2014-02-21 00:04 wolfspra1l has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 00:04 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 00:07 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2014-02-21 00:10 this is incredibly impressive: 16-channel MIDI on a dot matrix printer: http://vimeo.com/58200103 2014-02-21 00:10 (from http://hackaday.com/2014/02/20/eye-of-the-tiger-as-played-by-a-dot-matrix-printer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29) 2014-02-21 00:15 dos11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2014-02-21 00:18 arielenter has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 00:50 wpwrak_ has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 00:55 uwe_ has quit [*.net *.split] 2014-02-21 00:55 wpwrak has quit [*.net *.split] 2014-02-21 00:57 uwe_ has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 01:02 uwe_ has quit [*.net *.split] 2014-02-21 01:02 uwe_ has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 01:08 apelete has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2014-02-21 01:32 arielenter has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2014-02-21 01:52 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 01:52 kanzure_ is now known as kanzure 2014-02-21 02:51 wpwrak_: what symbol is this http://ctrlv.in/297605 ? 2014-02-21 02:51 in the qi-hardware kicad library 2014-02-21 03:20 that's a switch. but it doesn't look like any we have. maybe the top and bottom connections are case / shield 2014-02-21 03:21 that's from eagle and was wondering if we have something similar in kicad 2014-02-21 03:53 arielenter has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 04:04 arielenter has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2014-02-21 04:07 arielenter has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 04:07 arielenter has quit [Client Quit] 2014-02-21 04:08 arielenter has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 04:08 arielenter has quit [Client Quit] 2014-02-21 04:10 arielenter has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 04:16 SW4 is relatively similar. has four contacts, though (each side goes to two contacts) 2014-02-21 04:17 then we have SW-SPDT which is an ON-ON switch. the ON-OFF type is a bit less common nowadays because it's often just as much work to make an ON-ON switch instead 2014-02-21 04:18 we also have SW-SPDT-S4, which is SW-SPDT plus four shell connections 2014-02-21 04:19 if you want tacts switches, we have SW_PUSH and FSMRA2JH (contact plus two shell contacts) 2014-02-21 04:19 i think that's all the switches we have at the moment 2014-02-21 04:26 michael_lee has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 04:33 michael_lee has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2014-02-21 04:34 arielenter has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2014-02-21 04:35 michael_lee has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 04:47 i think will go with SW_PUSH 2014-02-21 04:48 wpwrak_: this kind of inductor http://ctrlv.in/297630 we don't have but something different right ? 2014-02-21 04:54 we have an inductor with just two terminals 2014-02-21 05:24 wpwrak_: this one http://ctrlv.in/297637 2014-02-21 05:37 nicksydney_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2014-02-21 05:38 nicksydney has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 05:39 wpwrak_: this Balun configuration doesn't look correct ( http://ctrlv.in/297644 ) or I'm not correct...the pin 5 is to GND while there is a label 6 connect to GND too ? doesn't seems right 2014-02-21 05:54 there's also INDUCTOR, without the box 2014-02-21 05:55 not too uncommon to have multiple ground connections 2014-02-21 05:55 wpwrak_: "U6"? 2014-02-21 05:55 wpwrak_: sounds like an active component 2014-02-21 05:56 what U6 ? 2014-02-21 05:56 like: solid state relay 2014-02-21 05:56 http://ctrlv.in/297605 2014-02-21 05:57 ah, that. well, could be. maybe there's more to it than meets the eye :) in which case there should be some label that tells you want chip it is 2014-02-21 05:57 #s/want/what/ 2014-02-21 05:57 yep 2014-02-21 05:58 missing context, literally 2014-02-21 05:58 or maybe the person who picked the component reference U6 just had a strange sense of humor ;-) 2014-02-21 05:59 in the end a schematics and the symbols used are way less of any "standard" than you might have expected 2014-02-21 05:59 it's more like an art, with some commonly accepted styles based on common sense 2014-02-21 06:00 I'd like to watch cubist schematics 2014-02-21 06:00 er, look at 2014-02-21 06:00 or postmodernist 2014-02-21 06:00 the schematics you can actually watch may even be more fun :) 2014-02-21 06:00 wpwrak_: was looking at this https://github.com/Pinoccio/pinoccio-hardware-reference/blob/master/pdf/pinoccio-sch-v0.13.pdf 2014-02-21 06:01 wpwrak_: take LSD and stare on schematics for, say, motherboard ? 2014-02-21 06:01 was looking around for to learn more about Balun configuration in schematics 2014-02-21 06:01 "everything is connected" 2014-02-21 06:01 whitequark: yeah, something along these lines :) 2014-02-21 06:01 * whitequark has learned an important thing today, the warnings against cleaning laser printers with flammable substances are there for a very good reason 2014-02-21 06:02 also it still works, that is after I've removed smouldering paper out of it 2014-02-21 06:02 the switch is labelled as U6 on the left sidwe 2014-02-21 06:03 wpwrak_: why balun need to have 2 track running from Pin 5 of the Balun to GND...thought 1 should be enough ? 2014-02-21 06:14 nicksydney: are you sure it's two separate traces in the layout ? 2014-02-21 06:15 whitequark: well, if you clean your printer with flammables, at least make sure they have plenty of time to evaporate into the surroundings :) 2014-02-21 06:15 looking at the schematics isn't it ? 2014-02-21 06:16 oh hang on..there is pin5 and 6 2014-02-21 06:16 need to zoom in to see that properly ;) 2014-02-21 06:34 qi-bot has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 06:54 wpwrak_: forgot to turn it off 2014-02-21 06:54 rather I *thought* it was turned off 2014-02-21 06:54 but it wasn't, and the air stream tripped some switch or somesuch 2014-02-21 06:54 resulting in quite entertaining picture with flames erupting out of every hole 2014-02-21 06:55 ;-) 2014-02-21 06:57 the fact is that it's not because of russian customs that electronic toys don't reach you. what really happens is that they fight all the way against being shipped once they find out you're their destination :) 2014-02-21 07:08 lol 2014-02-21 07:08 but, so far all the toys have reached me easily! 2014-02-21 07:18 xiangfu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2014-02-21 07:21 whitequark: (galden test) I still can spot some liquid moving along the "corner" of the glass, when tilting and spinning it 2014-02-21 07:22 soon it will be too spread over the glass surface to spot it anymore 2014-02-21 07:25 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders what's with https://github.com/Pinoccio/pinoccio-hardware-reference/blob/master/pdf/pinoccio-sch-v0.13.pdf - looks rather normal and boring. A bit too "eagle-y", I honestly despise that style 2014-02-21 07:26 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 07:26 it always looks a bit like a mixture between school first class "I learn to write AAAAA BBBBB..." and a strange reminiscence to windows2.x resp DOS 2014-02-21 07:26 maybe Hercules gfx 2014-02-21 07:32 use kicad :) 2014-02-21 07:40 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 08:02 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 08:58 how will that change https://github.com/Pinoccio/pinoccio-hardware-reference/blob/master/pdf/pinoccio-sch-v0.13.pdf ? 2014-02-21 09:10 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2014-02-21 09:11 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 09:14 apelete has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 09:22 dos11 has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 09:34 dos11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2014-02-21 09:39 xiangfu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2014-02-21 09:40 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 10:04 heh. now twitter suggests me to follow almost exclusively heise-related accounts, and google puts the first link to a german page like third of the time 2014-02-21 10:04 it's quite creepy 2014-02-21 10:24 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2014-02-21 10:33 ooh, my hotbed magnetic stirrer has arrived 2014-02-21 10:38 magnetic stirrer, doesn't sound particularly useful for electronics purposes. Rather an equipment for chemical lab 2014-02-21 10:39 sure 2014-02-21 10:39 but hey, maybe makes for a geeky teapot warmer with automatic stirring. Ideal for rock sugar ;-) 2014-02-21 10:40 I've got it for etching and preparing other solutions 2014-02-21 10:40 mainly for etching though. remember our discussion? 2014-02-21 10:40 ooh, for preparing solutions it's for sure convenient 2014-02-21 10:40 exactly 2014-02-21 10:40 sure I remember 2014-02-21 10:40 :-D 2014-02-21 10:41 hrm. temperature not adjustable... fixed at 100°C 2014-02-21 10:41 thought I been able to convince you not to waste money on that 2014-02-21 10:41 ouch 2014-02-21 10:41 ouch indeed 2014-02-21 10:41 so not even useful for teapots 2014-02-21 10:42 well, I'm pretty sure it's adjustable with a spare resistor or something 2014-02-21 10:42 :D 2014-02-21 10:42 who knows 2014-02-21 10:43 I've seen room heater fans where the fan motor been on a resistive voltage divider built from the heating err wires 2014-02-21 10:43 extremely nasty and scary design 2014-02-21 10:44 ugh 2014-02-21 10:48 wow, it is so extermely... soviet in design 2014-02-21 10:48 manually soldered lm317 with legs bent *sideways* 2014-02-21 10:49 no, I should just take a photo of this 2014-02-21 10:52 http://imgur.com/DIKissP 2014-02-21 10:52 that's basically all it has 2014-02-21 10:52 actually I don't think it is thermoregulated *at all* 2014-02-21 10:53 also note the chipped "PCB" 2014-02-21 10:53 it's not even FR4, it looks more like cardboard 2014-02-21 10:55 no mask, flux all over... hrm 2014-02-21 11:00 yep. there is absolutely zilch thermoregulation measures. it's just a nichrome wire plugged right into mains 2014-02-21 11:00 WTF I even bought 2014-02-21 11:12 imgut down 2014-02-21 11:13 >>Imgur is over capacity! 2014-02-21 11:13 Sorry! We're busy running around with our hair on fire because Imgur is over capacity! << 2014-02-21 11:14 f5 it 2014-02-21 11:14 wow, it worked 2014-02-21 11:16 cool russian design, pretty futuristic 2014-02-21 11:16 ;-P 2014-02-21 11:16 if by "futuristic" you mean "from the age where word 'futuristic' was cool beans" 2014-02-21 11:16 then yes :D 2014-02-21 11:16 I'm amazed they wasted a second mount post for the PCB 2014-02-21 11:17 lovely FR2, too. very smoothly broken. made at "angry ivan fabs" ? 2014-02-21 11:17 rotfl 2014-02-21 11:17 wpwrak_: yeah, locally made 2014-02-21 11:18 (cardboard) well, that's what FR2 basically is :) 2014-02-21 11:18 I should've known better 2014-02-21 11:18 "made in russia" is the biggest ever warning flag you can see 2014-02-21 11:18 depends 2014-02-21 11:18 'made in germany' was meant as one as well 2014-02-21 11:18 on tanks and other heavy steel stuff it's not all that bad 2014-02-21 11:19 you need those tanks if yo8u have that sort of equipment in your lab ... 2014-02-21 11:19 well... AK-74 is pretty good 2014-02-21 11:19 I had a multimeter from USSR, came in a nice steel mini suitcase 2014-02-21 11:20 and wasn't completely useless 2014-02-21 11:20 DocScrutinizer05: have you got a hernia from it? 2014-02-21 11:20 nope, it was "small" 2014-02-21 11:20 larsc: I dunno, here "germany" = "quality" pretty much 2014-02-21 11:20 there's even an idiom, "exemplary german quality" 2014-02-21 11:21 and "exemplary german order" 2014-02-21 11:21 I used the suitcase later on to pack a 10Ah bike battery into it and connect that to a selfmade 50W flood lamp 2014-02-21 11:21 made from a car fog light 2014-02-21 11:21 I see why you put "small" in quotes 2014-02-21 11:21 did you mean "it was somewhat smaller than a tank" ? 2014-02-21 11:22 whitequark: but it was introduced as a warning sign in GB after the war 2014-02-21 11:22 it turned on them quite quickly though 2014-02-21 11:22 well, yes. That's about the right description 2014-02-21 11:22 ok, not after the war 2014-02-21 11:22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_Germany 2014-02-21 11:25 hmm weird. there's a few patches left on board, which basically don't want to etch 2014-02-21 11:26 I had a tiny bench vise made in USSR, which been extremely cheap (some 5 deutschmarks) and worked fine, despite the whole thing been covered by filler paste to get it in shape prior to painting it in usual metallic blue 2014-02-21 11:26 most of the copper thickness was removed, so it's not surface thing 2014-02-21 11:27 o.O 2014-02-21 11:27 seems kinda like crystals if you look at it at an angle. you know, like zincified steel 2014-02-21 11:27 this kind of reflection 2014-02-21 11:27 copper impurities? 2014-02-21 11:27 and it just sits there for 10 minutes already and doesn't etch, despite all other parts etched fine 2014-02-21 11:27 well idfk 2014-02-21 11:27 weird 2014-02-21 11:27 * wpwrak_ wonders how much longer until you give in and get the HCl ;-) 2014-02-21 11:28 russian product? 2014-02-21 11:28 russian chemistry. probably too radioactive. disturbs the chemistry :) 2014-02-21 11:28 DocScrutinizer05: nope, MGChemicals 2014-02-21 11:28 ... same guys who sold me that shitty printer film 2014-02-21 11:28 I mean the PCB 2014-02-21 11:28 exacrly 2014-02-21 11:28 *exactly 2014-02-21 11:28 etchant is russian 2014-02-21 11:28 ooh 2014-02-21 11:29 *giggle* 2014-02-21 11:29 wpwrak_: what? 2014-02-21 11:29 they seem to be experts in fake sub-par quality stuff 2014-02-21 11:29 DocScrutinizer05: I even scratched that copper and... newsflash... NOTHING HAPPENS 2014-02-21 11:29 like it just sits there with a scratch 2014-02-21 11:29 "etchant is russian" that explains it :) 2014-02-21 11:29 how on earth scratched copper in etching solution is not etching 2014-02-21 11:30 well, when it's no copper 2014-02-21 11:30 simple as that 2014-02-21 11:30 ok, it's definitely not going to etch 2014-02-21 11:30 lemme just throw another chunk of PCB there, even without resist 2014-02-21 11:31 make MGChemicals eat it! 2014-02-21 11:31 I should leave another angry Amazon review 2014-02-21 11:31 maye sure you scrub off the oxides first 2014-02-21 11:32 err, depending on etching fluid you usually don't need to worry about oxides 2014-02-21 11:32 wpwrak_: I didn't do that and it etches just fine 2014-02-21 11:32 yes, but since it already acts kinda weird in that role, i'd try to even the odds 2014-02-21 11:32 it's rather like etching fluid is like very strong flux 2014-02-21 11:33 ah, good. maybe the other one just had some odd contamination. 2014-02-21 11:33 impurity, told ya 2014-02-21 11:33 wpwrak_: no, I mean at surface 2014-02-21 11:33 the other one was just fine at the surface as well 2014-02-21 11:33 it's just at the end of etching where the devil hides 2014-02-21 11:33 with toner transfer, some adhesive residue is often the culprit if something just doesn't want to etch 2014-02-21 11:34 some bored worker threw his snack wrapper paper on the copper bar before it gone thru the roles thinning it 2014-02-21 11:34 well, etching is always at the surface. if it's not exposed, it won't get etched :) 2014-02-21 11:34 oooh wait, interesting effect 2014-02-21 11:34 now comes the cold fusion 2014-02-21 11:35 * wpwrak_ turns on CNN 2014-02-21 11:35 I think I figured it out 2014-02-21 11:35 the etchant is too concentrated 2014-02-21 11:35 or even a beer bottle lid 2014-02-21 11:36 the cold fusion? 2014-02-21 11:36 LOL 2014-02-21 11:36 in fact it is concentrated enough that when I place a board in it, the etchant *crystallizes on the board* 2014-02-21 11:36 quick, describe it before the radiation kills you 2014-02-21 11:36 literally, there appear hard white crystals on the surface 2014-02-21 11:36 obviously preventing any more access to the copper 2014-02-21 11:36 that's kinda same effect as with acid in steel tank 2014-02-21 11:37 old news 2014-02-21 11:37 and if I wash it under tap water, they just wash away, meaning they're water-soluble 2014-02-21 11:37 DocScrutinizer05: passivation is a different effect 2014-02-21 11:37 but I see what you mean 2014-02-21 11:37 slightly 2014-02-21 11:38 the copper salt created from copper and etchant still needs to be able to solve in the liquid 2014-02-21 11:38 in a saturated solution this will probably fail 2014-02-21 11:39 btw you're not supposed to use 99% alcohol for desinfection. Kinda for same reasons 2014-02-21 11:39 bacteria just dehydrate and survive 2014-02-21 11:39 oooh you're right 2014-02-21 11:40 could be CuSO4 2014-02-21 11:40 instead of etchant 2014-02-21 11:40 michael_lee has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2014-02-21 11:42 or even a mixture of both 2014-02-21 11:45 it surely looks like copper crystals... 2014-02-21 11:46 with HCl + H2O2, you can tell simply by the color if the chemistry is right :) 2014-02-21 11:46 "if your face is blue, you're doing it just right? 2014-02-21 11:47 (-:C 2014-02-21 11:49 anyway, failboard: http://imgur.com/SKMWPU6,WZhM5ql 2014-02-21 11:49 LOL 2014-02-21 11:50 DocScrutinizer05: hmm? 2014-02-21 11:50 shit happens 2014-02-21 11:50 yeah it is rather horrible 2014-02-21 11:50 but interesting 2014-02-21 11:51 yeah, do you see those 'crystals'? 2014-02-21 11:51 they're much more evident in person 2014-02-21 11:52 like it has very characteristic alternating-matte-and-gloss surface of zinc coatings 2014-02-21 11:54 DocScrutinizer05: on a second thought I think you're exactly right about passivation 2014-02-21 11:54 if the copper was covered by reaction product = CuSO4 this is exactly what passivation is 2014-02-21 11:54 same as in oxide case 2014-02-21 11:55 rz2k has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 11:55 I should write a note about all this crap 2014-02-21 11:59 so 100 um traces are about where you should stop. maybe even 150 um, to have a bit of a margin. not too shabby. 2014-02-21 12:00 wpwrak_: keep in mind it's ridiculously overetched 2014-02-21 12:00 it was in solution at least 2x longer than it should have been 2014-02-21 12:00 sure. but it's also good to have a bit of a reserve 2014-02-21 12:00 in fact for 100µm and 50µm resist simply detached from traces 2014-02-21 12:01 besides, you probably won't use any components that needs that fine traces anyway ;-) 2014-02-21 12:01 that's true too 2014-02-21 12:01 oh and it's not actually 50µm and 100µm. printer has screwed up. 2014-02-21 12:01 so it's just a pile of various screwups :) 2014-02-21 12:01 wpwrak_: you should read his fine "paper" 2014-02-21 12:01 so how much is it ? 2014-02-21 12:02 and watch the awesome test PCBs there 2014-02-21 12:02 wpwrak_: let's measure. the pcb is 32mm wide. 2014-02-21 12:03 pretty much to the resolution of the resist 2014-02-21 12:03 don't bother, that's futile effort 2014-02-21 12:03 wpwrak_: think DocScrutinizer05 means this: http://lab.whitequark.org/notes/2014-02-16/optimizing-for-best-photoresist-adhesion/ 2014-02-21 12:03 DocScrutinizer05: why? 2014-02-21 12:03 I'm going to measure it by looking at photo in GIMP 2014-02-21 12:03 what do you learn from measuring trace width on that messed up board? 2014-02-21 12:04 oh 2014-02-21 12:04 you're right actually 2014-02-21 12:04 yes, that one 2014-02-21 12:04 you can learn form TAHT 2014-02-21 12:04 THAT even (http://lab.whitequark.org/notes/2014-02-16/optimizing-for-best-photoresist-adhesion/) 2014-02-21 12:05 not his horror PCB 2014-02-21 12:05 http://lab.whitequark.org/images/photoresist/2014-02-13/try-7-highlights.jpeg 2014-02-21 12:05 a piece of artwork 2014-02-21 12:06 glad you like it :D 2014-02-21 12:07 http://lab.whitequark.org/images/photoresist/2014-02-13/try-9-highlights.jpeg :-D 2014-02-21 12:07 I'd say 0.10 has already plenty of safety margin 2014-02-21 12:09 though for a true test you'd have to chech trace pitch, not trace width 2014-02-21 12:09 check* 2014-02-21 12:09 like 5 lines plus 5 gaps on 1mm 2014-02-21 12:09 right... could make that test too 2014-02-21 12:17 o/ sleep 2014-02-21 12:33 you got very weird sleep schedule 2014-02-21 12:34 says the guy living his 30h day in JRTZV 2014-02-21 12:37 ornotermes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2014-02-21 12:38 apelete has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2014-02-21 12:56 apelete has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 13:16 ornotermes has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 13:46 rz2k has quit [] 2014-02-21 13:54 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2014-02-21 15:23 wpwrak_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2014-02-21 15:36 ornotermes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2014-02-21 15:43 ornotermes has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 15:43 pcercuei_ has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 15:46 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2014-02-21 15:48 ornoterm1s has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 15:50 ornotermes has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2014-02-21 15:50 ornoterm1s has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2014-02-21 15:53 ornotermes has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 15:58 ornoterm1s has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 15:59 ornotermes has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2014-02-21 16:01 thanks to all the ESD in the lab I don't even have to touch the reset button anymore to reset the board 2014-02-21 16:08 wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 16:15 arielenter has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 17:11 pcercuei_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2014-02-21 17:11 dos11 has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 17:26 arielenter has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2014-02-21 17:26 arielenter has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 17:39 dos11 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2014-02-21 17:39 WielkiTost has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 18:09 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 18:44 larsc: ask them to open a lab in buenos aires. more than enough relative humidity to never have to worry about ESD ;-) 2014-02-21 19:07 I asked to be transferred to austraila for the winter months here in germany 2014-02-21 19:07 that request got declined 2014-02-21 19:07 not sure if bunenos aires will work 2014-02-21 19:20 it's much closer than .au :) 2014-02-21 19:20 or maybe brazil. rio also has a nice and humid climate :) 2014-02-21 19:21 rz2k has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 19:26 I'd totally go to Buenos Aires 2014-02-21 19:29 the problem is to get approval 2014-02-21 19:29 quit your job ;) 2014-02-21 19:29 pcercuei: any hand to kick to get the KK out would be welcome ;-) 2014-02-21 19:29 KK? 2014-02-21 19:32 Kirchneristas, affectionally called KK, pronounced ka-ka, ... 2014-02-21 19:33 it's a political party? 2014-02-21 19:34 anyway. off to get a beer :p 2014-02-21 19:34 or eight 2014-02-21 19:34 * pcercuei afk 2014-02-21 19:51 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 21:29 WielkiTost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2014-02-21 21:29 WielkiTost has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 21:30 WielkiTost has quit [Client Quit] 2014-02-21 21:30 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 21:34 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2014-02-21 21:40 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2014-02-21 21:45 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2014-02-21 23:53 arielenter has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2014-02-21 23:53 arielenter1 has joined #qi-hardware