10-25 13:19 <wpwrak> the editor for schematics symbols is okay, though. nothing extraordinary but sufficient.
2014-10-25 13:21 <wpwrak> it's useful to "enhance" them for visualization, though. like in http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/tmp/kicad-libs-components.pdf
2014-10-25 13:21 <wpwrak> there, i also add the pin type, so one can see what has been set there, without having to explore it interactively
2014-10-25 13:22 <wpwrak> the script for it is in the kicad-libs project (and you may want to use that project for components anyway)
2014-10-25 13:24 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: i think trackballs are died of the y2k bug :) and i hate those fumblepads. what i prefer is a trackpoint as emergency solution while on the go and a small mouse for use when i have a table
2014-10-25 13:25 <whitequark> just don't use shitty touchpads. make sure it's a new-ish (like post 2011) synaptics
2014-10-25 13:25 <whitequark> maybe post 2009
2014-10-25 13:26 <wpwrak> but i know there are people who love fumblepads and the industry is pretty much forcing them down our collective throats anyway ...
2014-10-25 13:29 <eintopf> never heard "fumblepads"
2014-10-25 13:30 <eintopf> google will correct me to "rumblepad" and that's normally the gamepad extension for vibration. I think the original word cames from N64 and the "rumblepack"
2014-10-25 13:30 <eintopf> ah rumble - some vibration and pad for pad
2014-10-25 13:38 <DocScrutinizer05> no, fumble like... fumbling
2014-10-25 13:41 <wpwrak> (fumblepads) i just made it up ;-)
2014-10-25 13:46 <DocScrutinizer05> pettingpet
2014-10-25 14:07 <eintopf> http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/23/power-mac-g5-furniture/
2014-10-25 14:28 <wpwrak> nice ;-) and also the picture in the comments
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2014-10-25 17:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanadd #qi-hardware
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2014-10-25 17:31 <infobot> Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer05)
2014-10-25 17:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanadd #qi-hardware
2014-10-25 17:31 <infobot> Joining #qi-hardware...
2014-10-25 17:32 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanset #qi-hardware sed 0
2014-10-25 17:32 <infobot> Setting sed for #qi-hardware to '0'.
2014-10-25 17:32 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanset #qi-hardware log 0
2014-10-25 17:32 <infobot> Setting log for #qi-hardware to '0'.
2014-10-25 17:32 <DocScrutinizer05> ~save
2014-10-25 17:32 <infobot> saved user and chan files
2014-10-25 17:33 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+chaninfo #qi-hardware
2014-10-25 17:33 <infobot> On #qi-hardware, there have been 1 Deop, 1 Join and 3 PublicMsgs.  At the moment, 1 Voice, 2 Opped and 50 Total.  repo has said the most with a total of 396 messages.
2014-10-25 17:34 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanset #qi-hardware
2014-10-25 17:34 <infobot> chan: #qi-hardware (see _default also)
2014-10-25 17:34 <infobot>  _time_added => 1414258294, autojoin => infobot, log => 0, sed => 0
2014-10-25 17:34 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys #qi-hardware
2014-10-25 17:34 <infobot> Factoid search of '#qi-hardware' by key (4): #qi-hardware bill gates ;; #qi-hardware milkymist ;; #qi-hardware infobot ;; #qi-hardware flashing.
2014-10-25 17:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanset #qi-hardware factoidSearch $channel _default
2014-10-25 17:35 <infobot> Setting factoidSearch for #qi-hardware to '$channel _default'.
2014-10-25 17:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ~milkymist
2014-10-25 17:35 <infobot> methinks milkymist is /join #qi-hardware
2014-10-25 17:36 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal milkymist
2014-10-25 17:36 <infobot> "milkymist" is "/join #qi-hardware"
2014-10-25 17:36 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal #qi-hardware milkymist
2014-10-25 17:36 <infobot> "#qi-hardware milkymist" is "a mystery"
2014-10-25 17:37 <DocScrutinizer05> ~chanset #qi-hardware factoidSearch $chan _default
2014-10-25 17:37 <infobot> Setting factoidSearch for #qi-hardware to '$chan _default'; was '$channel _default'.
2014-10-25 17:37 <DocScrutinizer05> ~milkymist
2014-10-25 17:37 <infobot> well, milkymist is a mystery
2014-10-25 17:37 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry for the noise. Just thought I better do it in the open
2014-10-25 17:38 <DocScrutinizer05> bot shouldn't log, shouldn't react on s/x/y/, and generally behave
2014-10-25 17:39 <DocScrutinizer05> if any complaints, please holler
2014-10-25 17:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ~save
2014-10-25 17:39 <infobot> saved user and chan files
2014-10-25 17:40 <DocScrutinizer05> attention char is "~", nick is infobot
2014-10-25 17:41 <DocScrutinizer05> ~infobot
2014-10-25 17:41 <infobot> I'm your very local infobot, and this is a facoid only valid in this chan
2014-10-25 17:45 <DocScrutinizer05> whitequark: please make _whitelogger register at nickserv!
2014-10-25 17:46 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: what for?
2014-10-25 17:46 <DocScrutinizer05> to handle it accordingly
2014-10-25 17:46 <whitequark> huh?
2014-10-25 17:46 <DocScrutinizer05> I cannot add it to access lists when it's anonymous
2014-10-25 17:47 <whitequark> does it need to be in an access list?
2014-10-25 17:47 <DocScrutinizer05> should, for documenting it's a legit bot
2014-10-25 17:47 <whitequark> I'll have to take it down...
2014-10-25 17:48 <DocScrutinizer05> why?
2014-10-25 17:48 <whitequark> to login under it
2014-10-25 17:48 <DocScrutinizer05> sure, for 30s ;)
2014-10-25 17:48 <whitequark> it boots for five minutes
2014-10-25 17:48 <whitequark> freenode kicks it unless the outgoing message rate is limited to 1/2 msg per second
2014-10-25 17:48 <DocScrutinizer05> no hurries
2014-10-25 17:49 <whitequark> and it currently handles ... 38 channels
2014-10-25 17:49 <DocScrutinizer05> wow
2014-10-25 17:49 <DocScrutinizer05> could it eventually handle 39 too?
2014-10-25 17:49 <whitequark> sure, I'll expect it to scale up to hundreds at least
2014-10-25 17:50 <whitequark> maybe later, I also need to add support for re-reading configuration from disk to it anyway
2014-10-25 17:50 <ChanServ> DocScrutinizer05 (jOERG_rw) set flags +V on _whitelogger!whitelogge@fehu.whitequark.org.
2014-10-25 17:51 <DocScrutinizer05> added full hostmask for now. that's not spoofing-safe though
2014-10-25 17:52 <whitequark> not broken-connection-safe too (it will reconnect as _whitelogger_____
2014-10-25 17:52 <DocScrutinizer05> see, that's why I'd ask you make it authenticate at nickserv ;-)
2014-10-25 17:52 <whitequark> well yes, it makes sense
2014-10-25 17:52 <whitequark> it's just the boot is friggin slow
2014-10-25 17:52 <DocScrutinizer05> could you please add #neo900 to logged channels?
2014-10-25 17:53 <whitequark> ... and I'll have to reboot it afterwards
2014-10-25 17:53 <whitequark> so you win
2014-10-25 17:53 <whitequark> could as well register it
2014-10-25 17:53 <whitequark> sure, wait a sec, I'll finish other stuff
2014-10-25 17:53 <DocScrutinizer05> infobots logs suck
2014-10-25 17:53 <whitequark> duh
2014-10-25 17:54 <whitequark> do you know about irclogger's textmode? http://irclog.whitequark.org/jruby/2014-10-25.txt
2014-10-25 17:54 <DocScrutinizer05> nope
2014-10-25 17:54 <whitequark> plaintext logs
2014-10-25 17:54 <whitequark> and by popular request I also support downloading plaintext archives for entire history using lftp -c 'mirror http://irclog.whitequark.org/$CHANNEL/index/'
2014-10-25 17:54 <DocScrutinizer05> well, that's about what you get from infobot . once a day :-/
2014-10-25 17:54 <whitequark> for backups and such
2014-10-25 17:55 <DocScrutinizer05> ftp is cool feature
2014-10-25 17:55 <whitequark> lftp
2014-10-25 17:55 <DocScrutinizer05> thanks a megaton
2014-10-25 17:55 <whitequark> different program
2014-10-25 17:55 <whitequark> it's not actually ftp, I don't know why it has ftp in the name
2014-10-25 17:55 <whitequark> it's like recursive wget
2014-10-25 17:56 <DocScrutinizer05> btw infobot also takes like 10 minutes to log in to its 120some channels
2014-10-25 17:57 <DocScrutinizer05> plus it sucks on netsplits, never notices that it got dropped on some channels, or even some personalities (ibot, apt)
2014-10-25 17:57 <DocScrutinizer05> (purl)
2014-10-25 17:58 <whitequark> oh, huh
2014-10-25 17:58 <whitequark> I'm using some Ruby library (cinch), it smoothes over so many IRC warts
2014-10-25 17:58 <whitequark> and is very stable too, it can run for months without really any intervention
2014-10-25 17:59 <DocScrutinizer05> ibot is plain perl iirc
2014-10-25 17:59 <whitequark> it's more about the libraries
2014-10-25 17:59 <whitequark> whatever Ruby library I used before sucked, the bot had to be restarted at least daily
2014-10-25 17:59 <DocScrutinizer05> that sucks
2014-10-25 18:00 <DocScrutinizer05> gotta run. please ping me when you're ready with tweaks
2014-10-25 18:33 <wpwrak> (downloading) for statistics ! :)
2014-10-25 18:46 <eintopf> grml, i am ill
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