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2013-12-14 00:16 <nicksydney> wpwrak: going to experiment with different paper and also ironing time to see if i can have better success...wish me luck :0
2013-12-14 00:18 <wpwrak> luck ! :)
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2013-12-14 08:57 <larsc_> apelete: the patch is upstream now
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2013-12-14 10:20 <apelete> larsc_: you submitted it recently ? doesn't show up in the upstream tree nor in lkml
2013-12-14 10:34 <apelete> larsc_: found it -> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2013-December/069720.html
2013-12-14 10:36 <apelete> thanks for pushing it upstream, without it building the kernel for the nanonote fails
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2013-12-14 11:06 <wpwrak> hmm, the drawback of living in a tall building: if electricity fails for the elevators, going down to get groceries gets kinda inconvenient.
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2013-12-14 11:49 <whitequark> drawback of living: it's kinda inconvenient :p
2013-12-14 11:49 <wpwrak> ah, i forgot: russian winter :)
2013-12-14 11:50 <wpwrak> and there's only so far the spirits can lift the spirits ...
2013-12-14 11:53 <wpwrak> ah no, "... can lift the spirit"
2013-12-14 11:53 <whitequark> heh
2013-12-14 11:54 <wpwrak> still short of my morning caffeine dose
2013-12-14 11:54 <whitequark> upside of global warming: it'll be warmer in moscow
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2013-12-14 11:55 <whitequark> downside of global warning: I'd rather have a nice city above the water
2013-12-14 11:55 <wpwrak> ah yes, it kinda sucks when the permafrost thaws, doesn't it ? :)
2013-12-14 11:57 <wpwrak> recently found this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salekhard%E2%80%93Igarka_Railway
2013-12-14 11:57 <wpwrak> interestingly, the article in the german wikipedia is a bit more detailed: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarkreiseisenbahn
2013-12-14 11:58 <wpwrak> and then we have of course this: http://www.stalinbahn-trilogie.de/
2013-12-14 11:59 <wpwrak> this is kinda cute, too: http://englishrussia.com/2007/08/22/stalins-lost-railway/
2013-12-14 11:59 <whitequark> huh
2013-12-14 12:00 <wpwrak> actually, the pictures look like the average railroad in argentina
2013-12-14 12:01 <wpwrak> a few days ago, a train derailed some 100 m before the major train station i have right next door. it reportedly went at the blazing speed of 5 km/h at the time ...
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2013-12-14 12:03 <wpwrak> oh, i see one inching into the station right now
2013-12-14 12:03 <wpwrak> if i keep very still, i can actually see it move :)
2013-12-14 12:05 <whitequark> I always wondered, why do you live in argentina?
2013-12-14 12:06 <wpwrak> good meat and wine ;-)
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2013-12-14 12:06 <whitequark> that's an excellent answer :p
2013-12-14 12:06 <wpwrak> weather is also nice most of the time. and i have a car. no need to risk my life on the train.
2013-12-14 12:11 <wpwrak> the trains may now be going so slow because of another accident a couple of months ago. last year, we had the big one with > 50 people dead: http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromargentina/dozens-of-people-dead-from-once-train-crash/
2013-12-14 12:12 <wpwrak> that one crashed into a completely jammed bumper. so the train didn't look all that badly damaged afterwards, but it had telescoped since all the kinetic energy was absorbed by the train itself
2013-12-14 12:12 <wpwrak> now let me find some pictures of the october 2013 crash ...
2013-12-14 12:13 <wpwrak> http://www.infobae.com/2013/10/19/1517276-otro-accidente-el-sarmiento-choco-un-tren-la-estacion-once
2013-12-14 12:15 <wpwrak> and here are some videos: http://tn.com.ar/sociedad/asi-fue-el-choque-del-tren-Sarmiento-en-once_416784
2013-12-14 12:17 <wpwrak> this time the bumper did its job. the train was actually going quite fast (20 km/h or maybe a bit faster), too fast for the bumper to stop it properly. so it climbed up on the platform. luckily, nobody was in its path at the time.
2013-12-14 12:18 <wpwrak> here's a picture of the bumper they had installed in 2013: http://www.clarin.com/ciudades/Choque-tren-Afirman-paragolpes-podido-detener-Once_0_1018698237.html
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2013-12-14 12:23 <viric> wpwrak: I don't think they will increase much security measures, as long as train is "safer than cars", by some statistics.
2013-12-14 12:24 <wpwrak> naw, there's a lot of public pressure now. the train network is in a horrible state.
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2013-12-14 12:25 <wpwrak> in fact, i've read that on this line, most people travel gratis because the government doesn't dare to enforce ticket controls
2013-12-14 12:27 <viric> ah
2013-12-14 12:27 <wpwrak> it's one of the major commuter lines that bring people from the metropolitan area into the city. so there's quite a lot of people on it. that's also why the 2012 crash was so deadly - the train was already bursting with people, so even a relatively small amount of compression did a lot of damage
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2013-12-14 13:03 <wpwrak> grmbl. still no power in the service sector. that's not only the elevators but also the water pump. well, if i'm lucky, the main pump is still working, so we have water but with low pressure. that's not a big problem. means i can't have a shower in my main bathroom but i have another one where the pressure is sufficient.
2013-12-14 13:05 <wpwrak> it's too low for the heater to engage, so the water will be "cold". but of course, with an ambient temperature above 30 C, that's not really an inconvenience :)
2013-12-14 13:08 <whitequark> http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3493623/munich-declares-switch-open-source-successfully-completed/
2013-12-14 13:10 <wpwrak> a loong journey. i think i heard of their project already before 2000. but it's good that they saw it through.
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2013-12-14 15:02 <wpwrak> i've got the power (back) ! :)
2013-12-14 15:03 <wpwrak> whitequark: hmm, your IRC logs aren't easily downloadable, are they ? with the transition of #m-labs, we'll lose the milkymist IRC statistics
2013-12-14 15:13 <whitequark> wpwrak: I can write an API for you to download them in whatever format you want
2013-12-14 15:13 <whitequark> won't take much time
2013-12-14 15:15 <wpwrak> how do you store them ? plain text log ?
2013-12-14 15:16 <whitequark> wpwrak: mysql
2013-12-14 15:16 <whitequark> I wanted full-text search and I wanted it to be fast
2013-12-14 15:17 <whitequark> (though in retrospect I should have used postgres. I'll migrate to it one day.)
2013-12-14 15:19 <wpwrak> bah, nothing faster than plain text :) well, if you could dump is in a log-like format by month, that would be ideal. e.g., http://irclog.whitequark.org/m-labs/2013-12.txt
2013-12-14 15:20 <whitequark> wpwrak: indexes :p
2013-12-14 15:20 <wpwrak> doesn't need anything fancy since all i do is compress is to see how much information is really in there
2013-12-14 15:20 <whitequark> (log-like) can you be more specific?
2013-12-14 15:20 <whitequark> hm
2013-12-14 15:21 <wpwrak> maybe use whatever format you'd use if you wanted to print it
2013-12-14 15:21 <whitequark> so 2013-13-13 13:13 <username> message
2013-12-14 15:21 <wpwrak> perfect
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2013-12-14 15:50 <whitequark> wpwrak: http://irclog.whitequark.org/m-labs/2013-12.txt
2013-12-14 15:50 <whitequark> and http://irclog.whitequark.org/m-labs/2013-12-11.txt also works
2013-12-14 16:09 <wpwrak> perfect. thanks a lot !
2013-12-14 16:17 <pcercuei> is there a way to log a kernel panic?
2013-12-14 16:19 <whitequark> pcercuei: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe
2013-12-14 16:25 <pcercuei> ugh
2013-12-14 16:25 <pcercuei> looks difficult
2013-12-14 16:25 <wpwrak> serial console ?
2013-12-14 16:26 <pcercuei> I don't have one :(
2013-12-14 16:27 <pcercuei> oh well, I believe I can try on a device that has one
2013-12-14 16:28 <whitequark> maybe you can make the kernel write to a fixed memory area, and then tell it to not use that area otherwise
2013-12-14 16:28 <pcercuei> the kernel panic I'm hunting is in gpio-keys so it's not very hardware-specific
2013-12-14 16:28 <whitequark> I think there's a combination of options that would do that
2013-12-14 16:28 <whitequark> then you could use dd if=/dev/mem
2013-12-14 16:28 <wpwrak> whitequark: and pray that the BIOS won't erase that memory for you ...
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2013-12-14 16:28 <whitequark> wpwrak: they don't really erase entire RAM anymore
2013-12-14 16:29 <whitequark> for a long time
2013-12-14 16:29 <whitequark> and definitely not on a warm boot
2013-12-14 16:29 <whitequark> I mean, it's at least worth a try.
2013-12-14 16:29 <wpwrak> dunno. too many did back when i tried that. but that was < 2000 :)
2013-12-14 16:29 * whitequark nods
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2013-12-14 18:48 <wpwrak> dos1: whoa ! neo900 *jumped* over the 50kEUR mark. congratulations !
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2013-12-14 20:20 <wpwrak> and another power loss ...  this summer promises to be fun
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2013-12-14 20:34 <wpwrak> nicksydney_: how did the ironing go ? the morning sun must be rising over sydney now. that's usually the time when the "quick project" you started the day before begins to work :)
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2013-12-14 22:07 <nicksydney_> wpwrak: morning....just got up .... the ironing didn't go well....i bought different kind of papers from art shop also and also few plastic-y kind of paper but no luck
2013-12-14 22:08 <nicksydney_> wpwrak: i have a feeling that it's the copper board as i was reusing the same part of the board...
2013-12-14 22:08 <nicksydney_> wpwrak: does acetone makes it harder for the toner to stick ?
2013-12-14 22:09 <nicksydney_> wpwrak: applied acetone 4 different times to remove the toner to reuse it
2013-12-14 22:22 <wpwrak> did you also scrub it again with steel wool after removing the toner ?
2013-12-14 22:23 <wpwrak> (just made a little adapter board. if it hadn't forgotten one little - easy to fix - trace, it would have been flawless :)
2013-12-14 22:38 <wpwrak> hmm, the pen-eating monster seems to have switched its taste to USB cables. there should be half a ton of them in my lab. yet it's hard to find even one ...
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2013-12-14 23:15 <nicksydney> no i did not and i think that is the mistake
2013-12-14 23:15 <nicksydney> going to try again today and see how it goes
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