2014-06-10 00:00 <DocScrutinizer05> he knew what will happen, he took some nice lecture with him, to not get bored by the process which been a stage play with a known script
2014-06-10 00:00 <wpwrak> naw, first he was read the accusations, then he had to make his declaration. not sure if he could delegate the talking.
2014-06-10 00:00 <DocScrutinizer05> *shrug*
2014-06-10 00:00 <DocScrutinizer05> I bet he trained it once, a week before
2014-06-10 00:01 <wpwrak> probably :)
2014-06-10 00:01 <DocScrutinizer05> then he decided which porn mag to take with him for the process
2014-06-10 00:02 <DocScrutinizer05> really the _only_ way to stress such sucker would be when he was confronted all of a sudden with something completely unexpected
2014-06-10 00:03 <wpwrak> well, there will be a few more such hearing this week. (of other people involved) in total it's five, all the way to friday. let's see if one of them cracks.
2014-06-10 00:03 <DocScrutinizer05> different judge, completely new accusation text he had never seen/heard before... such things
2014-06-10 00:04 <wpwrak> hmm, i think i have something for you ... different bastard but indeed a surprising reaction ... lemme look it up ...
2014-06-10 00:06 <wpwrak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkHGLkCYnMY
2014-06-10 00:07 <wpwrak> a visiting greek journalist interviewed the minister of economy. she asked him about the inflation numbers. he responded by which entity produces them and that they are the only possible numbers.
2014-06-10 00:08 <wpwrak> then she asked that there were certain accusations. he then asked for a break. off-screen (but with the microphone still on), he said that he doesn't want to talk about inflation since this is very difficult in argentina, and "i want to leave"
2014-06-10 00:12 <wpwrak> since then he was known as "i want to leave". it took almost a year until his wish was granted, though. some nice picture: diariohoy.net/politica/inutiles-lorenzino-y-un-papelon-sin-precedentes-9842
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2014-06-10 01:22 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: when you want to make money from selling hw: http://schiit.com/products/bifrost
2014-06-10 01:23 <DocScrutinizer05> this thing has a realy good margin from R&D + production cost to sales price
2014-06-10 01:24 <DocScrutinizer05> and the circuit isn't really rocket science
2014-06-10 01:24 <whitequark> selling anything to "audiophiles" is massively profitable, duh
2014-06-10 01:24 <whitequark> 1) take regular chinese audio cables 2) rebrand 3) PROFIT
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2014-06-10 01:45 <whitequark> how do you call the long plastic things which are used to e.g. grip together several cables?
2014-06-10 01:46 <whitequark> the plastic thing has dents along its length, and on one end there's a ratchet or a latch
2014-06-10 01:46 <whitequark> so you put it through itself, pull and it tightens
2014-06-10 01:46 * DocScrutinizer05 ponders special audiophile option of Neo900: use extreme quality capacitors wherever needed, have additional shielding (can), filtering for DC supply. Accessories
2014-06-10 01:47 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: and 10x the cost. I say this is a great idea (no sarcasm)
2014-06-10 01:51 <whitequark> http://www.mos-plast.ru/files/xomut.jpg ← this thing
2014-06-10 01:52 <whitequark> "cable tie"
2014-06-10 02:02 <DocScrutinizer05> eliminate the RF components in AV path that are there to enable using of headset cable as a antenna for FMRX. Those beads may have negative effects on audio
2014-06-10 02:03 <DocScrutinizer05> particularly the one on GND path
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2014-06-10 02:13 <DocScrutinizer05> kick out the AHJ/OMTP mux, it might have impact on audio quality
2014-06-10 02:33 <whitequark> hm, I've actually unscrewed the rusty screws in my CNC mill using a hex nut and some slight force
2014-06-10 02:33 <whitequark> the thread is actually just fine, it's the head that rusts. still, I wonder what to do now... not sure where to get same screws but out of stainless steel
2014-06-10 02:33 <whitequark> they have M4x10 thread and d=6mm l=4mm cylindrical hex head for a 3mm key
2014-06-10 02:35 <whitequark> oh, nevermind, of course it is amazon
2014-06-10 02:35 <whitequark> http://www.amazon.com/12Pcs-Stainless-Steel-Socket-M3X0-5X10MM/dp/B00J7HWNL6
2014-06-10 05:12 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: doesn't look all *that* simple. three boards, a nice metal case, unless the volume is large, there may not be all that much margin in it
2014-06-10 05:12 <wpwrak> whitequark: (china rebrand) i think you're on a better track there :)
2014-06-10 05:13 <whitequark> wpwrak: do you even *have* a sleeping schedule?
2014-06-10 05:13 <whitequark> based on what I remember, you're just active at completely random intervals around the clock
2014-06-10 05:14 <whitequark> do you sleep *at all*? :D
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2014-06-10 05:17 <wpwrak> no schedule. but i do sleep :)
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2014-06-10 05:23 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: (audiophile version) i think you're still missing the point :) it's not about working harder but it's about marketing it better. so make a truly trivial change, like replacing a connector with nickel-plated contacts with one with gold-plated ones, at a BOM cost increase of five US-cents, then have some audio connoisseur (pick some celebrity, maybe, since you mentioned him recently, udo lindenberg if he's still alive)
2014-06-10 05:23 <wpwrak>  voice some approval. then $ell :)
2014-06-10 05:25 <DocScrutinizer05> that's not how I work, however
2014-06-10 05:25 <wpwrak> whitequark: (cable tie) nowadays also "handcuff" ;-)
2014-06-10 05:26 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: ah, too honest for this world ...
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2014-06-10 05:31 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm offering true added value for those who want this special version and are willing to pay for it (since it's obviously not cheap to do a design&assembly variant of this complexity for only a few customers)
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2014-06-10 05:34 <DocScrutinizer05> you're aware that the usual X5R/X7R are susceptible to piezo effects and can even make the PCB emit sounds. Are you also aware the in turn the mechanical forces to same capacitor are introducing distortions into electric signal?
2014-06-10 05:35 <wpwrak> what do they say ? "honesty is an important thing in marketing. if you can fake it convincingly, there's no limit to your success"
2014-06-10 05:36 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't like your tone
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2014-06-10 05:36 <wpwrak> yes yes, i'm aware of the works of Mr. Piezo :)
2014-06-10 05:38 <DocScrutinizer05> basically the usual standard smd capacitor is a NON-linear component
2014-06-10 05:38 <wpwrak> ver few things are, at the end of the day
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2014-06-10 05:38 <wpwrak> verY
2014-06-10 05:39 <DocScrutinizer05> well, if you say so
2014-06-10 05:40 <wpwrak> i mean, very few things are "linear" (or otherwise "ideal")
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2014-06-10 05:48 <DocScrutinizer05> I mean very few statements are *absolutely* true
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2014-06-10 05:49 <larsc> and in the end it only has to be linear enough to work
2014-06-10 05:50 <DocScrutinizer05> yours is similarly true to "there are no isolators"
2014-06-10 05:50 <wpwrak> indeed :)
2014-06-10 05:51 <DocScrutinizer05> and to "the audio of GTA02 just worked"
2014-06-10 05:52 <wpwrak> that, on the other hand, may stretch poetic license a little :)
2014-06-10 05:52 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't feel in the mood to take my obligatory daily bashing by nonsensical arguments just right now. c u l8r
2014-06-10 05:53 <wpwrak> funny. we all agree, and he still feels like he's being bashed. pms ? :)
2014-06-10 05:55 <DocScrutinizer05> I can't agree on "doesn't matter when X5R introduces 15% TIM, a resistor also introduces noise and distortion (though maybe a little bit less"  or  "yeah, sure, you might be able to hide that you're dishonest" KTNXBY
2014-06-10 05:56 <wpwrak> nobody said you were dishonest. we're just making fun of the audio market.
2014-06-10 05:58 <DocScrutinizer05> nobody said you are drunk
2014-06-10 05:59 <DocScrutinizer05> and nobody said you're telling shit
2014-06-10 06:00 <wpwrak> hmm, i still have a bottle of beer in the fridge. it would go nicely with a bit of late night snack, and it's still early enough (or late, if you want) for a good drink at this hour to be socially acceptable :)
2014-06-10 06:00 <wpwrak> i think i'll just take your advice. thanks ! :)
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2014-06-10 10:19 <dos1> but hey, that advice was great
2014-06-10 10:19 <dos1> the whole audiophile market operates like that :P
2014-06-10 10:20 <dos1> my favourite is awfully expensive gold USB cable for high quality digital audio ;)
2014-06-10 10:27 <dos1> things like replacing nickel-plated contacts with gold-plated ones and changing few other similar details indeed are able to raise the price up by adding next 0 to its end, so if we'd have to follow the rules of this market DocScrutinizer05's propositions should probably add a few more zeros :P
2014-06-10 10:28 <dos1> actually, if we'd use "audiophile" terminology, then I wonder if target audience would trust that it's "audiophile enough" if the price would be too low :D
2014-06-10 11:05 <nicksydney> gold is expensive than nickel :)
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2014-06-10 12:13 <wpwrak> dos1: (price too low) yes, that's a funny effect. make something cheaper than people expect it to be and they will not buy it - no matter how good it is - because they don't trust the price
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2014-06-10 13:47 <wpwrak> pretty neat "AI bot": www.cleverbot.com
2014-06-10 13:49 <wpwrak> it's a bit terse but can do rather interesting things, like switch languages. I suspect it matches entire phrases, because parsing different grammars that well may be just a bit too difficult.
2014-06-10 13:49 <wpwrak> especially if one of them is german ;-)
2014-06-10 13:55 <larsc> probably just markov chains or something similar
2014-06-10 13:56 <wpwrak> yes, must be that. pretty amazing how well it works, though.
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2014-06-10 13:58 <larsc> (in reality you are just connected to another clever bot user ;))
2014-06-10 13:59 <wpwrak> yeah, i thought of that possibility :)
2014-06-10 14:00 <wpwrak> apparently, there are nearly 100k people chatting with the bot, so it could just randomly pick partners.
2014-06-10 14:02 <ysionneau> by testing the French, it types like a French teenager
2014-06-10 14:03 <ysionneau> with horrible errors
2014-06-10 14:03 <ysionneau> so I suspect indeed it pastes sentences from other chatters
2014-06-10 14:08 <larsc> I think it works by remembering responses
2014-06-10 14:08 <larsc> so when the bot says foo and you answer with bar
2014-06-10 14:08 <larsc> the next time somebody says foo the bot answers with bar
2014-06-10 14:09 <ysionneau> :(
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2014-06-10 16:11 <whitequark> wpwrak: there's a certain markov chain bot, @winocm_ebooks, seeded with the twitter of a certain jailbreaker
2014-06-10 16:12 <whitequark> thousands of people talk to it for months, begging it to release a jailbreak for iOS 7.1, and not realizing that it is a bot, at all.
2014-06-10 16:12 <whitequark> frankly, I have no belief in humanity
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2014-06-10 17:01 <wpwrak> oh, that's clever. very limited topic range, and a "personality" with every excuse for being erratic (in addition to the excuses people will just make up because they so desperately want that jailbreak)
2014-06-10 17:01 <whitequark> hm, apparently it was deleted
2014-06-10 17:01 <whitequark> a pity; the conversations were hilarious
2014-06-10 17:05 <wpwrak> (cleverbot) hmm, been around ("public") since 1997. that would explain the massive database
2014-06-10 17:06 <wpwrak> that level of "intelligence" should actually be suitable for technical support and such
2014-06-10 17:18 <wpwrak> "What do the rectangles in a flowchart mean ?" "They tell me to do bad things." neat :)
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