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2014-08-07 09:25 <whitequark> http://www.parallax.com/microcontrollers/propeller-1-open-source
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2014-08-07 11:52 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer51: and I thought you were being pessimistic...
2014-08-07 11:53 <DocScrutinizer51> huh?
2014-08-07 11:54 <DocScrutinizer51> I *am*, alas usually I'm nevertheless right
2014-08-07 11:54 <whitequark> e.g. http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/06/world/europe/russia-ukraine-crisis/
2014-08-07 11:55 <DocScrutinizer51> could u tell in lt 20 words what it's about? romaing and not going to check URLs
2014-08-07 11:55 <whitequark> ban on food imports from USA, EU, etc
2014-08-07 11:56 <DocScrutinizer51> that been obvious
2014-08-07 11:56 <DocScrutinizer51> I expect putin to come up with more shit
2014-08-07 11:58 <DocScrutinizer51> the shit not even reached level of fan yet
2014-08-07 12:02 <DocScrutinizer51> time to pack your suitcase soonish
2014-08-07 12:02 <whitequark> indeed
2014-08-07 12:02 <whitequark> it's unfolding far quicker than I thought
2014-08-07 12:05 <sb0> where are you going?
2014-08-07 12:07 <DocScrutinizer51> I'm here right now http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20140807_002.jpg but this place has no jobs and frekkin poor internet
2014-08-07 12:07 <whitequark> sb0: me?
2014-08-07 12:07 <sb0> yes
2014-08-07 12:08 <whitequark> I've a few offers, most promising are in FR and UK
2014-08-07 12:08 <whitequark> UK is a bitch with visas, so that may sadly fall through...
2014-08-07 12:08 <ysionneau> which company in FR?
2014-08-07 12:09 <whitequark> University Paris Diderot
2014-08-07 12:09 <ysionneau> ah :)
2014-08-07 12:09 <DocScrutinizer51> hah!
2014-08-07 12:09 <ysionneau> I guess we will be able to meet then
2014-08-07 12:09 <whitequark> ysionneau: I'll be in FR in late Aug
2014-08-07 12:09 * ysionneau lives in Paris
2014-08-07 12:10 <whitequark> visiting Electrolab
2014-08-07 12:10 <ysionneau> ah cool
2014-08-07 12:10 <ysionneau> I must visit it too
2014-08-07 12:10 <DocScrutinizer51> mm? sth everybody must visit?
2014-08-07 12:11 <whitequark> it's a huge hackerspace and I've met with some of the folks at EHSM
2014-08-07 12:11 <whitequark> specifically someone who is interested in DIY electroplated and 4-layer PCBs :p
2014-08-07 12:12 <ysionneau> for now the site is under construction (and sometimes flooded)
2014-08-07 12:12 <DocScrutinizer51> well, might be possible for me to drop by
2014-08-07 12:12 <ysionneau> but it is very promising, the area is very big and they have tons of crazy machines
2014-08-07 12:12 <sb0> mmm visas
2014-08-07 12:13 <sb0> the hong kong immigration tower is a bar of pure shit
2014-08-07 12:13 <whitequark> yep, I suppose I could visit more often with an UK visa
2014-08-07 12:13 <whitequark> sb0: I actually have an option to work in HK (apart from UK) if I accept one of the offers
2014-08-07 12:13 <whitequark> is that worth it?
2014-08-07 12:14 <DocScrutinizer51> usually not
2014-08-07 12:15 <whitequark> "usually"?
2014-08-07 12:15 <DocScrutinizer51> usually they pay everybody like chinese
2014-08-07 12:15 <whitequark> no, that will not be the case
2014-08-07 12:16 <sb0> well, we could hack on cool stuff then ;)
2014-08-07 12:16 <DocScrutinizer51> and HK is a SHIT place to live
2014-08-07 12:16 <sb0> DocScrutinizer05, why?
2014-08-07 12:16 <whitequark> yes, interested in it too
2014-08-07 12:17 <DocScrutinizer51> I heard you pay a fortune for a locker to sleep in
2014-08-07 12:17 <DocScrutinizer51> literally
2014-08-07 12:18 <sb0> yeah, rents in the center are expensive... but it seems whitequark has a well paid job offer.
2014-08-07 12:18 <DocScrutinizer51> in HK there is one thing the DO NOT HAVE: space
2014-08-07 12:18 <sb0> space in HK is still much cheaper than in fucking SF, though
2014-08-07 12:18 <DocScrutinizer51> really?
2014-08-07 12:18 <sb0> oh yes
2014-08-07 12:19 <whitequark> wow, I heard SF was crazy expensive
2014-08-07 12:19 <whitequark> but this much?!
2014-08-07 12:19 <DocScrutinizer51> maybe I mix it up with some other of those boom towns
2014-08-07 12:20 <DocScrutinizer51> where do you sleep in a room of 2m*1m*0.8m?
2014-08-07 12:20 <DocScrutinizer51> and pay $$$$ for that
2014-08-07 12:20 <DocScrutinizer51> per month
2014-08-07 12:22 <sb0> I have a 55m2 flat, about 1500€/month
2014-08-07 12:22 <sb0> so yeah, it's expensive
2014-08-07 12:23 <whitequark> whoa, okay, no HK
2014-08-07 12:23 <DocScrutinizer51> no, that's pretty cheap
2014-08-07 12:24 <DocScrutinizer51> I heard reports where you pay twice as much for 2m^3
2014-08-07 12:24 <DocScrutinizer51> (sic)
2014-08-07 12:25 <sb0> nah, it's not *that* bad. not even SF...
2014-08-07 12:25 <DocScrutinizer51> but maybe thet been some other town
2014-08-07 12:26 <sb0> other things in HK like food, transport and electronics are surprisingly cheap
2014-08-07 12:26 <DocScrutinizer51> shanghai, singapore, dunno
2014-08-07 12:26 <DocScrutinizer51> :nod:
2014-08-07 12:27 <DocScrutinizer51> is it HK where they build a 2nd floor all over whole town now?
2014-08-07 12:28 <DocScrutinizer51> or shanghai?
2014-08-07 12:28 <sb0> whitequark, try bothering your prospective employer accordingly about your salary ;)
2014-08-07 12:28 <sb0> most buildings in HK are over 15 stories high. people consider it a waste of land otherwise.
2014-08-07 12:28 <DocScrutinizer51> sure
2014-08-07 12:29 <whitequark> sb0: well, given same salary, I would rather live in a cheaper place
2014-08-07 12:29 <whitequark> :p
2014-08-07 12:29 <DocScrutinizer51> but in some town they simply build a 2nd flor *over all that* now
2014-08-07 12:29 <whitequark> also I suspect flights in/out of HK are a pain
2014-08-07 12:29 <sb0> DocScrutinizer05, there was the kowloon walled city... but they demolished iot
2014-08-07 12:29 <sb0> *it
2014-08-07 12:30 <sb0> whitequark, from EU/US, yeah, they hurt
2014-08-07 12:30 <sb0> but there are a ton of them
2014-08-07 12:30 <sb0> there are lots of short-haul flight to all over Asia, too
2014-08-07 12:30 <DocScrutinizer51> some1square km size
2014-08-07 12:32 <DocScrutinizer51> you never heard of that flying city?
2014-08-07 12:32 <DocScrutinizer51> mad batshit but they really wanna do it
2014-08-07 12:33 <DocScrutinizer51> sorry internet too shitty here to google that stuff
2014-08-07 12:34 <DocScrutinizer51> it's prolly the most crazy huge constreuction project ever
2014-08-07 12:35 <DocScrutinizer51> even the planned 1000m tower gets dwarfed by that madness
2014-08-07 12:47 <DocScrutinizer51> damn, either my N900 overheated or it starts acting 'funny'
2014-08-07 12:50 <DocScrutinizer51> prolly simple overheating
2014-08-07 12:50 <DocScrutinizer51> it shut down out of nowhere
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2014-08-07 15:23 <paul_boddie> Quiet channel recently?
2014-08-07 15:25 <mth> not really, there was quite some discussion only three hours ago
2014-08-07 15:28 <paul_boddie> Maybe the qi-hardware.com IRC archives have stopped.
2014-08-07 15:38 <mth> the projects server was replaced, maybe something got lost in the migration
2014-08-07 15:38 <wolfspraul> yeah, let's check
2014-08-07 15:38 <mth> whitequark's logs are up-to-date, in any case
2014-08-07 15:38 <wolfspraul> I saw qi-bot in the channel, I thought that means the archives work but I didn't verify that
2014-08-07 15:38 <paul_boddie> Nice to see you back, wolfspraul!
2014-08-07 15:56 <DocScrutinizer51> whitequark chanlog works though
2014-08-07 15:57 <paul_boddie> Ah, they're back on qi-hardware.com now.
2014-08-07 16:02 <wolfspraul> was a problem with a cronjob, let's see whether it's fixed now. thanks for reporting!
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2014-08-07 16:42 <kyak> wolfspraul: it's really great so see you being more active than usual :)
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