2014-06-22 00:01 <wpwrak> have a copy of a known to be good config file and just edit it ? :)
2014-06-22 00:06 <whitequark> editing config files. yeah, that's my idea of "convenience"
2014-06-22 00:06 <whitequark> as opposed to "press a single button", like on every single other fucking OS around
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2014-06-22 00:22 <wpwrak> press a button, something happens (or not), then spend an hour trying to figure out how the thing is supposed to work behind the scenes, and fix the problem :)
2014-06-22 00:24 <whitequark> literally never happened
2014-06-22 00:43 <wpwrak> i had NM do weird things. besides, on almost all of my machines, there's one and only one valid network configuration. a configuration for which i already have all the shell commands. so NM can only make things worse.
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2014-06-22 01:28 <dos1> it took me a bit of work to make NM behave properly
2014-06-22 01:28 <dos1> for quite a long time I kept it uninstalled, until it started to work somewhat reasonably
2014-06-22 01:31 <dos1> maybe my usecase of connecting a lot of various devices with g_ether with different configurations, and modems that I don't want NM to handle for me, is not a very common one
2014-06-22 01:32 <dos1> good that they finally started to go the less sucking path ;)
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2014-06-22 04:25 <DocScrutinizer05> dos1: did you manage to keep NM from starting to go apeshit when you connect any such g_ether etc, particularly N900 and other usb modems?
2014-06-22 04:27 <DocScrutinizer05> I always found it particularly annoying and cumbersome to keep NM from disconecting from my normal wired ethernet as soon as I try to e.g. connect an USB gadget and establish a segregated IP subnet to e.g. run a ssh session over it
2014-06-22 04:28 <DocScrutinizer05> cheesy NM always detects a new NIC and nukes my route and default gateway etc
2014-06-22 04:30 <whitequark> oh I see what you mean.
2014-06-22 04:30 <whitequark> for that I forbid NM to touch the g_ether ifaces.
2014-06-22 04:30 <whitequark> so I guess it did happen (re wpwrak)
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2014-06-22 15:08 <DocScrutinizer05> awesome: http://zao.jp/radio/soft66lc/soft66lc4_schematics.png
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2014-06-22 16:06 <DocScrutinizer05> dang! just had to do `jr@saturn:~> sudo bin/revoco-05 auto=8` for my last working fresh virgin MX Revolution mouse.
2014-06-22 16:07 <DocScrutinizer05> well, now I have two MX-revo mice with broken LMB switch. More resonable to do fix on both of them same time. Less overhead ;-)
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