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2014-04-17 01:51 <wpwrak> hmm, the ideal pet - siren and tripwire in one :)
2014-04-17 02:05 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZiZE2Zcng
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2014-04-17 02:19 <whitequark> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cmglee_Horniman_hedgehog_skin_skeleton.jpg
2014-04-17 02:20 <whitequark> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hedgehog_self-anointing.jpg
2014-04-17 02:20 <whitequark> how is that even possible? that can't be Euclidean geometry
2014-04-17 02:20 <wpwrak> once squid was cool. then the next internet fad was ponies. now hedgehogs ?
2014-04-17 02:24 <wpwrak> the boat is cool, though
2014-04-17 02:33 <whitequark> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdsxho2Cnog#t=150
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2014-04-17 03:49 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DZfYFhywhRs#t=78
2014-04-17 03:50 <DocScrutinizer05> nice to scare away annoying visitors
2014-04-17 04:01 <wpwrak> a fun experiment would be to breed animals for intelligence. e.g., have a certain population of them, take sperm/egg samples, sterilize them, then train them and rank them by the results. then use genes of the best for the next generation. and so on. ideally, implant the fertilized eggs into the biological mother, so any social learning component can also be propagated.
2014-04-17 04:22 <DocScrutinizer05> hey, you watched the results ;-)
2014-04-17 04:33 <DocScrutinizer05> btw somebody did that with bacteria (fast generations) until the bacteria communicated to him by writing letters to him with their bodies on the substrate. Or was that only a SF I've been reading ;-)
2014-04-17 04:34 <whitequark> bacterial quorum sensing is a pretty powerful thing
2014-04-17 04:35 <DocScrutinizer05> you might ask how the bacteria learned written language. I think they had paranormal powers, and the letters they wrote were about prophecies
2014-04-17 04:36 <whitequark> those cats are seriously derpy
2014-04-17 04:37 <DocScrutinizer05> the terminator cat is scary
2014-04-17 04:39 <DocScrutinizer05> dunno why since cats are proverbially notorious for their glowing eyes
2014-04-17 04:39 <DocScrutinizer05> brolly red glowing is just a tad unusual
2014-04-17 04:39 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly
2014-04-17 04:41 <whitequark> well, green glowing eyes are no less scary
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2014-04-17 12:17 <wpwrak> the really scare kind of glow is blue
2014-04-17 12:19 <whitequark> cherenkov?
2014-04-17 12:23 <wpwrak> yup :)
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2014-04-17 13:29 <DocScrutinizer05> haha
2014-04-17 13:29 <DocScrutinizer05> I had to learn that what I thought was cherenkov blue in water reactors is actually sth else (iirc)
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2014-04-17 13:32 <whitequark> odd
2014-04-17 13:33 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe I double-compensated again. Can't find any records in my wetware archive where this info came from and what was the "alternative"
2014-04-17 13:34 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe once I thought it was something else and then learned it is tscherenkow ?
2014-04-17 13:34 <DocScrutinizer05> damn alzheimer
2014-04-17 13:35 <wpwrak> in russia, you learn cherenkov in kindergarden :)
2014-04-17 13:35 <DocScrutinizer05> should've used proper fans or exhausts when soldering during my teen times. Pb atoms in the brain create instable memory molecules
2014-04-17 13:36 <wpwrak> blame it on quantum metaphysics :)
2014-04-17 13:36 <DocScrutinizer05> I blame it on inverse tscherenkow in metamaterials
2014-04-17 13:36 <DocScrutinizer05> inverse doppler, wtf?
2014-04-17 13:37 <whitequark> does Pb even fly in the air while soldering?
2014-04-17 13:37 <whitequark> I mean, it is not exactly easy to vaporize
2014-04-17 13:37 <DocScrutinizer05> seems like metamaterials have negative speed
2014-04-17 13:37 <whitequark> oooooh wait, DocScrutinizer05 prefers "explosive" soldering methods. then definitely
2014-04-17 13:37 <DocScrutinizer05> whitequark: nfc
2014-04-17 13:38 <DocScrutinizer05> hahaha :-D
2014-04-17 13:38 <DocScrutinizer05> I think solder fumes are pretty toxic
2014-04-17 13:38 <wpwrak> more likely, it's all the good flux fumes
2014-04-17 13:39 <DocScrutinizer05> hos's flux (usually resin) going to be extremely toxic?
2014-04-17 13:39 <DocScrutinizer05> how's*
2014-04-17 13:39 <DocScrutinizer05> rosin even
2014-04-17 13:39 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: well, there are no solder fumes
2014-04-17 13:39 <wpwrak> while everyone if worrying about the heavy metal, let's have some fun with the really nasty side of chemistry :)
2014-04-17 13:39 <whitequark> the t° of vaporization is so much higher it's not even funny
2014-04-17 13:39 <whitequark> flux however... see, in solid form it's mostly harmless. when you heat it, it recombines into all kinds of weird shit
2014-04-17 13:40 <whitequark> and chances are that half of it is carcinogenic
2014-04-17 13:40 <DocScrutinizer05> meh, nfc
2014-04-17 13:40 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: "resin" describes large-scale properties. you can still pour any carcinogenic on your lists into it and it still counts as a "resin"
2014-04-17 13:40 <whitequark> RMA is "rosin"
2014-04-17 13:40 <whitequark> not "resin"
2014-04-17 13:41 <whitequark> "rosin" is pine juice
2014-04-17 13:41 <wpwrak> marketing name :)
2014-04-17 13:41 <whitequark> well, at least here when you buy rosin, it's 100% natural "green" technology
2014-04-17 13:41 <DocScrutinizer05> I could easily think of some Pb atoms getting transported away together with the resin vapors, but honestly... I just know solder fumes are considered *extremely* dangerous and thus in industry manual soldering without proper protective measures is forbidden
2014-04-17 13:41 <whitequark> I'm frightened to think about when the soldering fat comes
2014-04-17 13:41 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: yes, that's the rosin incomplete combustion products
2014-04-17 13:42 <whitequark> I mean, when you smoke, it's more or less the same shit
2014-04-17 13:42 <whitequark> except I guess the industry doesn't directly profit from workers inhaling that or something
2014-04-17 13:43 <wpwrak> high time to change that biz model
2014-04-17 13:43 <wpwrak> how about big pharma getting into electronic production ?
2014-04-17 13:44 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.google.com/search?q=loeten+giftige+daempfe
2014-04-17 13:45 <wpwrak> work five years in the fab, live on - government-paid - retosneezol for the rest of your pitiful life
2014-04-17 13:48 <DocScrutinizer05> wtf is retosneezol?
2014-04-17 13:48 <DocScrutinizer05> sounds like a remedy against flu
2014-04-17 13:50 <DocScrutinizer05> (I did a lot of idiotic things when I was young, like sleeping in a pile of glass whool, playing with mercury in my hand, carrying around small qty of uranium, soldering a lot without proper ventilation, .. aso)
2014-04-17 13:51 <DocScrutinizer05> .s/idiotic/idiotic hazardous/
2014-04-17 13:52 <DocScrutinizer05> not to even start mentioning my chemical experiments
2014-04-17 13:53 <whitequark> mmm, mercury
2014-04-17 13:53 <DocScrutinizer05> the amount of glycerine trinitrate I flushed down the toilet since I considered it another failure because a drop falling from first floor to the pavement didn't explode... LOL
2014-04-17 13:54 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I been 13 or 14
2014-04-17 13:54 <DocScrutinizer05> not really smart (maybe I'm not smart today)
2014-04-17 13:57 <DocScrutinizer05> must've been a total that would've sufficed to blast away that small house
2014-04-17 14:00 <DocScrutinizer05> and then all the "guns" I built ;-P For "ammunition" like crackers with arbitrary stuff to fire through that 1/2" 1m water pipe
2014-04-17 14:00 <DocScrutinizer05> with steel balls from bearings you easily could shoot a big hole into a wall with that thing
2014-04-17 14:01 <DocScrutinizer05> shooting with putty had funny effects
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2014-04-17 14:10 <DocScrutinizer05> oh yeah, and those: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogelschreck - they been available with a bit of social engineering back when, and that Al + KClO4 gunpower ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzknallsatz#Blitzknallsatz ) in them was really good stuff, I more then once created really amazing explosions with it
2014-04-17 14:11 <DocScrutinizer05> easily made 1/2" water pipes burst
2014-04-17 14:17 <DocScrutinizer05> YAY! http://www.feuerwerksparadies.de/Aluminiumpulver-German-Dark-1000g \o/ :-D
2014-04-17 14:19 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.feuerwerksparadies.de/epages/62081559.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/62081559/Categories/Metallpulver  truly a paradise for pyrotechnicians
2014-04-17 14:23 <DocScrutinizer05> wow! >>Dieses Magnesiumpulver darf aufgrund bestehender Ausfuhrbestimmungen (außer Schweiz) nicht aus der EU ausgeführt werden<< http://www.feuerwerksparadies.de/epages/62081559.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/62081559/Categories/Metallpulver/%22Magnesiumpulver%20Special%20Pyro%E2%84%A2%22
2014-04-17 14:23 <DocScrutinizer05> >>Frei ab 18 Jahren<< :-D
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2014-04-17 14:56 <DocScrutinizer05> I just wonder where the average pyrotechnician gets his oxidizers
2014-04-17 14:57 <DocScrutinizer05> feuerwerksparadies.de doesn't sell any, which is a bit strange
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2014-04-17 17:02 <DocScrutinizer05> hmmm, seems NaClO3 is "available", and it seems easy enough to create KClO3 from that and KCl
2014-04-17 17:03 <DocScrutinizer05> while synthesizing KClO3 via electrolysis from KCl is a PITA
2014-04-17 17:08 <DocScrutinizer05> on another similarly OT topic: Putin threats Ukraine to send military troops to protect "russian population". What an idiot! I think USA should send troops to Moskow to protect american prpulation
2014-04-17 17:10 <DocScrutinizer05> when the "russian population" doesn't feel safe in Ukraine, then they goddamn shall move their ass out of that country and go to Russia where they belong
2014-04-17 17:10 <DocScrutinizer05> nobody will stop them
2014-04-17 17:11 <wpwrak> if you think someone should go to war against putin for what he's doing there, the world ought to have gone many times over to war against the US for the things they have done
2014-04-17 17:11 <DocScrutinizer05> sure
2014-04-17 17:11 <wpwrak> but i see than mainstream media propaganda is not wasted :)
2014-04-17 17:12 <DocScrutinizer05> uhuh
2014-04-17 17:12 <DocScrutinizer05> and what makes you think that?
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2014-04-17 17:12 <DocScrutinizer05> do you call a translation of a Putin quote in TV propaganda?
2014-04-17 17:13 <wpwrak> isn't what you're writing here pretty much the cold war propaganda mainstream media in .de are preaching ?
2014-04-17 17:13 <DocScrutinizer05> no, not at all
2014-04-17 17:13 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm actually missing any such rationale in TV
2014-04-17 17:14 <wpwrak> ah, so they skip the "why" and move directly to the "how". i see
2014-04-17 17:14 <DocScrutinizer05> EH?
2014-04-17 17:14 <DocScrutinizer05> I think you love shorthand conclusions that are based on your own assumptions
2014-04-17 17:15 <wpwrak> well, you said they don't give rationale. just play on old fears / stereotypes
2014-04-17 17:15 <DocScrutinizer05> no, I didn't say that
2014-04-17 17:15 <DocScrutinizer05> YOU say that
2014-04-17 17:15 <wpwrak> so they give different rationale ?
2014-04-17 17:15 <DocScrutinizer05> I said they translated a text Putin spoke into camera
2014-04-17 17:16 <wpwrak> so they're siding with putin ? now i'm confused :)
2014-04-17 17:16 <DocScrutinizer05> and I'm pretty sure you know about e.g. tagesschau.de mediacenter, to watch for yourself what they actually tell
2014-04-17 17:16 <DocScrutinizer05> NOW???
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2014-04-17 17:17 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm not denying you might be confused, but nevertheless I'm pretty sure yiu simply try starting an argument for the joy of arguing
2014-04-17 17:18 <wpwrak> i just read the comments on telepolis. and there it sounded as if .de mainstream media was against russia
2014-04-17 17:18 <DocScrutinizer05> tzz
2014-04-17 17:19 <DocScrutinizer05> when I'm against Putin and what he does and says, then I don't need telepolis or TV for that, I just listen to what he's saying and watch what he's doing
2014-04-17 17:22 <DocScrutinizer05> and a statement like "we might send regular troops to foreign country X to protect our own citizens' population there" is a statement that I frown upon, no matter who's saying it and where and what X might be
2014-04-17 17:23 <DocScrutinizer05> first send 500 "civilians" then send troops to protect those, then send more troops to protect the first troops
2014-04-17 17:23 <DocScrutinizer05> makes a lot of sense, no?
2014-04-17 17:24 <wpwrak> oh course, with that argument, pretty much any country can "send troops" pretty much anywhere
2014-04-17 17:24 <wpwrak> so i'm waiting for the austrian navy's arrival to protect me against street crime ;-)
2014-04-17 17:24 <DocScrutinizer05> I say "go the fuck off and out of this country X, then you don't need troops to protect you from whatever percieved threat you might face here. After all nobody asked you to come here"
2014-04-17 17:24 <wpwrak> yes, exactly :)
2014-04-17 17:25 <wpwrak> of course, those russians probably have been living there for a long time, so ...
2014-04-17 17:26 <wpwrak> and remember when the US sent their helicopters to teheran. little good that it did them, though ...
2014-04-17 17:26 <DocScrutinizer05> no, unlike Krim they don't "live there" in eastern Ukraine
2014-04-17 17:27 <DocScrutinizer05> and aiui even in Krim they "lived there2 since 19xx only, after they deported the true local population: the Krim tartars
2014-04-17 17:27 <wpwrak> ah yes, that may be the case (non-krim)
2014-04-17 17:28 <wpwrak> i see the further engagenment basically as an extension of the krim conflict since ukraine won't shut up
2014-04-17 17:31 <wpwrak> not sure what internal tensions they may have there, too. it does seem that it's not nearly as uniform as it may seem from the outside.
2014-04-17 17:57 <DocScrutinizer05> btw it's totally irrelevant how long somebody "lives there". Either he got a alien passport then he has no entitlement to ask for troops from his own nation to pester the nation he's living in. Or he is a citizen of the nation he's living in then he has no entitlement (and no reason) to ask alien troops to come and protect him just because he doesn't like the president of his own country. The less he has a right to grap a
2014-04-17 17:57 <DocScrutinizer05> kalashnikov and a dozen grenades and raid the next airport or police station or military base to emphasize his claims
2014-04-17 18:00 <DocScrutinizer05> just to cry and whine "look! they done me wrong! those bastards" when the soldiers of the miltary base shoot back at him when he tries to climb the fence, after throwing those grenades and shooting at the barracks
2014-04-17 18:08 <DocScrutinizer05> oh, btw Putin first time admits there were actually russian troops involved in the Krim separation. Oh really, Mr Putin? REALLY NOW? dang! hadn't thought that!
2014-04-17 18:10 <DocScrutinizer05> so what were all those statements "we have no soldiers on Krim involved in the whole riot there"? You didn't know what you're telling, a few days ago? or you simply blatantly lied to the world?
2014-04-17 18:13 <DocScrutinizer05> when USa lost all their (little bit) of reputation with the Iraq war, then Russia does now, with Ukraine
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2014-04-17 18:20 <wpwrak> i'd say that the US lost a lot of credibility with their 2nd iraq war and the continuation to afghanistan. well, my point of view may also have shifted because i move from .eu to .ar at that time, and got a better look at what colonial forces (including the US) had been doing around here, but i'm quite unconcerned about what russia may be doing these days but treat anything the us are up to with utmost suspicion
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2014-04-17 18:23 <DocScrutinizer05> the USA with their satanic "remote-kill rather than prosecute" policy don't justify what Putin is after right now
2014-04-17 18:27 <wpwrak> i'm just explaining my perception priorities. as long as putin stays away from the nukes, keeps his fingers off "western" or chinese interests, and doesn't start too much of a bloodbath, i don't care much.
2014-04-17 18:28 <wpwrak> and i instantly distrust any warmongerers in the west who see this as an opportunity
2014-04-17 18:36 <whitequark> fascinating. the founder of "russian facebook" decided to leave and send his shares rather than surrender ukrainians' data to russian government: https://vk.com/feed?w=wall1_45621
2014-04-17 18:38 <wpwrak> neat. he and the founder of lavabit should get together and settle on sealand,  perhaps soon last remaining land of the free and un-spied-upon
2014-04-17 18:47 <DocScrutinizer05> you'll notice sooner than you thought that Putin already starts to mess with "western interests"
2014-04-17 18:48 <DocScrutinizer05> started* actually
2014-04-17 18:50 <wpwrak> i mean as in "attack" or "invade". and yes, i worded that poorly. let's say "established western interests". otherwise, the whole world would be off-limits ...
2014-04-17 18:50 <DocScrutinizer05> gasprom recently bought vital parts of the EU-borne gas infra, including several emergency stores that should make sure an independence of several months from Russian gas delivery
2014-04-17 18:51 <wpwrak> how kind of you guys to let him have that ;-)
2014-04-17 18:51 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed
2014-04-17 18:53 <DocScrutinizer05> and iirc the massive DDoS to * in Lituana(?) a few years ago been traced-back to Russia
2014-04-17 18:53 <whitequark> lol, that doesn't say anything at all
2014-04-17 18:54 <DocScrutinizer05> not really
2014-04-17 18:54 <whitequark> there are probably a dozen DDoS attacks daily traced back to Russia.
2014-04-17 18:54 <DocScrutinizer05> that's the "nice part2 about DDoS and cyberwar at large
2014-04-17 18:55 <DocScrutinizer05> there's probably no DDoS that gets down a whole country, except that one I mentioned
2014-04-17 18:56 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway, Ukraine forbid russian males 16-60 y o to enter
2014-04-17 18:57 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: I'm sure you could use one of those NTP amplification attacks to get down a small country
2014-04-17 18:57 <whitequark> I mean, there are countries where the only uplink is a 2Mbps satellite link :p
2014-04-17 18:58 <DocScrutinizer05> do a reality check! Lituana is better at IT than e.g. Germany
2014-04-17 19:01 <DocScrutinizer05> Estonia, sorry
2014-04-17 19:02 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/may/17/topstories3.russia
2014-04-17 19:06 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/03/cyber-war-ukraine-russia
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2014-04-17 19:49 <DocScrutinizer05> a rather good one I think, though it's of course up to you to filter it according to what you believe might be the bias in this article:  http://mashable.com/2014/04/14/russia-ukraine-cyber-warfare/
2014-04-17 19:53 <whitequark> oh, I'm sure putin would use any means he would think of as necessary
2014-04-17 19:54 <whitequark> if I doubt something, it's their IT competency, not potential for malice
2014-04-17 19:56 * whitequark cringes at http://www.newsweek.com/why-ukraine-hasnt-sparked-big-cyber-war-so-far-232175
2014-04-17 19:56 <whitequark> it uses the prefix "cyber-" 39 times
2014-04-17 19:56 <whitequark> whoever wrote that must be beat with a ruler over their fingers until enlightenment
2014-04-17 19:57 <DocScrutinizer05> LOL! http://mashable.com/2014/04/17/snowden-putin-surveillance/
2014-04-17 19:58 <whitequark> the article is factually incorrect
2014-04-17 19:58 * DocScrutinizer05 heads off to find the right Zappa record to listen to in this mood
2014-04-17 19:58 <whitequark> SORM is, for all we know about it, only able to perform selective interception of mobile phone calls and SMS
2014-04-17 19:59 <whitequark> it has no business whatsoever in ISPs, except *perhaps* mobile ISPs, but still more likely not
2014-04-17 19:59 <DocScrutinizer05> :nod: that's how I read the article's description of its technical implementation
2014-04-17 19:59 <whitequark> >direct access to Internet servers
2014-04-17 19:59 <whitequark> no such thing
2014-04-17 20:00 <whitequark> actually, I'm not strictly against SORM. there are probably cases where you really do need to do wiretapping
2014-04-17 20:00 <DocScrutinizer05> sure
2014-04-17 20:00 <whitequark> another data to give you an idea about its capabilities: SORM must be installed by telco on their own money
2014-04-17 20:01 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm actually not interested a lot in SORM, it's the performance of Putin and snowden that makes me laugh
2014-04-17 20:01 <whitequark> obviously telcos aren't going to spend billions on petabyte datacenters, they simply are unable to
2014-04-17 20:02 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm pretty aware of what SORM might be, given you're prolly using SIEMENS exxchanges, with german standard lawful interception interface
2014-04-17 20:02 <whitequark> likely
2014-04-17 20:03 <whitequark> ha, actually there is a SORM-3 proposal which is not unlike what US does
2014-04-17 20:07 <DocScrutinizer05> the more snowden is acting pathetic
2014-04-17 20:08 <whitequark> well, the factual statement that the russian state is acting less evil than us state in some cases is bound to stir stuff up
2014-04-17 20:08 <whitequark> maybe that's the idea
2014-04-17 20:08 <DocScrutinizer05> but he wouldn't want to disclose details on russian surveillance now just like he did for US surveillance, since then where the heck would he move *then*?
2014-04-17 20:08 <wpwrak> i suppose the visa extension comes with some strings attached. having to ask a question putin can safely answer would be a relatively innocent such string.
2014-04-17 20:09 <DocScrutinizer05> yep
2014-04-17 20:09 <DocScrutinizer05> likely
2014-04-17 20:10 <whitequark> can't really blame him
2014-04-17 20:10 <whitequark> the guy's going to be a figurehead-non-grata for the rest of his life. not exactly something to env
2014-04-17 20:10 <whitequark> *envy
2014-04-17 20:12 <DocScrutinizer05> what been his #1 choice of country to ask for asylum? Norway?
2014-04-17 20:12 <DocScrutinizer05> Island
2014-04-17 20:12 <wpwrak> well, still lots better than the military torture-jail they put manning in
2014-04-17 20:12 <DocScrutinizer05> err Iceland?
2014-04-17 20:12 <DocScrutinizer05> yup
2014-04-17 20:13 <DocScrutinizer05> seems moving from Moscow to any of those northern-european states couldn't be too hard, even for him, even without taking an airplane which USA could intercept
2014-04-17 20:14 <whitequark> with his face all over the news?
2014-04-17 20:14 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe he's not even allowed to leave russia ;-P
2014-04-17 20:15 <DocScrutinizer05> this might be another part of the deal with Putin
2014-04-17 20:15 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway, doesn't his visa expire soon? didn't he receive a 1 year permission for Russia only?
2014-04-17 20:16 <wpwrak> i think it expires in july
2014-04-17 20:16 <whitequark> I'm sure he'll get the permission for as long as he wants, as long as he annoys Obama more than Putin :)
2014-04-17 20:17 <whitequark> I wonder if there's any "deal"
2014-04-17 20:17 <whitequark> maybe there is
2014-04-17 20:18 <DocScrutinizer05> the annoying-Obama aspect is dwindling
2014-04-17 20:18 <whitequark> I don't think Russia has ever extradited anyone, and especially not to US, so here's that
2014-04-17 20:18 <wpwrak> i wonder how many CIA-honeypot snowdens they have in russia
2014-04-17 20:18 <DocScrutinizer05> while the annoy-Putin aspect might increase
2014-04-17 20:22 <wpwrak> i suppose it depends on how putin sees snowdens attempts to find asylum elsewhere. could be either way. "what, russia not good enough for you ?" or "keep trying. they'll all duck before the mighty US and we'll come out again and again as the land of the truly free and brave."
2014-04-17 20:28 <DocScrutinizer05> :nod:
2014-04-17 20:29 <DocScrutinizer05> on a completely unrelated topic: donations to Neo900 came to a halt
2014-04-17 20:31 <DocScrutinizer05> 03-28 350 units, 400 donations, 73555€
2014-04-17 20:32 <DocScrutinizer05> so ~4/3weeks
2014-04-17 20:37 <wpwrak> yeah, you guys probably need to produce more good news. progress reports, pictures of new hardware, that sort of stuff.
2014-04-17 20:37 <whitequark> yep
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2014-04-17 20:44 <wpwrak> seems that dos1 heard us :)
2014-04-17 20:45 <dos1> I hear everything :)
2014-04-17 20:46 <wpwrak> and now we uncloaked the NSA operative in this channel as well :)
2014-04-17 20:46 * whitequark was going to say
2014-04-17 20:46 <dos1> tomorrow in newspapers: "NSA denies that dos1 is their operative"
2014-04-17 20:47 <dos1> ;)
2014-04-17 20:48 <dos1> ok, so after checking the logs: I'm waiting impatiently for that new proto board Nikolaus is supposed to receive soon
2014-04-17 20:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I think he's still busy with layout
2014-04-17 20:49 <dos1> :x
2014-04-17 20:50 <dos1> the last update was about one month ago, so I agree it's high time for the next one
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2014-04-17 20:54 <DocScrutinizer05> dang, already almost a week since last weekend, and my reconvalescence holiday hasn't even started yet
2014-04-17 20:55 * DocScrutinizer05 feels like some black hole trapped him in time and space
2014-04-17 20:56 <DocScrutinizer05> dos1: you noticed that mentioning of "baseband firewall" on schneier?
2014-04-17 20:57 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak came up with the link a few days ago
2014-04-17 20:57 <dos1> DocScrutinizer05: that one that was triggered very often near airports?
2014-04-17 20:57 <DocScrutinizer05> yup
2014-04-17 20:57 <dos1> nah, haven't seen it
2014-04-17 20:57 <dos1> :D
2014-04-17 20:57 <DocScrutinizer05> thought it could use a reply "we're doing this, and more. cheers, neo900"
2014-04-17 21:01 * DocScrutinizer05 actually pondered whether this cryptophone company was a nice employer for him
2014-04-17 21:20 <Web-aptosid876_> tiny compact or small dev boards? lesser evil socs like a20 to mips as long as there not a gpl violator. this is for a diy pockect computer. my plan is to use my improv when enough people order it = I get it in the post but I'm getting impatiante so I'm looking at other options for the short term
2014-04-17 21:21 <Web-aptosid876_> improv= http://makeplaylive.com
2014-04-17 21:28 <Web-aptosid876_> what about these "mini pc" sticks - a20,usb,wifi,hdmi, and some models like mk802c have composite video which one could hock up so a small composite input lcd like http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-5-inch-TFT-LCD-stand-alone-monitor-car-rear-view-monitor-RV-3504-For-Backup/1753099574.html
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2014-04-17 22:31 <qwebirc93835> Hello
2014-04-17 22:33 <qwebirc93835> I have a question reguarding the Avalon 2 its a single 100GH unit.  It has the Power / USB adapter that mates to the back.
2014-04-17 22:34 <qwebirc93835> My question is, Where can i get a replacement USB Adapter / Power Board?   I have plugged 2 different powersupplys in to it and nothing happens.  But when i plug them in to other devices the psu's work just fine.
2014-04-17 22:40 <DocScrutinizer05> avalon2?
2014-04-17 22:40 <DocScrutinizer05> 100GH?
2014-04-17 22:41 <qwebirc93835> yes
2014-04-17 22:41 <whitequark> bitcoin miner
2014-04-17 22:42 <qwebirc93835> yes it is a bitcoin miner
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2014-04-17 22:43 <qwebirc93835> I can give you the board numbers if that would help?
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2014-04-17 22:52 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: http://www.heute.de/ukraine-kiew-geht-gegen-pro-russische-aktivisten-vor-32838572.html
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2014-04-17 22:53 <qwebirc93835> the main board is 04B01841EA0   and the USB Adapter is 652515
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