2014-04-07 00:06 <wpwrak> kyak: (location field) i mean he field where you enter url or search term
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2014-04-07 10:31 <kyak> wpwrak: ah, the address bar :)
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2014-04-07 17:49 <DocScrutinizer05> it never appealed to me to have *search* funtions in *URL* address text input box
2014-04-07 17:50 <whitequark> why not? it's convenient
2014-04-07 17:51 <whitequark> Ctrl+L ? query
2014-04-07 17:51 <DocScrutinizer05> and *redefining* that search to point to a web site / webservice of the liking of the page I just visit opens up a vulnerability vector huge enough to drive Putin's complete army through it
2014-04-07 17:52 <DocScrutinizer05> insaen concept
2014-04-07 17:52 <DocScrutinizer05> insane*
2014-04-07 17:54 <DocScrutinizer05> instant http proxy for everything
2014-04-07 17:54 <whitequark> oh, I see, wpwrak's message
2014-04-07 17:54 <whitequark> it doesn't change anything for me though
2014-04-07 17:55 <whitequark> and in my experience chromium is pretty stringent about asking permissions for websites...
2014-04-07 17:57 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer05: i find having search and url combined very convenient. about as nice as the "gg:" or such prefixes in konqueror (the latter give me a bit more control, though that rarely matters)
2014-04-07 17:57 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm reminded of stupid lusers who got google as their browser start page and never even got the catch what for the URL address text input box might be, since they eneter *every* URL to the google search input box
2014-04-07 17:57 <wpwrak> but yes, the overriding is evil
2014-04-07 17:58 <DocScrutinizer05> and yes, gg: (or wp: or wpe:) is a very convenient function in Konqueror
2014-04-07 17:59 <DocScrutinizer05> but really not at all related to a general default searching of every text I type to URL addr txt inp
2014-04-07 18:00 <DocScrutinizer05> even worse when I can't be sure *which* search engine is used to do that search for me
2014-04-07 18:00 <DocScrutinizer05> developers must be on crack to implement such a function
2014-04-07 18:01 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: right-click, "edit search engines", duckduckgo or whatever it is you like
2014-04-07 18:02 <whitequark> it's not "on crack", it's basic ux design
2014-04-07 18:02 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah sure
2014-04-07 18:02 <DocScrutinizer05> nonsense
2014-04-07 18:02 <DocScrutinizer05> [2014-04-06 Sun 05:48:01] <wpwrak> wow. duden.de seems to redirect the search in the location field of chromium to duden.de. i didn't even know that as possible.
2014-04-07 18:02 <wpwrak> naw, most of the time it works very nicely. i like it. what i don't like is that it sometimes changes the input for me on horizontal cursor movement. i really hate that.
2014-04-07 18:02 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: that's a bug *shrug*
2014-04-07 18:03 <whitequark> I'm not saying random websites should be able to change that on a whim, rather the opposite
2014-04-07 18:03 <DocScrutinizer05> I'll set up a webpage that owns your system on visiting it with such a idiotic browser
2014-04-07 18:03 <DocScrutinizer05> and a few minutes later it owns your bank account
2014-04-07 18:04 <DocScrutinizer05> and all your email accounts
2014-04-07 18:04 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: by the way, by this logic linux was done on crack
2014-04-07 18:04 <whitequark> because it has vulnerabilities
2014-04-07 18:04 <DocScrutinizer05> (given you're a standard luser)
2014-04-07 18:05 <DocScrutinizer05> nevermind. I know I lost my communication abilities.
2014-04-07 18:06 <DocScrutinizer05> or probably my actual thinking happens on a level of abstraction that is not compatible with the level assumed by others by deduction from the way I communicate
2014-04-07 18:08 <DocScrutinizer05> discussing about BS like "a bug. *shrug* you're saying unix been created by idiots since it had and has bugs" -- sorry, I have no nerves for such idiocy
2014-04-07 18:09 <DocScrutinizer05> what makes you think you're entitled to define this as a bug? maybe it's a feature?
2014-04-07 18:09 <wpwrak> whitequark: you idiot :)
2014-04-07 18:11 <DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak's post clearly sounded like this was a feature
2014-04-07 18:14 <DocScrutinizer05> or do you suggest duden.de is exploiting a *bug* to create added value in UX of their website?
2014-04-07 18:15 <wpwrak> well, it does look like a bug, no matter how useful duden.de may find it
2014-04-07 18:16 <wpwrak> oh, and it's limited to the tab, at least something. so if you go to another, everything is back to normal
2014-04-07 18:16 <eintopf> mhh, hi
2014-04-07 18:16 <larsc> wpwrak: it's probably a feature
2014-04-07 18:22 <wpwrak> larsc: it does smell too well thought-out to be a genuine bug. well, so let's call it a design flaw. that's what you get for letting your boss go through the second bottle of whisky of the day before writing the specs
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2014-04-07 18:51 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: yes, I'm suggesting that
2014-04-07 18:52 <whitequark> if it's a feature, it runs counter to everything else I've seen in chromium
2014-04-07 18:52 <whitequark> despite what you may believe, it's pretty strict about not allowing websites to randomly mutate parts of your environment
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